Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Chaos, Crisis & Terror Serves Islamic Iran

As the Islamic Revolution completed its third decade, it would not be too difficult to realize the reality and the fruits of its mismanagement during its imperial and revolutionary eras. Throughout the three decades of its existence, the Islamic Republic has managed, notably, to produce more hunger, extreme frustration and anger, prostitution at a record pace, drug addiction beyond control, child execution without any regard to the international human rights bylaws. There are many reports regarding cases of child sexual abuse and molestation reaching epidemic proportions. Prosecution and imprisonment of the innocent people and systematic and illegal abuse of detainees and hundreds of gruesome acts have also been reported.
The genocidal Islamists have been doing all they can to completely wipe out the Baha’is in Iran as well as everywhere else in the world that their blood-drenched hand can reach. The Islamic government condones and promotes every measure of oppression against the Baha'is. The Islamists don’t even spare the dead. They bulldoze and even uproot the trees in Baha’is cemeteries.  Harassment of other religious minorities is prevalent and torturing innocent people beyond recognition is part of their modus operandi. They routinely hang dissidents and amputate the limbs of anyone for petty theft. They are responsible for the unmitigated poverty in the oil-rich country, sex slaves in the Persian Gulf region and the raping of children as young as 2 years of age.  Here is the Amnesty International report published in February 2009.

The Islamic Republic also has started a nuclear program, not for peaceful purposes, as they claim, but only to prolong their unwanted existence long enough to get their hands on the bomb so that they can feel invincible and continue their control over the armless Iranian people and ultimately export their version of Shi’a Islam and terrorism around the globe.

What is the likelihood that the ruling Mullahs will actually use their new toy? If they remain in power long enough to have it, they are very likely to use it, in one form or another. At the very least, they will use the bomb for blackmail and intimidation in the region. Not even the all-out nuclear exchange can be ruled out. Islam is a religion centered on death with the faithful eyes fixed on the afterlife and its promised eternal pleasures. If the faithful kills, he goes to Allah’s paradise; if he gets killed, he goes to Allah’s paradise. An urgent warning to the people of the world: stop the Islamic Republic nuclear program now, or face eradication from the face of the earth and I am not in any mood to make you laugh.

What does the Islamic Republic do to cover up its crimes against humanity? They immediately create chaos and crisis. In other words, they create smoke and mirrors and push the dust under the rug again as they did when the Islamists took the American diplomats as hostages for 444 days and during Iran and Iraq war and recent Israeli war with Hamas. Ironically, the first victims of the chaos and crises doctrine have always been the Iranian people. They are trying to distract the world from their nuclear intention as they did during the Gaza crisis. They took the attention away from their nuclear program.

Since its inception, the regime has stigmatized, victimized and murdered people without any due process of law.  They particularly go after the writers, poets and artists to harass. The first Islamic Revolutionary Judge, Sheik Sadegh Khalkhali, an infamous psychopath, did not hesitate to demand the execution of intellectuals such as Ahmad Shamlou, a famous Iranian author who was well-known for his non-adherence to any political party and his non-involvement in any political activity. Khalkhali was responsible for many arbitrary executions. According to Judge Abdolkarim Ardibili, former President of the Supreme Court, many defense lawyers were arrested, imprisoned and in at least one case, executed.

Currently, the regime, on the slightest suspicion will arrest, convict and execute. Few people would deny any longer that Islam and its variants mean, in practice, bloody terrorism, deadly purges, lethal actions, forced ‘hijabs,”  show trials and genocide. It is a widespread plague upon humanity. It is disguised as religion and has penetrated our democracies with the aim of replacing civility and liberty with the barbarism of theocracy and Sharia. Islam’s multi-prong attack aims to destroy all that liberty offers.

On September 19, 1981, in an address broadcasted on radio and television, Ayatollah Moussavi, the Revolutionary Procurator General, stated, “to kill the people who stand against this regime and its just Imam (Khomeini) is a prescribed duty according to Islamic laws. If they are captured, our men will not let them eat and sleep for a few months. The trial of these people is in the streets. I also order the city prosecutors to do the same; otherwise they themselves will be punished” reported by Ghiam newspaper, Tehran, June 28, 1981. The flair for hanging has not stopped since then, in fact, it has immensely increased.

The Mullahs presently ruling Iran are faced with monumental threats. Internally, the great majority of the populace is against their misrule. Labor unions, teachers associations, student groups, religious and ethnic minorities, journalists and many others have suffered and continue to suffer inordinate hardship under the heavy-handed Mullahs and their front men. Externally, they are engaged in brinksmanship with the United States and Israel, while trying to wrestle the mantle of Islamic leadership from the Sunni Saudis and their Wahhabi cabal and President Obama intends to negotiate with these criminals rather than the legitimate owners of the country, the Iranian people. He will also fail miserably as did his four predecessors.

The Islamist apologists call me all kinds of unspeakable names. That's all they can do, since they are unable to hang me from high cranes at public squares as they do so to everyone, even teenagers. These mullahs -- that includes the non-turbaned creatures working as the akhoond's front men and pawns--are agents of destruction and death. They have a ball plundering Iran and are looking forward to their rewards in Allah's paradise for their dastardly acts here on earth. As they see it, it is a win-win proposition for them.

Sadly, a large number of Iranians are hoodwinked into supporting these leeches and believing in their pie-in-the-sky promises. It is time for Muslims to wake up and toss this ideology of destruction and death out of office before we all are vanished.

Centuries ago, a group of newly converted Muslim savages from the Arabian Peninsula, ravaged my mother country, the present Iran, a cradle of civilization, the land of Cyrus the Great— the first author of the Human Rights Charter—. The upstanding Iranian people who lived by the Great Zoroaster’s triad of Goodly Thoughts, Goodly Speech, and Goodly Deeds stood no chance against the Muslim beasts who had been promised by Muhammad: if you kill, or you get killed, either way you will be admitted to Allah’s gloriously lush paradise for eternity in compensation. This pie-in-the-sky paradise of Allah, Muhammad intimated, includes among other things, rivers of milk and honey as well as 72 virgins for every male.

The invasion of my country was only the start of the tenacious scourge of Islam. Slaughtering people by hundreds of thousands at the time left the remainder of the Iranians little choice but to convert to the creed of this cult of violence. Choiceless millions converted to Islam and a few hundred thousand brave souls circled the wagon, so to speak, and held firm to their creed of light—the Zoroastrian faith. For centuries, the Zoroastrians paid heavily in all manner of ways under the rule of the converted Muslims; many were forced to leave for other lands such as India, while others were driven out of their habitats to marginal parts of the land.

Yet, all along, many Iranians revered the religion of their ancestors and resented the Arab-imposed creed. Nonetheless, the virus of Islam had taken deep roots. As a result, a compromise evolved. The overwhelming majority of the Iranians, who had become some sort of generic Muslims, parted company with the original line of Sunni-Caliphate and adopted Shiism. The tragic history of Shiism appealed to the Iranians who felt great affinity, consciously or unconsciously, with the tragic suffering of the Imamate line at the hand of the mainstream Sunni Muslims.

Switching allegiance from one sect of the cult of death to another did little more than provide a venting opportunity to the victimized Iranians. They could not find it in themselves to get rid of the Islamic virus while it offered them a degree of relief, enabling them to vilify the mainstream Sunnis for inflicting them with the Islamic disease in the first place.

Fourteen hundred years of suffering is far too long for any people, although the Jews hold the record for that misfortune. The Jews have at long last returned to their homeland even though they are still encircled by the vicious Arab Islamists who would like nothing better than to drown every last one of them in the sea, similar to the way the Islamists forced our Zoroastrian people out of the country or the remaining few to the edges of the inhospitable desert.

With the passage of time, blaming the historical foreign invaders for our sorry plight failed as explanation. Re-playing the long-ago tragic drama of the Imams’ sufferings did little more than supply a superficial psychological relief. Real new enemy-making was in order to keep the victimization mentality alive and prevent the people from self-examination and finding the true culprit for their misery.

Sadly, the victimization mentality seems to have become an irreversible disease of our people, the Iranians. We have become a nation of easy answers. We ascribe blame liberally and do very little deep soul-searching. It is heartwarming to see that new flowers are blossoming in Iran. The new generation in Iran wants to distance itself from the Islamic butchers and embrace the ancient creed of Zoroasterism or other religions or with no religion at all. They are beginning to feel and accept the fact that blaming others hasn’t done much to address our problems, just creating straw men to knock down.

Most Iranians, whose voices are not allowed to be heard in the West, have strongly condemned the blatant innumerable comments by the selected  buffoon, the President Ahmadinejad calling for the destruction of the only democratic nation in the middle east, the State of Israel. The Islamic Republic of Iran’s President’s repeated threat to wipe out Israel from the map is ignored by some as an empty rhetoric of an unhinged fanatic. Yet, Ahmadinejad’s threats are far from the baseless saber-rattling of a zealot.

Ahmadinejad’s government has recently ordered the comprehensive gathering of data regarding the Baha’is and all their activities. This order is deeply troubling, since it is almost a replica of what another fascist, Hitler, did before launching the genocide of six million Jews and some four million other “undesirables”. Ahmadinejad is an Islamofascist whose aim is to have a practice run on the Iranian Baha’is before embarking on destroying the Jews and other “undesirables,” following in the footsteps of the German fuehrer.  

Political correctness is the normal tongue of politicians. However, what is coming from the Islamic regime in Iran is an aculeate tongue from a self-appointed group of vigilantes imposing their views on others. Ahmadinejad, the ultra-conservative President of the Islamic Republic, after all, is a known former hostage taker, an assassin, and he has eliminated all his opponents and proven his loyalty to the Ayatollah Khamenei. Perhaps that is why Ayatollah Khamenei has selected him to his post. Ahmadinejad served in the ranks of the Revolutionary Guards during the 1980-1988 war with Iraq. He has also appointed fellow Revolutionary Guards’ members to the most key positions in his cabinet.

Inside the Revolutionary Guards, there exists an elite group called "Qods (Jerusalem) Force". Its mission is military operations (including terrorism) far beyond the boundaries of Iran. At the time, Ahmadinejad was a senior commander in the Quds Force. According to Al Sharq Al-Awsat, elements of the Qods Force have led operations against coalition forces in Iraq; other sources even contend that the Qods Force provided logistical help to the Zarqawi network of terror in the past.

During the recent Israeli war with terrorist Hamas, the Islamic Republic went through a panic mode again. They could not stand and watch the loss of one of their investments in the Israelis’ backyard, the Hamas terrorist group. What do they do, they create chaos and crises. They declared cyber war on Israel. They instigated a false crisis to bring the Arab world into the conflict and threatened them with retribution if they did not act. They offered a two million dollar bounty for President of Egypt, Husni Mobarak for not helping the Palestinians in the Gaza. They claimed 70,000 Iranian Basijis volunteered to carry out suicide bombings in Israel.

Ironically, a Persian reformist newspaper (Roozonline) accused Ahmadinejad’s government of using the Palestinian problem 'as weapon' against reformist bodies after he shut down a newspaper accused of reporting misinformation about Palestinian fighters in Gaza.  An Iranian newspaper (Kargozaran), which defended Israel  for protecting its citizens against the barrage of mortar attacks by Hamas terrorists, was banned for portraying the Palestinian resistance as terrorists who cause the deaths of children and civilians by taking up positions in kindergartens and hospitals.

All this acrobatic propaganda by the Islamists in Iran were symbolic and did nothing to help the Hamas thugs, but only caused more anguish and death on the Iranian part. The Islamic Republic has been living on a chaos, crises and terror doctrine for 30 years. Without it, it would have been disappeared long ago.

Since coming to power 30 years ago, the founder of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Khomeini set the stage for absolute power through creating chaos and crisis. Chaos and crises have emerged as the new policy of the Islamic Republic. Khomeini was able to get the support of the poor and the bazaar merchants opposed to the shah, peasants, riffraff and uneducated mobs who called themselves students.

At the beginning of the revolution, while Iranian people were getting ready to obliterate Khomeini and his Islamic gang of terrorists, the American hostage crisis and 444 days captivity took place. This was a much-needed crisis for Khomeini and his gang to suppress the Iranian people’s aspirations for greater freedom, while challenging the “Great Satan”, which helped to solidify their position among the poor and most Muslim countries.   

This chaos, crises and terror escalated for eight more years as the Iraqis launched a surprise attack on Iran. As President select Ahmadinejad himself stated, this war was a blessing from God. This crucial eight-year war with Iraq allowed the Islamic Republic to take shape while continuing fabrications, lies, harassment, arrests, murders and intimidation of the Iranian people. If Saddam had not attacked Iran, more than likely, the Islamic regime would have been collapsed at its early stages. After all, people did not revolt so that they could have a tyrannical Islamic cult to rule over them.   

After the war, the Islamic Republic continued its brutal purges, killing anyone perceived as opponent. The tyrannical and brutal regime imposed and forced millions of Iranians to run away from their homeland. The war left behind hundreds of thousands of Iranians dead or homeless. Now, the Islamic Republic needed another reason for chaos and crises to continue its mission of creating an Islamic nation. What better choice other than diverting the attention to the most detested nation in the heart of the Arab world, the State of Israel which has been involved in a conflict with the Palestinians for half a century!   

When the revolution went sour and its children grew up, the Khomeini’s dream of making Iran a pure form of an Islamic nation collapsed. It simply backfired on the Islamists. The crown jewel of Islam simply did not fit the Persians. It never did and it never will. The vast majority of the population had already written them off, but the regime refuses to leave peacefully. Again, anytime they were on the verge of extinction, they created new or renewed chaos and crises.  

In exile in the Iraqi holy city of Najaf, Khomeini published a collection of essays called - an Islamic government - (Velayat-e faqhi). This book had gone completely unnoticed by the general population. Ayatollah Khomeini was a harsh and brutal tyrant. His mission was to purge pre-Islamic vestiges and to create a true Islamic nation, something his heir Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and his loyal disciple President Ahmadinejad have been dreaming about it.

With the selection of Mohammad Khatami, (the darling of the West), in August 1997 as the Islamic president, the world and especially the European countries immediately turned to appeasement policy, ignoring all the warning signs by the Iranian patriots and opposition groups. This alone gave the Islamic regime eight more precious years to secretly research and develop their Islamic bomb. The regime has emptied out the wealth of the nation in a hurry to develop the most devastating bomb, the nuclear bomb and the missiles to deliver them.  
 
Ironically, history is bound to repeat itself. Once again, the West is looking forward to have (their darling) Khatami back as a “moderate” Islamic Republic president and prolong more time to develop its nuclear ambition. We must not forget that it was during this smiling Mullah’s Presidency, the rule of law was flaunted blatantly from day one. Thousands of dissident students, intellectuals and journalists were systematically arrested, imprisoned and tortured for the sole crime of speaking up against the repressive rule of the mullahs. Many are still languishing in prisons, some have died, and some have simply vanished with no records of what happened to them. Are you listening? Do you care?

During this turbaned fascist’s watch, many students’ lives were extinguished for daring to express their opposition to the stone-age regime. Shamelessly, during the July 9, 1999 students’ demonstration, for instance, this man called the Tehran University students “A bunch of hooligans,” while his storm-trooper hooligans, with police support, brutally attacked students in their dormitories throwing some students out of the windows of the dorm’s third floor. Later, he is welcomed at Harvard University to lecture its “hooligans” and faculty on practicing tolerance.

Prisoners of conscience were routinely tortured to extract confessions about the crimes they did not commit. Some of the victims were permanently incapacitated while others died under the brutal torture. Women prisoners were often subjected to even greater indignities than men by being raped before being executed, under the cover of marriage. A prison mullah performed the forced marriage ceremony to make it conform to the Islamic ethos.

Support for terrorism constituted a high priority. It extended not only to the neighboring countries, but also as far away as Latin America. Hezbollah in Lebanon was nurtured with funds, weapons and training. Hamas and the Islamic Jihad were assisted in numerous ways, and a professional army of Shiite Iraqis was trained and armed to be used in the present Iraqi theatre. Separately, Muqtada al-Sadr and his militia thugs—the Mahdi Army—is directly funded, armed and controlled by the present Islamic regime, a gift of the smiling Mullah to his successor—the rabid Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

In his devious attempt to lull the world into a false sense of security, the smiling Mullah floated the notion of “Dialogue of Civilization,” to appear as a man of reason who is willing to reconcile the differences between and among various civilizations through dialogue. This clever ploy was exposed as nothing more than an Islamofascist propaganda tool. In actuality, his side’s dialogue proved to be a diatribe against civilization.

"...to the Iranian people, I say tonight: As you stand for your own liberty, America stands with you." — President Bush, in the State of the Union Address

For 8 years, President Bush promised the Iranian people that America would support them in their struggle for freedom, but did he? The Iranian people stood up firmly only to be hanged by the Islamic Republic executioners. Can President Obama outdo President Bush’s rhetoric, or does he really believe in his motto “Change - Yes We Can?”

It would be wise and expedient for the community of nations and the newly elected President of the United States to show solidarity with the Iranian people and to implement maximum pressure against the illegitimate body of government calling itself the Islamic Republic of Iran to listen to the will of its citizens. The Islamic Republic hijackers must be forced to bow to the will of the Iranian people or there must be some sort of consequences.

There must not be, however, any compromise, any negotiation or any deals with the Islamists in Iran before making sure that the Iranian people are part of the equation. The era of mass politics, propaganda, nebulous sloganeering and magical solutions are over. It’s a do or die scenario for the Iranian people or perhaps for the people of the world. The Iranian people want nothing less than a complete regime change through the democratic process of a free referendum. We believe it is the surest, safest and the fastest way to achieve a democratic Iran and end the world’s nightmare of nuclear holocaust that is currently facing us all

 


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Amil Imani is an Iranian born, pro-democracy activist who resides in the United States of America. He is a poet, writer, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. Amil Imani's Home Page: www.amilimani.com.


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Name: Take up arms
Date: Wednesday February 18, 2009
Time: 00:55:07 -0500

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The Iranian people should take up arms and overthrow the Islamic regime of Iran. Revolution is justified if the ruling elite is tyrannical.


Name: i am so saddened same thing happening in india govt hate hindus and love taliban
Date: Wednesday February 18, 2009
Time: 01:50:03 -0500

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i am so saddened same thing happening in india govt hate hindus and love taliban


Name: vbv
Date: Wednesday February 18, 2009
Time: 06:14:05 -0500

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It is very tragic that a great civilisation has abjectly surrendered to arabian barbarism and is unable to free itself from the scourge of an evil cult. Shah of Iran is to be blamed squarely for this inextricable mess that iranians find themselves in, and this Shah was a favourite of the USA. The USA is the cause for the rise of terrorism everywhere. They used the very same 'jihadis' in Afghanistan with the connivance of Pakistan in the 1980s to overthrow Soviet occupation by arming and training these criminals and thugs , Evil habits never die and they bite the hands that nurtured them. Pakistan ,in the meantime , had diverted a lot of money and weapons to the terrorists gunning for India. Look at the mess: they created the Taliban and now are the mercy of the Talibans themselves. Almost half the Pakistan is under the influence or control of the Taliban and soon will take over Pakistan and Afghanistan. We in India will have the Taliban at our doorsteps. The root cause of all this is the USA and their foul 'foreign ' policy. If the Taliban assumes control over Pakistan the nuclear arsenal will be at its disposal to blackmail and make USA and other western countries submit to its diktats. I am sure that not only India but also Iran wil be among its first targets. Not that they will succeed against India, for we can also nuke them into extinction, should they try their mad antics. But what about 'shia' dominated Iran? That is something to ponder upon seriously.


Name: Do to Islamists what they say they will do to non-Muslims
Date: Wednesday February 18, 2009
Time: 08:14:02 -0500

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We read about Islamists and Muslims over the years destroying non-Muslim culture, killing non-Muslims etc. The point is that Muslims won't fight non-Muslims when they are few in number or from a point of weakness. So the best way for non-Muslims to stop the spread of Islamism is to destroy mosques that advocate violence, stop humanitarian aids to Islamic countries etc. From the point of strength, they should destroy Islamists completely and totally. Unfortunately, editors in many website accuse people of doing to Islamists what they do to non-Muslims as inciting hatred. They must as well close down their website!!!!


Name: you should fight like lenin
Date: Wednesday February 18, 2009
Time: 11:02:13 -0500

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you should fight like lenin and subash chandra bose.your operation should not be like "opeartion success but patient died"why are still silent ?


Name: To some Super Idiot (vbv)
Date: Wednesday February 18, 2009
Time: 11:42:21 -0500

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--"The USA is the cause for the rise of terrorism everywhere."----" If the Taliban assumes control over Pakistan the nuclear arsenal will be at its disposal to blackmail and make USA and other western countries submit to its diktats."--What a contradictory and faulty viewpoint! How about the Islamic agenda of world domination? Is the US has anything to do with it? Is it moronic intellect?


Name: G.Ryan
Date: Wednesday February 18, 2009
Time: 13:24:57 -0500

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to vbv, you are a decent bloke at heart, but alas still wrong. you say everything is the west's fault. when the muslims invaded india, indonesia, malaysia, afganistan and numerous other countries, east and west, america did'nt even exist! we in the west have done some terrible things, but islam wants your whole way of life and afterlife. we are your allies!


Name: vbv
Date: Thursday February 19, 2009
Time: 01:37:15 -0500

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To the super idiot and moron: I am not contradicting anything you double-distilled moronic idiot. The USA wants to act like a super cop but comes out with a rotten egg on its face. Look at the the socalled WMD caper in Iraq , all a subterfuge to rob its oilwealth. Isn't that foul and rotten. The USA was paranoid about communists ,which is why they supported the mad jihadi elements in Afghanistan with CIA teaching all the "dirty" bomb making and other murderous antics . After all who was Bin Laden ? He was one of the thousands of those mad arabs instigated by the Pakistani-CIA goons. Today islamic terrorism is a globalphenomenon because of all this rotten policies of the USA who wants to be the world cop ,inspite of the thrashing they got in Vietnam , and now getting in Iraq , and probably will kick a sound kick in the ass in Afghanistan. Even Clinton conceded that Afghanistan may be Obama's Vietnam . Whereever the USA interferes it is a disaster. They do not have the guts to face Iran or North Korea , as they are not depleted by the UN under the guise of "inspections' about WMD. And above all they are on the threshold of becoming nuclear powers. Look at Pakistan ,the pet of USA, it will be taken over by Taliban, the monster created by Pakistan's ISI and the CIA of the USA, can USA own up its responsibility of messing whereever it goes? No they cannot and will not, the unprincipled bastards! TRhey scatter in fear when their ass is burnt. The USA virtually ran out of Somalia when a few troops were captured ,murdered and their mutilated bodies dragged in the streets of Mogadishu in Somalia, so much for the "rambos"!So idiot yourself and get your prejudiced mind examined by a shrink.


Name: vbv
Date: Thursday February 19, 2009
Time: 01:56:07 -0500

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To G Ryan: I am not blaming the USA for the centuries of islamic barbarity and the history of muslim invasion of India. That's old history. Today's jihadi groups were spawned by the USA with Pakistan in their paronoia against the Soviets in the 1980s in Afghanistan. The Taliban and the AlQuaida were offshoots of this rotten policy. But I am questioning the USA 's super cop attitude and imposing 'democracy' where it suits them. Why not make Saudi Arabia 'democratic', or for that matter Somalia, Sudan, Burundi,Rwanda,etc.? Why just Iraq? Oil ,the second largest reserve of oil in the world and a fallen dictator with the connivance of "UN inspections" about WMD? What about WMD in Iran or North Korea? Or the human rights record of China, the biggest trading partner of the USA , getting certified 'most favoured nation year after year' while thousands of Tibetans are tortured and butchered every year! I have nothing against common yankee but certainly I detest the hypocrisy,duplicity and amorality of the american policies and sheer arrogance of the american politicians. There were great empires ,like the British,French or the Dutch in the recent past, far greater than the USA of today, but where are they today? The USA should learn from history, they cannot keep up the arrongance that was the hall-mark of the erstwhile colonial master and slave traders. I rest my case.


Name: vbv
Date: Thursday February 19, 2009
Time: 01:56:20 -0500

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To G Ryan: I am not blaming the USA for the centuries of islamic barbarity and the history of muslim invasion of India. That's old history. Today's jihadi groups were spawned by the USA with Pakistan in their paronoia against the Soviets in the 1980s in Afghanistan. The Taliban and the AlQuaida were offshoots of this rotten policy. But I am questioning the USA 's super cop attitude and imposing 'democracy' where it suits them. Why not make Saudi Arabia 'democratic', or for that matter Somalia, Sudan, Burundi,Rwanda,etc.? Why just Iraq? Oil ,the second largest reserve of oil in the world and a fallen dictator with the connivance of "UN inspections" about WMD? What about WMD in Iran or North Korea? Or the human rights record of China, the biggest trading partner of the USA , getting certified 'most favoured nation year after year' while thousands of Tibetans are tortured and butchered every year! I have nothing against common yankee but certainly I detest the hypocrisy,duplicity and amorality of the american policies and sheer arrogance of the american politicians. There were great empires ,like the British,French or the Dutch in the recent past, far greater than the USA of today, but where are they today? The USA should learn from history, they cannot keep up the arrongance that was the hall-mark of the erstwhile colonial master and slave traders. I rest my case.


Name: Silliest Viewpoint
Date: Thursday February 19, 2009
Time: 06:40:31 -0500

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--"Today islamic terrorism is a globalphenomenon because of all this rotten policies of the USA who wants to be the world cop."--This is the silliest viewpoint coming from a Super Idiot (vbv).


Name: Muslim Responses
Date: Thursday February 19, 2009
Time: 06:46:51 -0500

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http://muslim-responses.com/


Name: balam to super moron v.b.v
Date: Thursday February 19, 2009
Time: 08:27:36 -0500

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\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\your verbal vomit is un-bearable.Please do think before you write.Mohammad was the Anti-Christ and the Muslims are basically Anti-Christian in any shape or form.The Hindus should never forget that if it was not for Britain,India would still be ruled by Muslims and v.b.v would be facing Mecca and praying to moon god Allah five times a day with circumcised penis.


Name: to the one that keeps put "muslim repsonse"
Date: Thursday February 19, 2009
Time: 12:53:38 -0500

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How about reading not only your "beloved koran" in a language that you can understand, read the essays in this and other website. This website and others like it are the ONES TELLING THE TRUTH. The site that you keep putting up does NOT tell the truth. I challenge you to read your holy book in a language you can understand. Read several translations, read the hadiths in a language that you can understand. And if you still agree with all you have read, may your deity help you.


Name: Walter Sieruk
Date: Thursday February 19, 2009
Time: 16:17:15 -0500

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The Islamic "Republic" of Iran is false in its name and its foundation. It is not a Republic but a ruthless dictatorship. Its also false in its foundation, in that its consttiution which is based on the Koran which has been proven to be a hoax. Further, the Islamic regime of Iran is evil for not only does it support Hezbollah and other like-minded jihadist groups, but it also because it schemes to obtain WMD. The way this regime treats its own people is proof enought that its leaders are no good.


Name: Walter Sieruk
Date: Thursday February 19, 2009
Time: 16:50:48 -0500

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Those cruel Ayatollahs, Mullahs and Imams that are in power in Iran are best described in Psalm 73:6-9 of the Bible which reads "Therefore pride is their necklace; they clothe themselves with violence. From their callous hearts comes iniquity; the evil conceits of their minds know no limits. They scoff,and speak with malice; in their arrogance they threaten opperession. Their mounths lay claim to heaven and their tongues take possession of the earth." [NIV]


Name: vbv
Date: Friday February 20, 2009
Time: 03:51:26 -0500

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To balam the extreme idiot and moron. You conveniently forget that India could not be islamised inspite of the 700 years of muslim rule. Muslims were favoured by the btritons and their population and islamisation doubled during the british rule. The british policy of divide and rule caused Pakistan. Islam and christianity are two sides of the same coin - both monotheistic,fanatic and proselytising cults wanting to claim more converts to their moronic beliefs and backwardness. Both these cults are the reasons for all the turmoil around the world ,each claiming to have the sole right about "God" and his 'heaven'. Both are intolerant and denigrate all other beliefs . Both are guilty of mass murders ,genocides and destruction of indegenous cultures. You are a christian fanatic that you refuse to see the TRUTH. Yuo are a deluded super idiot, a corpse-worshipper , a moron and the filthiest ass-hole ever. So long fucker!


Name: vbv
Date: Friday February 20, 2009
Time: 03:53:06 -0500

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To balam the extreme idiot and moron. You conveniently forget that India could not be islamised inspite of the 700 years of muslim rule. Muslims were favoured by the britons and their population and islamisation doubled during the british rule. The british policy of divide and rule caused Pakistan. Islam and christianity are two sides of the same coin - both monotheistic,fanatic and proselytising cults wanting to claim more converts to their moronic beliefs and backwardness. Both these cults are the reasons for all the turmoil around the world ,each claiming to have the sole right about "God" and his 'heaven'. Both are intolerant and denigrate all other beliefs . Both are guilty of mass murders ,genocides and destruction of indegenous cultures. You are a christian fanatic that you refuse to see the TRUTH. Yuo are a deluded super idiot, a corpse-worshipper , a moron and the filthiest ass-hole ever. So long fucker!


Name: balam to v.b.v
Date: Friday February 20, 2009
Time: 04:32:53 -0500

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Please do not call me FUCKER,because I have not FUCKED your Mother yet,otherwise you would call me Dady.You seem to have a sick mind.Get some psychiatric help,before it is too late,you hindu IMBeCILE.


Name: Truthfinder to vbv
Date: Friday February 20, 2009
Time: 13:17:16 -0500

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You Idiotic Indian Imbecile, you look at everything with paranoid eyes and find fault with the west. You even dont know who are your enemies and who are your allies. In the name of non - alignment India was always anti- America and was subservient to the Soviets. You idiots were never neutral. The benefits of this policy was reaped by Pakistan. They allied with America and was milking America ever since. Your No. 1 enemy is China and Pakistan befriended China too and cornering all benefits from China also. Look at your neighbours, you hindu dumbhead. Is there a single reliable frindly country among your neighbours? The muslim countries will never come to your aid in anything. You only liberated Bangladesh. Now what is that country doing? They are siding with Pakistan to import terrorism into India.What is Srilanka doing? They are making mincemeat of the Tamils there.Nepal is no longer a hindu kingdom and mind you, its Maoists who are in power there. Which means they will go the way of the Chinese only. So, blokehead, which country will support you , help you in an emergency.You bemoan that the Talibans are at your doorsteps. You neednt worry about the USA and Israel. They know how to safe-guard their interests, even in the face of global dis-approval.What about you? What you could do in the case of Kashmiri Pundits, Amarnath forest land etc. you hindu idiot? Bin laden has declared that after USA and Israel, their next target is India and the hindus. You think about it, dumbhead, who should be your natural allies and who are your enemies. Instead of spitting venom at the west , try to see the ground realities, you hindu sonofabitch.


Name: ceejay to vbv
Date: Friday February 20, 2009
Time: 19:14:48 -0500

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You hindu bigot! What have you got in your head, brains or cowdung? WMD was only an alibi for the US to attack Iraq. Saddam was grown oversize and defied America.Bush wanted to teach him a lesson, that's all.Your cry of world cop and all is misplaced.If Bush had enough time, he would have fixed Ahmedinejad and Assad also.But no problem, if necessary Obama will do it. Or Israel will do it at the right time.In fact, these are all in retaliation to the 9/11.See what happened to the Hamas. They were sending rockets to the Israel.They got a severe kicking in their ass.This is how nations with spine react when islamic jehadis show up their ugly face. What is going on in India. How many blasts took place in the last two years in India? What have you done, you idiotic spineless Hindu kuthe? Recently in Mumbai some 10 people from Karachi came in a boat and killed more than 200 people including 3 highly rated police officers in blasts in broad daylight.What you could do , you ugly hindu bloke? The whole world came to know that it was the Pakistanis who engineered the attack. Yet, Pakistan was vehemently denying its role and throwing back the evidence into your face. As usual, your silly politicians were fretting and fuming, what else you Indian morons could achieve. Only at the intervention of America that Pakistan has now admitted that the plot was partially hatched in Pakistan. Still they are non chalant and playing a game of hide and seek.You Indian idiots, you cannot do anything more than this.To do some thing decisively you need an iron will and a thing called ' the spine' which alas you dont have.You have got only cowdung in its place. And you are ridiculing the west.Big joke, you hindu spineless fool!


Name: vbv
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 03:41:17 -0500

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Balam you must have fucked your own mother. Look at your bible it is full of incest. Adam fucking his daughter/sister Eve, Lot fucking his two daughters, judah fucking his daughter in law,Oedipus (ofcourse from greek mythology) fucking his own mother or Electra getting fucked by her own father,.... the list is endless, including a whiteman recently in the news fucking his own daughter and begetting bastards... Hahahahahahahaha! So long you rotten corpse worshipping immoral bastards!


Name: vbv
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 04:13:02 -0500

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To Truthfinder: sonofabitch yourself. You christian sonofabitch. 9/11 perpetrators are from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, you idiot,not from Iraq or Afghanistan. Iraq was in no way connected with 9/11 ,you idiot. Bush and Cheney ventured into Iraq to rob them of their oil(petroleum) as both had substantial interests in the US oil companies. Those bastards swindled with oil prices crossing $100 per barrel, you double distilled idiot! Once that rotten corrupt coterie of Bush and co left the price of oil is hovering around $40, you blind idiot. Bush and co were brave to attack Iraq and Afghanistan because they are the poorest country, most ill-equiped to retaliate. Yet , have they succeeded even after 7 years with 300,000 US troops in Iraq and another 70,000 in Afghanistan with all the fire power, weaponry and sophisticated equipments as against the local population who are impoverished and in a state of greater misery under the rule of American puppets? They have failed miserably. After all these years the American politicians are only thinking of getting out of Iraq without losing their face, like in Vietnam they lost their face, these arrogant bastards! Even in Afghanistan it is India that is helping them build their infrastructure like roads, hospitals ,etc. Indian doctors and technicians are working amidst the local people today , not some christian missionery or mad american evangelist going their to convert the people to corpse-worshipping fraudulently. Can the USA face Saudi Arabia and Pakistan who are the main people spawning terrorists worldwide? They cannot, the US economic interests in Saudi Arabia makes it look the other way, and Pakistan has always been US's bumchum. We in India do not look up to USA for our protection , we never did anyway. Even in the 1971 war the USA threatened India by sending their 7th fleet. Could they succeed? They had only egg on their face as India succeeded in breaking up Pakistan and creating Bangladesh! Give a mad man weapon and he uses it indiscriminately.That's USA for you the rotten country. The USA is like a mad bull spending its rage without sense or direction. But their rage is directed only when they are sure that the 'foe'is weak or weakened by fraudulent UN inspectors(like in the case of Iraq) or depleted by anarchy reigning in the country like Afghanistan. Their interest in bringing 'democracy' anywhere is farcical hypocritical. They should do so in Saudi Arabia ,their favourite country or Pakistan which is slipping away from their grips to Taliban!


Name: vbv
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 04:25:43 -0500

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to ceejay: truth is hurting you heh? Your intemperate verbal vomit is to say the least insane. What can anyone say to an imbecile with a brain of a retarded two-year old? Mind you I can also get very abusive. All I have done is expressed my opinion - I am not forcing this on anyone. However, I have the right to give it back to you as my sovereign democratic right. You may refer to my response to the so-called 'truthfinder'. My response to you is the same. I do not want to repeat the same comments to an imbecile seperately!


Name: Global Economic Recession
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 07:33:38 -0500

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--"Once that rotten corrupt coterie of Bush and co left the price of oil is hovering around $40"--Fact: The price of oil plummeted because of global economic recession. It seems some brain cells of Super Idiot (vbv) are not working properly.


Name: vbv
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 07:46:19 -0500

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To the other super idiot: the USA was already in recession when Bush was in his second term as president. It was Obama's sensible policy to lessen the dependence on oil and to look for alternative sources of energy that brought the price of oil plummeting down. If Bush were to have a third term ,the price might have even touched $200 oer barrel. So you extreme idiot, don't try to teach me economics and your dirty american politics! If technology is developed to use methane or hydrogen , then oil price may plummet further to $20-25 , then the arabs will have to go back to their old days of banditry and slave-trading.


Name: The Price of Oil
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 08:20:30 -0500

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--"We all know that oil prices are lower than they were in the recent past because supply is greater than demand."--From theoildrum.com. --"Flynn expects oil prices to eventually drop well below $30 a barrel in coming months as manufacturers cut operations and millions of laid off workers stop commuting to work."--From www.msnbc.msn.com. Super Idiot's(vbv) explanation why the price of oil is low:--"Once that rotten corrupt coterie of Bush and co left the price of oil is hovering around $40"--Hey Super Idiot (vbv) why don't you research the internet first before posting comments? It just revealed your intense hatred for everything U.S., your convenient scapegoat.


Name: vbv
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 08:41:44 -0500

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To one more extreme idiot: who ever heard of supply exceeding demand make the price of the commodity fall from $150 to $40. You mean to say that oil producing countries are selling their oil at "super losses". Any idiot will tell you that Bush administration was allowing american and western oil cartel to make huge profits at the expense of other industies, especially automobile industry.Why? Because the coterie of Bush ,Cheney(the main instigator of Iraq invasion) and others had a vested interest to make money out of it. If they had succeeded in Iraq they would have had an unchallenged monopoly over oil. So ,you extreme idiot and fanatic Bush supporter your arguement is hollow as are the western news reports which are just mouthpieces of the powers that be ,be it foxnews,CNN,BBC,msn, CBS,etc, as all these are controlled by various business interests and they can never be fair and independent. So, you extreme idiot don't give me your balderdash of western news agencies and their reliablility!


Name: To Super Idiot (vbv)
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 08:56:35 -0500

Comment

Look at theoildrum.com or type 'why the oil price is low' and search the Web you moron.


Name: High Voltage
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 09:23:38 -0500

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Words or logical reasoning is not adequate to help your mind restore to its normal sense you Super Idiot (vbv). Either you are demon-possessed and needs exorcism or a high-voltage short-duration electric shock is needed through your brain to restore it to normal function just as a heart is revived by a strong electric shock. Just a friendly advice.


Name: Truthfinder to vbv
Date: Saturday February 21, 2009
Time: 12:38:59 -0500

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The way you are insulting the west and christianity and the way of your verbal bullshitting clearly shows who you are- you are the Bloody Brahmin Bumface. You have been doing this for quite sometime now.You think that your bullshit is very effective and all christians are hurt by it.It shows that you are living in a fools' paradise. No sensible person will buy your halfbaked and unfounded allegations against christianity and the west.You conveniently forget that the fruits of democracy and the modernisation you are enjoying today is the contribution of the christian west and none else. You accuse christianity of persecution and other atrocities in the past.Of course, it might have happened during the dark age. But, remember it lasted for a few centuries only. The master killers and the deceivers called the muslims have engaged in their nefarious activities for the last 1400 years only. What about you, the bumpkin brahmins of India? You are persecuting, oppressing, suppressing, harassing, humiliating and exploiting the lower castes of the Indian society for more than 5000 years now.Even today it continues unabated in the backward areas of rural India. The reason for your bullshitting the Christians is that they are working among these poor people and try to educate and empower them. You fear that you will not get these poor people to do your dirty work any longer. You are also prejudiced against the west, particularly the USA. The use of your jargon like the 'Supercop' shows that you are an Indian communist as well. You are mouthing their rotten arguments only. In every democratic country, there is a miniscule of these rascals called communists.With the collapse of Soviet Union, the world came to know that Communism is a failed ideaology.It is obselete and redundant now.Yet some fools still beleive in it and mouth all kinds of nonsense.Unlike the communists in Europe and other countries, the Indian communists who are spread in some pockets of a few states in India, are marked by their utter lack of a love for their motherland.Even when China invaded India, these idiotic imbeciles sided with China and ridiculed India.Their another hallmark is their utter bullshitting of the USA on the lines you are performing.You are only vomitting their oft-repeated, rotten and worthless opinions. You must understand that with your misplaced and rotten criticism of USA you will not reach anywhere. The greatest threat to world peace today is Islamic terrorism and their various attempts to sabotage and destabilise many countries including India.Only USA and Israel are doing something worth while to combat this menace on the international scene. Though there are apparently some difference of opinion among the Islamist countries, they are united and work with hand in gloves in one thing - to bring the whole world under Islamic rule.Jihad is that operation. In the fight against Jihad, you can take a decision to stand with whom and where.That is why , we peace loving people advocate that we must strengthen the anti- Jihad activities of the non- muslim countries.You may not subscribe to the ' clash of civilisations ' theory propounded by Samuel p. Huntington. But there is a great deal of truism in what he opined. Think about it , you Communist Brahmin Bloke and awake to the presentday realities.


Name: vbv
Date: Sunday February 22, 2009
Time: 00:18:17 -0500

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Piqued are you? It is who have started insulting me in person > I was only expressing my view. If you get abusive , I can also pay you back in the same way. I mean the whole lot of you( balam,truthfinder,ceejay,etc..). Now you are unable to find a response you are bringing in castism - which is totally unrelated to your earlier tirades. I am not a brahmin - I am a 'pukka' non-veg lower caste hindu, and I relish,mutton,chicken,fish, prawn, crab,shrimps,etc. You can abuse the socalled 'brahmins' and I am least bothered about it. India is not brahmin, who costitute a miniscule 5 or 6% of the total population and I belong to the majority ,socalled 'backward' class , and I am an atheist ,though I am proud to be a hindu since hinduism allows atheism . After all the advaita philosophy of Sankaracharya is non-dualistic or closer to atheism as it does not perceive god as a super spook sitting on cloud 9 proclaiming 'thou shalt not this or that'. In India an atheist can live bravely without fear of being treated as an outcaste like in the christian fanatic USA. USA is ruled by evangelist christian fanatics . Bush went so far as to say that atheists cannot be patriotic americans!It is this religious fanaticism that has found common grounds with islamic fanaticism and cultivate Saudis, Pakis,etc.Americans are the bastards who helped revive and spawn islamic terrorism world wide,which otherwise was concentrated in Palestine and the middle east. Who are the friends of USA - Pakistan and Saudi Arabia ,both epicentres of islamic jihad and breeders of islamic terrorism worldwide. We are facing this scourge of islamic terrorism for the last 60 years since the creation of Pakistan, and we are successful in warding off those islamic bastards , unlike in Europe where they blackmail and make them submit to all their diktats. It will soon be the same in the USA with CAIR getting stronger and fanatic mullahs capturing the mosques there. Imagine a 1% population holding the Europeans to ransom. We in India have 150 million muslims or 15% population, the second largest muslim population in the world and we are certainly better off! Hindus can live with self-respect in their country and not be petrified about these islamic fanatics, and moreover the majority of muslims in India have good and harmonious relationship with hindus and other communities. Even zoroastrians and jews find safe haven in India where they practice their faith without fear or discrimination, for India was always a tolerant country for thousands of years , that's its culture and ethos ,not inherited from savage bigoted cults of islam ,christianity or judaism , all exclusivist and hate-mongering cults!Hahahahahahaha!


Name: vbv
Date: Sunday February 22, 2009
Time: 00:42:05 -0500

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To the 'truth finder': I am not a brahmin nor a communist. I am just an Indian . I have never voted for the communist in all my life as they are also slave to a foreign dogma. I am an Indian and I don't belong to the miniscule brahmin community which constitute 4-5% of India's population. I belong to the 'backward classes 'that is around 60% of Idia's population. So much for your 'truth-finding' ablilities! And above all ,you stupid pretender to truthfinding , I am postgraduate from an Indian University. So, don't give me the crap about getting exploited, when most of the members of parliament and the state legislatures come from non-brahmin community, be it our prime minister Manmohan Singh, Railway minister Laloo Yadav,Home Minister Chidambaram,Defence minister A.K.Anthony,etc We don't need any crocdile tears from a white man who sows the seeds of dissensions in a us to exploit us in the name of cast and creed, especially the zeal to convert us to christianity by fraudulent means by denigrating and destroying our indegenous cultures! If you want to get abusive , I can do so equally or even better. Don't pretend to know about India sitting in Europe or America and star sanctimoniously pontificating to us about 'castism' in hinduism when you white men are racist at heart and arrogant to push christianity down our throats! We will have none of this !


Name: Truthfinder to vbv
Date: Sunday February 22, 2009
Time: 13:17:56 -0500

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I am not a whiteman as you think. I am a christian of course. I am also an Indian as much as you are.You were unnecessarily bullshitting christianity with a 'holier than thou' attitude and haughtiness which is undoubtedly the trademark of the bloody brahmin bastards.If you belong to the backward class, it is well and good. My great great great grandfather also was some unknown backward class hindu, I'm sure.I also have respect for Indian culture and heritage and I simply love my country India more than any other country in the world. But that doesn't mean that I should not respond when some hindu despot runs down my religious beleifs.All religions in the world have done innumerable damage and atrocities to mankind at some point or other in history.The record of hinduism also is no different. It also had its share of pitfalls, failings and weaknesses right from the beginning till today spanning more than 5000 years. Then what is the meaning of assuming a 'holier than thou' attitude by the hindu zealots? I just cannot digest it. You may be a Post-graduate. But your viewpoint and outlook on many things are, I am afraid, faulty and needs to be corrected. For example, you view christianity and Islam as two sides of the same coin. Though both the religions emanate from west Asia,(perhaps that is the only similarity between the two) there is a world of difference between the two in content, precepts, practice etc. Space constraints forbids me to elaborate further in the matter. Only one thing I want to point out to you. You just compare the lives of Jesus Christ and the so called prophet Mohammed.If the former was an embodiment of love and compassion the latter was a warlord and a mass murderer and a looter par excellence. I came to know the complete history of Mohammed only recently, thanks to the websites like FFI, IW etc.They are doing a yeoman service in exposing Mohammed.I now know that he was the personification of all evil on earth. I think you also must have come across the real Mohammed by now.Then how can you compare these two religions? Moreover, I firmly believe that it is the christians who prevented the complete islamisation of India and reformed Hinduism and originated the Indian nationalism which grew into the mighty nation we know as India today. I would have explained further but for the space constraints. So I believe that no sensible Indian has got any right to bullshit christianity. Only those junkheads who have nothing but dry cowdung in their heads will do that. Your criticism of USA also is misplaced and stems from a paranoid perception.It rather reminds me of the Indian communist bastards who have no roots in this country. Their plank is blind anti-americanism and it is their ploy to hoodwink the muslim electorate in India and to corner their votes in the election. Day in and day out they are mouthing utter stupidity, that too against USA, as if they are the protectors of this country.They are the very same people who stabbed India from behind and served the British Government as secret agents when Gandhiji declared Quit India movement in 1942.When India got its feedom in the midnight of August 14th 1947,these bastards were observing it as ' Black day'.So much so for their love for this country. They are shedding crocodile tears for the Iraqis, for the Afghan people and for the Palestinians.But they don't have even one drop of tear for their bretheren the Kashmiri Pandits who have been uprooted in their place by the muslim fundamentalists and were forced to flee Kashmir valley and staying in refugee camps at various places in other states. What one should say about these first class first rate idiots! You are simply vomitting their vitriolic rhetoric. I only hope that you will ponder over these aspects also. Bye for now.


Name: vbv
Date: Sunday February 22, 2009
Time: 23:36:03 -0500

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To the 'Truthfinder': Are you truly an Indian ,living in India? If you are ,then you should know how tolerant all Indians are, be it hindus, muslims,christians, parsees, jews, Budhists,Jains,etc. Can you really find a mor pluralistic society anywhere in the world? And we have all lived as neighbours without hatred and rancour for centuries. What is spoiling the situation is foreign interference in our way of life. We have the Saudi/Pakistani brand of islam spreading and creating dissensions and tensions, so also foreign christian missioneries, especially the american ones who are fanatical. The Roman catholics in India are more tolerant , so also some protestants, but it is the breed of the evangelicals, the seventh day adventists and other denominations that go about spreading the poison and debunking hinduism and Indian culture. By and large people in India go about their daily lives normally and cheerfully ,despite poverty and differences, but you bring in evangelicals, wahabists, you sow the seeds of dissensions, hate and distrust. I hope you understand my perspective,now? I get abusive only when someone uses abusive language , and I retort in the same manner. I am not a brahmin , but you cannot castigate all brahmins. Rajagopalacharya , governor-genral of India after Mountbaten left was a brahmin , and you cannot find a more broadminded person than him. Castism is not only between brahmins and non-brahmins but also exists between other casts. This is so deeply entrenched in our society that it will take a long time to eradicate. Even among christians in Goa , some christians trace their origins to Goa sraswat brahmins ,when it comes to marriage, or in Tamil Nadu , you can see that in newspaper matrimonials christians claiming to be Nadar or Vallalar origins. Today even among muslims in India , they want 'reservation' for their 'scheduled caste or some backward caste converts on the same lines as hindus! Now in what way islam or christianity emancipated the converts from the castism of 'hinduism'? Even among sikhs ,castism is prevalent. Bhuta Singh, an erstwhile minister in the congress government of the 1980s was from a 'scheduled caste' or a 'dalit'! Now just blaming hindus or hinduism will be superficial and hypocritical,while castism is prevalent even among the 'converts. Castism is prevalent even among muslims in other countries. For instance, the arabs always think they are 'suprior' to other muslims, especially from South Asia or East Asia. The Iranians have not forgotten their "aryan" origins. The white european muslims are better respected than those from South Asia by the arabs. I am telling you this from confirmed sources ( some of my relatives had worked in Saudi Arabia, Dubai and Muscat).Even white christians are treated much better than Indians there. If this is not castism/racism, I wonder what else it is? So I think making castism an excuse to lambast hinduism doesn't hold water. Hinduism has given many great things , and above all freedom of thinking, not blind faith and subservience to a demonaic 'god' like the semetic faiths!


Name: Truthfinder to vbv
Date: Monday February 23, 2009
Time: 02:56:13 -0500

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I am really happy to see that you are a broadminded Indian. At the same time it seems that you have got some inhibitions and misnotions. I say this because many of your observations are not based on facts. For example, you allege that the christian evangelists are debunking hinduism and converting poor hindus to christianity on a massive scale.For your information,in the 1951 census the christians in India constituted 2.67% of the population. According to 2001 census the christian population is only 2.54%. If your allegation is true, where have all the christians gone? After 50 years, if there is only decrease instead of arithmatical or geographical increase, what is the basis of your allegation? Mind you, during the same period, the muslim population increased from a mere 10% to 15%.What you have got to say about this? In Pakistan during the same period the minority hindu population decreased from around 10% to less than 1%. It seems that without seeing these demagogical facts you are simply parrotlike repeating the lies churned around by the rascals called Viswa Hindu Parishad. These hooligans only are getting maximum foriegn money. It is no secret that the coffers of these junkheads are filled by contributions from America. What is more , these junkheads are building up palatial temples all over America just like the Muslims for whom Saudi royal family is the donor. You are priding that India is a multi-religious, multi- linguistic and a multi- racial country for centuries together and all these groups are living harmoniusly.True. But the christian west and USA particularly are fast becoming multi- religious societies. Don't forget that when you point one finger at christians, the remaining four fingers are pointed at yourselves only. The bloody VHP which vigourouly spreads hinduism in Europe and America only is accusing christians of proselytising in India. Christians have been proselytising for the last 2000 years because this has been a ritual for them and a duty. By simply quoting the VHP hypocrites, you will not achieve anything, other than showing your ugly chauvinistic mindset. In fact, hinduism is not a religion. It is a conglomerate of Indian pagan beliefs, rituals, traditions, customs et al and in a broad sense what is known as Indian culture and heritage. The words hindu and hinduism came into being in the last 1000 years or so and it was first used to distinguish it from other faiths. Of course the Sanatana Dharma or the eternal value system was there before these words were coined. The first organised religion was Budhism which took birth on Indian soil, but the bloody brahmins killed it in India, because there was no caste heirarchy in Budhism. It had to escape India to gain acceptance and popularity. The brahmins are ever since using the Indian culture or otherwise called hinduism their feifdom. The modern awakening in hinduism was spearheaded by none other than your present enemy, christianity. The christian missionaries only estalished schools in the length and breadth of India for the fist time and emancipated the hindu upper castes. You said that some of the brahmins were very broadminded, particularly Shri.C.Rajagopalachari. True. Not only Rajaji as he was affectionately called, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and his daughter Indira Gandhi, Sri. S.Radhakrishnan and so many other brahmins were there on the national scene. But, you must not forget that their broadmindedness, scholarship, erudition, statesmanship all were products of the education they received in the christian institutions in India and abroad. Even Mahatma Gandhi, how much he is indebted to education in christian institutions. The hindu reformers like Rajaram Mohan Roy, Dayananda Saraswathi, Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda, SriAurobindho Ghosh etc. also got their education from nowhere else.You can today bullshit christian missionaries. No problem. Because they are the easiest target for any scoundrel in India today. But, you must not forget this much. If India has become a great nation in the comity of world nations, their toil and their sweat also is there behind it. You needn't acknowledge or accept it. But history will remember it.


Name: A Contradiction
Date: Monday February 23, 2009
Time: 03:27:30 -0500

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--"you should know how tolerant all Indians are, be it hindus, muslims,christians, parsees, jews, Budhists,Jains,etc. Can you really find a mor pluralistic society anywhere in the world? And we have all lived as neighbours without hatred and rancour for centuries."--"...but you bring in evangelicals, wahabists, you sow the seeds of dissensions, hate and distrust."-- "Can you really find a mor pluralistic society anywhere in the world?"--"We have the Saudi/Pakistani brand of islam spreading and creating dissensions and tensions, so also foreign christian missioneries, especially the american ones who are fanatical."--


Name: True or False
Date: Monday February 23, 2009
Time: 03:39:34 -0500

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--1)"The first organised religion was Budhism which took birth on Indian soil, but the bloody brahmins killed it in India, because there was no caste heirarchy in Budhism. It had to escape India to gain acceptance and popularity."--Fact. 2)"... you should know how tolerant all Indians are."--False. If #2 (all Indians are tolerant) is true then #1 (the killing and escaped of Buddhists from India) should never have happen. Therefore the statement "all Indians are tolerant" is simply NOT TRUE.


Name: vbv
Date: Monday February 23, 2009
Time: 06:22:45 -0500

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To True or false: You are distorting Indian history. Budhism was not 'killed' by hinduism as you allege. Budhism always coexisted with hiduism as did jainism. For your information both budhism and jainism are atheistic by nature, and people are generally given to the fear of a "God" or "GODS" , hence they drifted from these two 'heretical' faiths. There was no sytematic witch-hunts and pogroms like you had in the middle ages in Europe conducted by the Christian curch. So keep your blatant lies to yourself!


Name: Doubtful
Date: Monday February 23, 2009
Time: 07:32:51 -0500

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To vbv: The whole of Pataliputhra and Kalinga (today's Bihar and Orissa) and many other parts of India including South India were under Budhism once upon a time. You can see many budhist monuments in these places even today. What happened to all those Budhists? How is that all the Budhists in Myanmar, China, Tibet, Srilanka, Thailand, Korea, Japan etc. are there today and the Budhists in India are the refugees from Tibet and the neo- Budhists ie. the self converted from hindus only? It is a historical fact that Budhism was systematically wiped out from India by the wretched brahmins. Please don't try to distort history.


Name: The Persecution of the Buddhists in India
Date: Monday February 23, 2009
Time: 09:18:54 -0500

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The Sunga dynasty (185–73 BCE) was established in 185 BCE, about 50 years after Ashoka's death. After assassinating King Brhadrata (last of the Mauryan rulers), military commander-in-chief Pusyamitra Sunga took the throne. Buddhist religious scriptures such as the Ashokavadana allege that Pusyamitra (an orthodox Brahmin) was hostile towards Buddhists and persecuted the Buddhist faith. Buddhists wrote that he "destroyed monasteries and killed Monks" [8]: 84,000 Buddhist stupas which had been built by Ashoka were "destroyed" (R. Thaper), and 100 gold coins were offered for the head of each Buddhist monk [9]. In addition, Buddhist sources allege that a large number of Buddhist monasteries (viharas) were converted to Hindu temples, in such places as Nalanda, Bodhgaya, Sarnath, or Mathura.


Name: A Lesson from History
Date: Monday February 23, 2009
Time: 09:24:09 -0500

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--"I am postgraduate from an Indian University."(???)--Here is a lesson from history for you. After about 500 CE, Buddhism showed signs of waning in India, becoming nearly extinct after about 1200 CE. This was partially due to Muslim invasions and partially due to Hinduism's revival movements such as Advaita and the rise of the bhakti movement. (Indian tolerance?)


Name: Truthfinder
Date: Monday February 23, 2009
Time: 18:49:09 -0500

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Thanks to you, dear friend, who provided unassailable proof for the persecution of Budhists in India by the vily Brahmanism( as the term hinduism was not in use then)and the eventual elimination of Budhism in this land of Sanatana Dharma. This will nail many a lie propagated by the hindu zealots that hindu religion was a very tolerant one through out its history. Anyway with the stubbing out of Budhism in India, it crossed the borders and spread to different nations of southeast and northeast Asia and flourished there and is today numerically stronger than hinduism!


Name: vbv
Date: Tuesday February 24, 2009
Time: 00:36:17 -0500

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To "Doubtful': Youy are distorting history. Hinduism is not a proselytising cult like islam or christianity with an agenda of hate everything other than their cults. Budhism and jainism are atheistc systems , and people ,given to superstition and fear had drifted from those two belief-system to hinduism .And mind you hinduism is not a cult founded by one man like islam or christianity. In hinduism their are many variations such as saivism, vaishnavism, shaktism,etc. There was no 'systematic' destruction of Budhist stupas as you falsely allege. Budhist places of worship were in disuse for centuries and fell into ruins. No budhist place of worship were destroyed and temples built on them , which is the hallmark of semetic barbarianism of islam and christianity. Nalanda University and Taxila University were flourishing until the muslim barbarians invaded India and burned down both these institutions. It is you christians who have sytematically destroyed civilisations in the American continents, committed genocides in all the lands you invaded , destroyed all the civilisations, like the spanish did to Mayans and other natives in central and south Americas ,looting their gold and killing and massacring the many, while forcibly converting the remaning to christianity. Also your infamous 'inquistion' in Europe. There was nothing like that in India looting, plundering and massacring in the name of 'religion' in India. Christianity also condoned slavery as late as the 19th century, and it was practiced by christians in many African countries well into the 20th century like in the erstwhile 'Rodhesia', South Africa, Namibia, etc. Look into your own evil mind before you point fingers at us Indians.


Name: Same Breed
Date: Tuesday February 24, 2009
Time: 01:20:42 -0500

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Hindu fanatics = hardcore Islamists.


Name: Languishing in the Dark Ages
Date: Tuesday February 24, 2009
Time: 01:23:44 -0500

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The mentality of this Super Idiot (vbv) is still languishing in the Dark Ages.


Name: vbv
Date: Tuesday February 24, 2009
Time: 05:52:14 -0500

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When truth stares at your face ,you christian fanatics soop very low to call me names using abusive, vulgar laguage. I will not be put down by your bigotry, your intolerant rants and lies. It is hard for you all to stomach inconvenient facts, that I can see through your most intemperate and abusive postings. You are rattled , not me , by TRUTH!


Name: What is the Truth?
Date: Tuesday February 24, 2009
Time: 12:15:43 -0500

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--"There was no 'systematic' destruction of Budhist stupas."--Is this what you call TRUTH? Mr. S.I.(vbv)? Please read this, After about 500 CE, Buddhism showed signs of waning in India, becoming nearly extinct after about 1200 CE. This was partially due to Muslim invasions and partially due to Hinduism's revival movements such as Advaita and the rise of the bhakti movement.(Indian tolerance)? The Sunga dynasty (185–73 BCE) was established in 185 BCE, about 50 years after Ashoka's death. After assassinating King Brhadrata (last of the Mauryan rulers), military commander-in-chief Pusyamitra Sunga took the throne. Buddhist religious scriptures such as the Ashokavadana allege that Pusyamitra (an orthodox Brahmin) was hostile towards Buddhists and persecuted the Buddhist faith. Buddhists wrote that he "destroyed monasteries and killed Monks" [8]: 84,000 Buddhist stupas which had been built by Ashoka were "destroyed" (R. Thaper), and 100 gold coins were offered for the head of each Buddhist monk [9]. In addition, Buddhist sources allege that a large number of Buddhist monasteries (viharas) were converted to Hindu temples, in such places as Nalanda, Bodhgaya, Sarnath, or Mathura.


Name: Doubtful
Date: Wednesday February 25, 2009
Time: 08:35:20 -0500

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To vbv. You are such an Idiotic Imbecile that you don't see reason evenif proof for the systematic persecution of Budhists and elimination of Budhism by the wretched hindus in India. What is the use in saying that you are a post- graduate? You are an ignoramus in history. Not only you are an ignoramus, you are a No.1 hindu chauvinist and fascist. Since you are pretending to sleep nobody can wake you up. Your barking at christians willnot make you any hero.You are only a zero in our eyes. Just like the other VHP, Sangh Parivar hypocrites, you are also one worm in the wet cowdung pit! Nothing more than that.


Name: vbv
Date: Thursday February 26, 2009
Time: 03:12:43 -0500

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To a lesson from history: It seems okay if Asoka could use his military might to convert hindus to Budhism, but not vice-versa. Strange logic ! However, the Bhakti movement was not a military movement nor were they were anything like the fanatical christian missioneries or muslims zealots going on a 'conversion' spree by fraud or force. None of the Bhakti movement savants or saints ever used any force,or butchered like muslims or what the christians did in the American continents where the original inhabitants have either been decimated or forcibly converted to christianity. In India various sects lived together and no one carried out witch-hunting like the christians or converted by sword or rape like the muslims. St. Thomas came to India and he was allowed to carry out his preaching in the 1st. century AD, the Iranians came to India to escape arab muslim persecution with their zorastrian faith and to this day they have not been converted, nor the jews who have been in India for 2000years and continue to practice their faith and nobody persecuted or tried to 'convert' them to hinduism. This shows that you are a typical christian fanatic like the scores of evangelicals and other fanatical christian missioneries in India who distort , denigrate and try to destroy Indian culture to fraudulently convert poor and hapless people taking advantage of their dismal , deprived economic conditions with false promises of jesus being a 'saviour' and a guaranteed passport to 'heaven',otherwise it is going to be 'hell'. This is the type of canard and fraudulent practices employed by these so-called christians! You can lie and obfuscate to your utmost but we in India are not impressed by your Lies and innuendos!


Name: Great and Ancient Sacred Literature
Date: Thursday February 26, 2009
Time: 03:53:37 -0500

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The great and ancient sacred literature produces men and women that produced a nation of MILLIONS of beggars and MILLIONS more go hungry and homeless.


Name: A Great Country
Date: Thursday February 26, 2009
Time: 05:44:14 -0500

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The number of beggars of this miserable country is greater than the whole population of the Jewish State of Israel. Thanks to those ancient and sacred literature that guided and illuminated the minds of men and women of this great country.


Name: ceejay to vbv
Date: Thursday February 26, 2009
Time: 09:03:32 -0500

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You are an incorrigible ignoramus. You don't know the stature of Ms.Romilla Thapar who is an authority on Indian history.After careful study of ancient books and manuscripts, she opines that it was hinduism which wiped out budhism in India.You are simply repeating the stinking verbal vomit of the VHP/RSS/Sangh Parivar cronies who know nothing about history or anything. The bloody rascals are now ashamed of the beginning of hindu culture, so they are trying to re-write history. Around 5000 years ago, a group of Arya savages came to India from Caspian coast in central Asia and crushed to ground the then flourishing Dravida civilisation prevalent in the Indus valley which was almost the most advanced in the world then. Of course these dravidas were dark skinned , but the savage arya bastards were fairskinned and much superior in body structure and weaponry. These bastards fought with the peace loving and meek dravidas and wiped out their culture and made all these poor, humble dravidas their slaves. The great and ancient sacred literature which you so proudly boast of is nothing but depiction of the wars between these darkskinned, meek and the progressive dravidas and the aggresive, violent and the blood-thirsty aryas who before long established their supremacy and treated the vanguished as nothing but shit. It is a travesty of truth that the real life aggressors were depicted as the people of dharma (righteousness) and the poor, peace-loving people were depicted as Adharma or evil. The descendants of these rascals called aryas are the present day uppercaste hindus and the vanguished dravidas are the present day dalits or sudras as 'affectionately' called by these barbarians. So you will find that these rascals are carrying on their agression and cruelties for the last more than 5000 years. Compared to this gigantic exploitation and cruelties inflicted upon the silent and the hapless majority by the upper caste minority for the last 5000 years or more in India which has no parallel in history , the persecution by christians pales into insignificance. Their existence is for maximum 2000 years only. You hindu fanatics, don't you ever think that you are a paragon of virtues. Your hands are full of blood stains and don't think that you can simply wish it away. The whole water in ganges is poured upon you also your sins willnot be washed out. These rascals are ashamed of their arya ancestry now and they want to rewrite history so as to appear as they are the original inhabitants of this land and the arya invasion is a myth. These bloody fanatics are the people who killed Ganghiji and you are siding with them and ridiculing christianity. Don't ever think that we will get perturbed by your stinking verbal bullshit. We consider it like the streetdog barking at the moon. That's all.


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