Making Muslims Feel at Home in the UK and US
05 April, 2008
Part 1: In the UK
“You are hostile toward Muslims and you discriminate against them, Andy Capp. You must make them feel at home even if it kills you and destroys England.”
Muslim immigrants just don’t feel at home in England and it’s
Andy Capp's fault and, maybe Maggie
Thatcher’s and John Bull’s, the flora and fauna of English
civilization—there’s too much of it and it seems to be gaining
strength rather than disappearing into a Caliphate. Multiculturalism
has fallen out of favor says the Joseph Roundtree Foundation, a
liberal social policy research and development charity. (Roundtree
is heavily invested in multiculturalism) Trevor Phillips of
Roundtree has done his best to warn England that the country is
“sleepwalking toward segregation” and the Foundation’s latest report
seems to bear it out. “A perceived lack of acceptance in the UK has
negatively affected the sense of belonging for all recent and
established migrants in Britain.” Muslim immigrants, in particular,
face so much hostility and discrimination they don’t feel at home.
Have any that of Halal Beer
Well, if that‘s true, times have certainly changed! When Ben Franklin was in London he was treated like a King—well, almost—and so were Benedict Arnold and Judah P. Benjamin. Say! Is there any hard evidence that the Roundtree assumptions are correct?
There certainly is! Why just the other day English medical authorities told Muslim women doctors they wouldn’t be allowed to perform open-heart surgery if they wore hijabs or burkas! Really? What gall! What colossal nerve! The James Boys wore bandannas when they robbed banks and it didn’t impair their vision a one bit! And no Ku Kluxer ever singed his fingers while burning a cross because he was wearing a hood! Gosh! Besides—patients undergoing open-heart surgery don’t care who’s operating on them as long as it isn’t Doctor Kevorkian and he isn’t using garden shears. Gosh! Talk about being ridiculous!
And how about Salman Rushdie? Wasn’t that bizarre? Words can hurt! If Rushdie is such a smart guy couldn’t he have found a less offensive way to insult Islam? Couldn’t he have put the Prophet in Madonna’s loo instead of in a house of ill repute? Why did he write that book? Why did he come to England? Why did the Crown protect him? Andy Capp can’t read Arabic.
Sir Iqbal Sacranie was outraged and one can’t blame him. He protested but what good did it do? Sir Iqbal is a man among giants; he’s intellectual infinitude; he is just and humane; he’s probably kind to dogs; he thought the whole thing over and came to the conclusion that Rushdie should not be killed no matter what the fatwa said. What a gallant bloke! “Death is too good for Rushdie,” he said.
When Sacranie invited Osama bin Laden to a London “Revival Rally” in 1996 the Crown objected. It was because of the Jews. The British always liked the Jews better. Maybe if the Brits had been kinder to Osama…
When Sir Iqbal refused to participate in Holocaust Memorial Day in 2005 because the 10 million Palestinians murdered by the Israelis were not included, the organizers went ahead without him. Hold it! Ten Million? Isn’t that a bit high? Wasn’t it somewhat less? It could be—people who are discriminated against tend to exaggerate.
But the insults never cease! The Satanic Verses, Holocaust Memorial Day…and, remember, the Queen knighted Salman Rushdie! A slap in the face to all Muslims! She made a heretic the Iqbal of Sir Equal Sacranie! (Sir Equal Sacranie? That doesn’t sound right. It is easy to get excited over these things) And now Rushdie is not only the Iqbal of Sacranie he is also superior to Tariq Ramadan and Inayat Bunglawala. Aramis resigned from The Three Musketeers for less! Sure.
And if England is a multicultural heaven why are the police cracking down on female genital circumcision (incorrectly labeled mutilation)? Have they no respect for other cultures? Do they know how dark and dirty it is in those back alleys? (Female Genital Mutilation was banned under British Law in 2003. Few if any practitioners of FGM have been arrested. Police believe up to 60,000 girls are at risk annually. One midwife said she treats 400 to 500 victims of botched circumcisions every year)
And look at Abu Hamza—poor fellow, locked away in jail, forced to listen to loud rock music day and night! What kind of life is that? He was taken from his family, his welfare checks, his unpaid preaching job—his only enjoyment in life—and tossed into jail with such creeps and thugs as would have made Holmes and Bond shudder. And for what…for possessing what the authorities determined to be a terrorist’s encyclopedia under some vague clause in the Terrorist Act? The Terrorists Act! It is getting so a literate man can’t keep up with his reading without being arrested! It’s no wonder half of all Muslims in England would prefer Sharia Law! How will the Brits ever convince the Abu Hamzas that England understands and appreciates them? It won’t be easy.
And Omar Bakri, poor Omar Bakri—look at poor Omar Bakri! How he was treated would have brought tears to the eyes of Ebenezer Scrooge! He had lived in England for 20 years—20 years—and then he took a little trip to Lebanon and when it came time for him to return, the Crown said he couldn’t! Why? Was it something he said? Every government can stand a little criticism. None of the things he said were any worse than what Jeremiah Wright has been saying about America for the last 20 years. “Why I condemn Osama bin Laden for?” he asked, “I condemn Tony Blair, I condemn George Bush. I would never condemn Osama bin Laden.” Isn’t that what Red Ken Livingstone and George Galloway have been saying?
Why should anyone be surprised if Omar Bakri thinks he’s being persecuted? And he’s a family man just like Abu Hamza! Who’s been taking care of his kids? Madonna? Andy Capp? Maybe Heather Mills with that recent windfall could be of some help.
And the 7/7 bombers—alone, ignored, facing a hostile environment—what else could have been expected of them?
“It is this perception of being unwelcome and of discrimination rather than attachment to their country of origin,” says the Roundtree report, “that diminishes a sense of belonging in British society, and there is thus need to address public attitudes towards Muslims and towards migrants as a key component of cohesion strategy.”
Uh-huh. Well, everyone will have to do his part. Let there be no shirkers. They will be made welcome. But please, no more talk of converting churches and synagogues into mosques. And stop calling them ‘Asians,’ the Japanese and the Chinese are going to get angry. Oh, yeah, and have Andy Capp drop off a pint at Mohammed’s or Abdul’s on the way home from the pub tonight. It’s a good icebreaker…get them to loosen up a little…
Yeah, sure…
Part 2: In the US
Part Two: Andy Capp’s American cousins: “Do your share, Yank. Make Mohammed feel at home.”
Now that Andy Capp has been told he must do more to make Muslim
immigrants feel at home in the UK, his
American cousins thought they might pitch in and lend a hand. They
had some ideas they thought Andy could use and they wanted to try
some of them out. Knowing how much Andy enjoyed his suds some of
these ideas were sure to be right up his alley. They would try them
and if they worked they would send them to Andy. Number one was
simplicity itself. They would invite one of their Muslim neighbors
down to Joe’s Bar and Grille and Gun Club for a pint of ale. Better
make that a pitcher—ordering beer by the pint would confuse old
Lenny. Lenny is Joe’s bartender; he is easily confused; he hasn’t
been the same since he took a hockey to the side of the head back
in…what was it, ’61?
So they looked around for someone to invite and, lo and behold, they saw Ibrahim Hooper’s name in the newspaper. How about Ibrahim someone said? That sounded good; their first choice hadn’t worked out. Ibrahim was a big fish in the CAIR pool. They would have to be careful how they treated him. Humor was the best way to go so they sent him a cute message. “Come out from under that list of un-indicted co-conspirators, Ibrahim. We know you’re in there somewhere—we can hear Stephen Emerson talking in the background. But cheer up, buddy, you have been cordially invited—“ and on and on. They had wanted Nihad Awad.
Friday was Pin the Tail on the Donkey Night at Joe’s Bar and Grille and Gun Club. A committee of three would select the most obnoxiously ridiculous public figure of the past few days and they would pin a tail on the wretch—not on the actual person, one can get in trouble for doing that (and they have) but on his likeness, a picture of a donkey with the honoree’s head glued to the correct portion of the animal’s anatomy. The recipient was to be Robert Mueller of the FBI. The boys had invited Nihad Awad but when Izzy Goldstein said he would pin the tail on Nihad’s head instead of Mueller’s hind end if Nihad showed up, Joe cancelled the invitation and they invited Ibrahim. Everyone expected to have a great time.
Then, in a stroke of genius, one the boys suggested a sing-along on the order of High School Musical! It was a great idea but when Hannah Montana didn’t return any of their 57 calls they gave up. They should have kept trying. The idea was to put part of the Qur’an to music! As far as they knew it had never been done before. Imagine—the Qur’an to music! Wow! It would have been Shakespeare in suras—only better. One of the selections was from Muslim: B1N142:
“’O womenfolk, you should ask forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady said: ‘Why is it, Allah’s Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: “You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.”
It was Hemingway unchained!
Well. Mr. Andy Capp felt he could do without that kind of help. “Blimey!’ he said. “Why don’t you chaps go to Jihad Watch, to the Religion of Peace, to Amil Amani, to the Gates of Vienna, to maxflack, to Islam Watch…go, go, go somewhere, but go.”
Well, it was better than being told to go to Hell. So Andy’s American cousins did as he suggested.
The first thing they saw was a Muslim bus driver stop his bus in the middle of London, order his passengers out, and then get down on his knees to pray. After a few minutes he got up, opened the door and invited the passengers back in. He had no takers. This was a head-scratcher. Was it an old episode of Seinfeld that had never been aired or had the driver gone off his rocker? And it didn’t get any better:
Police had reported that an Army cadet had been ‘racially abused’ (whatever that was) by three ‘Asians” (whoever they were) while collecting sponsorship money for a charity walkathon…A Muslim asylum seeker from Iran had received 25,000 pounds in welfare benefits even though he had a 500,000 pound bank account. He had also been working while on the dole…Jack Straw, Minister of Justice, had apologized to Muslim prisoners at Armley Jail. Yes! Apologized! What on earth for? They had been mistakenly offered ham sandwiches during a holiday festival! It was regrettable said Straw; the prison staff will be retrained! The ham sandwich had been one of three offerings. Three? They only get one offering in the US Marine Corps…A report said half of London’s clergymen had been attacked by Muslim youths during the preceding twelve months…British airmen at RAF Wittering were told not to wear their uniforms off base to avoid being verbally abused by civilians. Abused by civilians? What was this? Had Jane Fonda moved to England?
And there were ‘honor killings.’ A Saudi father shot and killed his daughter for chatting with a ‘man’ on an Internet Facebook; a Jordanian man shot and killed his 23-year-old sister and her boyfriend when he caught them ‘red-handed.’ Red-handed? Forensic tests proved she was still a virgin! There were 17 ‘honor killings’ in Jordan last year…The latest United Nations Human Rights report charged the Sudanese Army with direct involvement in recent mass rapes of women and girls in the Darfur region of Sudan. Someone remembered Aqsa Parvez…and Lee Boyd Malvo…and Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar.
And there were the threats. From Hezballah: “Let them be frightened and worried. Let them taste fear and fright. Israel can be eliminated.” From Abu Bakar Bashir of Indonesia: “The youth movement here must aspire to a martyrdom death.” Tourists are “worms, snakes, maggots—those are animals that crawl. Take a look at Bali…those infidel tourists. God willing, there are none here, if there were infidels here, beat them up. Do not tolerate them.” Infidels? Tourists? Bali?
And of course, there was Geert Wilders and Fitna…It was as if a million Godfathers had risen from the dead to put a hit on Mario Puzo. The boys at Joe’s Bar and Grille were stunned. Someone remembered Salman Rushdie…and the Jyllands-Posten Mohammed cartoons…and Theo van Gogh and Submission…and 9/11. They forgot cousin Andy. Inviting Ibrahim Hooper to the bar for a cold one wouldn’t have any more effect on the situation in England—or in America—than a raindrop in Hell. This was bigger than Joe’s Bar and Grille. They would need William Tecumseh Sherman and his the Army of the Tennessee and the 2nd Armored Division and that would only be a start.
What in the Hell had America’s politicians been doing the last twenty years? Bush and Clinton and Powell…Carter and Bonnier and McDermott…They now knew damn well what the last three had been doing.
And there…that sound coming from Florida…from the University of Miami…from the clock tower over the Richter Library…was that the Muslim call to prayer? Yes, it was!
Somebody remembered Robert Escamilla. The same people who would reprimand a teacher for bringing a Bible to a classroom were thrilled by the sound issuing from the tower over the library! What mad universe was this? Had the insanity made its way from England to the United States? Harvard was lining up behind the University of Miami; Dearborn, Michigan, was more like Cairo and Baqubah than Peoria; there were footbaths in airports, cab drivers refusing to transport passengers carrying spirits, Imams parading around landing strips, wearing their religion on their sleeves like Nazis brandishing armbands.
“Well, boys.” said Luke, “if we’re going to pin the tail on the donkey this week we’ll have to start calling it a jackass and pin it on ourselves.”
Was it a day on enlightenment? One hopes.
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Denis Schulz was prospective convert to Islam (read his testimony: How I Almost Became a Muslim?) before changing his mind after the 9/11. He actively writes on the threats of Islam and terrorism.
Name: agnostic
Date: Friday April 04, 2008
Time: 21:05:11 -0700
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Thisi s a COMPILATION of NU LABOUR'S SUCKING UP TO MUSLIM FILTH This is what Jesus meant when he said: "As you sow, so shall you reap.....unto the 1000th generation (OT) So the descendants are paying BIG TIME for the Sins of Their Fathers.: 1) Blair is a corrupt, evil Leftist. He willingly purchased the Islamist bill of goods regarding the evils of Western imperialism because it so resonated with moonbat ideology and therefore very kindly overlooked the killing of innocent people, his own natives, as a righteous act, not to mention the blatant contraventions of western ideals such as women's rights, free speech, monogamy which he thought wrong and ardently instructed that muslims have a right to have their polygamy and multiple wives while his native brethren should slave away and support them. To the demented, deranged Blair, this is Christian kindness - he did this after converting to Roman Catholicism. 2) Self-hatred is a sickness, and Britainstan has a raging case of it. The establishment including the media, particularly the Britainstan Bismillah Corruptors/Collaborators is allowed to serve Britainstanis a potent concoction of noxious ingredients in the form of being pro-islam and anti-christian, being rabidly anti-semite, doublespeak/newspeak, twist, distort, manipulate news i.e.concentrate on the trivia and omit the essential - the BBC slime balls have learnt well Taqiyyah and revel in it. The repeated and the incessant peddling of the message that Britainstan is to blame for Islamist attacks on itself - therefore Brits have to kowtow even lower and request to be struck hard on their face while paying their jizya to the muslim filth in their midst, to be the ox to work harder and harder for muslim parasites (Animal Farm). The BBC slime balls will then assess and determine whether natives should allow their young daughters to be given for genital mutilation and for rape to muslim filth. It is the official voice for muslims. 3) After the 7/7 bombing, Britainstan dhimmis led by pro-Islamofascism Blair read from the politically correct script, blaming not Islamism, but Islamophobia. London’s mayor, Ken Livingstone, after initially condemning the attacks, within a couple weeks was saying that the true fault lay in “80 years of Western intervention into predominantly Arab lands because of the Western need for oil.” In other words, shut up natives! Woe to those who think it a ridiculous idea at the core of political correctness is that a minority culture is always a victim of the majority culture Under NU LABOUR Thinking Not Allowed! Thinking Aloud? For crying out loud!!! 4) Seeing that Denis Schulz mentions Iqbal Sacranie it should be comforting to Brit natives that he is the Secretary General of Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), the UK’s largest Muslim organization. He thought it revolting that the Queen should commemmorate Holocaust Day, and in of all places, Westminister Abbey and thus boycotted it. The evil scum felt righteous of his unsavory politics. Sacranie has links to Chowdhury Mueen-Uddin, an alleged war criminal and MCB associate. NOTE THAT. Blair turns deaf, blind, and dumb to this. 5) UK police: you can't fight terror without working with extremist Muslims So Robert Lambert of the Muslim Contact Unit with the Metropolitan Police in London happily engaged terrorist group Hizb ut tahrir (kicked out of Germany ) in the home office also the Muslim Brotherhood in the foreign office . Brit natives are so dumbed down they kow tow even lower to accept the unholy alliance. Abu Hamza had for many years preached his hate towards the west every Friday, in his extremists mosque at Finchley Road in North London. Many were surprised that the police did not act towards his supporters, but Robert Lambert explains that they wanted to go after the real evil guys and not just after the young followers. No more queries, stupid Brit natives. Don't yousee, muslim bubonic plague must be protected at all costs. Then the Tories started biting the asses of Nu Labour who were forced, most reluctantly, to jail Abu Hamza and promptly rewarded him Abu Hamza paid £220,000 for house while in prison. GORDON BROWN was asked to explain how Abu Hamza al-Masri, the militant cleric, managed to buy a £220,000 house in London while being held in a top-security prison. MPs want to discover how the Islamist extremist was able to pay cash for the four-bedroom property in northwest London when both the Treasury and the United Nations had frozen his assets because of his terrorist links. Patrick Mercer, the Tory homeland security spokesman, said: “This is outrageous and makes an utter mockery of how the Chancellor has slipped up in dealing with terrorist financing. George Osborne, the Shadow Chancellor, demanded that Mr Brown explain how the cleric had apparently managed to make a mockery of Britain’s supposed tough counter-terrorism laws. “If Abu Hamza bought a property while in prison, this will raise serious questions about the Government’s promise to clamp down on the financing of terror,” The purchase was uncovered by investigators working for the Legal Services Commission, the body in charge of the £2 billion legal aid budget. They reportedly discovered a financial trail linking the sale of another London property, in Adie Road, Hammersmith, to the purchase of the house in Greenford. WHILE native Brits scrimp and scrounge on fish and chips and Heinz beans on toast 6 days/week? 5)) Britainstan’s view of extremism align with Islamic terrorism. Trevor Brooks aka Abu Izzadeen was treated with cotton wool when he insulted, heckled, barracked and threatened Dr Reid the Police chief. Walter Wolfgang , a Holocaust survivor in his 80s was roughly handled by Tony Blair's goons and handed over to the police where he was held under the terrorism act - being he shouted "rubbish" at then foreign secretary Jack Straw who was doling out unfair favour to his muslim constitutents. The traitor JS was later sacked. 6) Alexander Solzhenitzn said....To destroy a people ,you must first sever their roots. Nu Labour thus proceeded to replace traditional British values almost by a rabid devotion to the hollow ideals of tolerance and multiculturalism. This “tolerance,” in practice, translates into a violent repudiation of tradition—which, in Britain, includes all scripturally based beliefs and morals. British society has vitiated its people’s sense of identity, of history, of responsibility. Secularism, self-loathing is lauded. Brit natives sucked up to it, drank the wine of multiculti and became too drunk to see the unceasing wave of muslim immigration by traitors Blair and Brown. 6) Aiding and Abetting Nu Labour was the ArchDhimmi who led The Church of England—deeply infected by liberalism and hatred of the West, proposed that Britain apologize for the Iraq war, never mind that 57 Brits died at the hands of home-grown Brit muslim filth in 7/7. , the minds that hatched these murders—filled with incomprehensible, alien hate—were homegrown 7) How did the traitor Blair handle the aftermath of 7/7? He created a post-7/7 advisory task force to tackle extremism “head on”—made up of the best experts on the subject the government could find: i.e. MUSLIMS, SOMEOF WHOM WERE NOTORIOUS EXTREMISTS!! . Unsurprisingly, the task force’s recommendations entailed appeasing Muslims by bending British culture and policy into closer conformity with Islam. In essence, it pinned the blame for 7/7 not on angry Muslims, but on the state—for making Muslims angry. Hot on his heels, the Nottinghamshire chief constable made it his top priority to deal with the problem—not by clamping down on extremism, but by pacifying the Muslim community with gestures such as ordering 20,000 green ribbons for all public officials to wear in a show of solidarity with muslim scum .In her scorching book Londonistan, author Melanie Phillips documents the unbelievable extent to which the UK has become home to the most extreme elements of Islamism in the world. Brits can thank Blair and Brown for the state of affairs. 8) The British have enabled extremist Islamism to infect their nation from within. It threatens to do them in. . Britain refuses to ban Hizb ut-Tahrir, and has allowed the activists of the now-disbanded group Al-Muhajiroun to continue openly campaigning against democracy and promoting terror. Al-Muhajiroun, was allowed openly to preach radicalism and hate for 20 years in Britainstan. These individuals are the wet-nurses of terrorism. As culpable as the Islamist radicals who thrive in Britain are the government officials and civil servants from MI6 and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. These are actively engaged in a policy of "Engaging With the Islamic World". It's up to the natives really. Zimbabweins have shown they refuse to take any more from Mugabe. Malaysians showed the ruling party they are not invincible. Will the Brit natives stand up, storm the Bastille and take back their country? Or do they prefer dhimmitude, being identified as pussies and prefer a life on bended knees handing their wives and daughters for genital mutilation and rape, their young men herded to Old Trafford for beheading and open air sex of their babies by the muslim scourge of the earth in their midst? Carry on like this, and that's precisely what will happen. Islamic Jihad history is full of it.
Name: Anthony Hill
Date: Friday April 04, 2008
Time: 23:01:03 -0700
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We didnt get it did we these poor people are following our customs eight wanted to give us a April fools joke in the mid Atlantic I guess that would be because the USA and the UK share the same sort of culture. Its wasnt supposed to offend anyone, we are British, we were born in the UK, now the whole of the muslim community will be offended dragging us into court like this. for a joke.
Name: Allat
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 06:02:07 -0700
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"This is what Jesus said, As you sow, so shall you reap.....unto the 1000th generation"---------------Jesus NEVER said that! That is from the Jewish scriptures, which Jesus broke with. The Jewish Jehovah was the one for revenges, "and eye for an eye." The Prince of Peace NEVER said it.___Educate yourself.
Name: Allat
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 06:07:49 -0700
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From the Bible, Galatians VI (King James Version): Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.___________What Jesus said and did was recorded in the 4 Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. THe rest of the New Testament aster that was "written" by Saul/Paul, the Pharasee, that did a u-turn back to the Jewish scriptures of revenge.
Name: SomeOne
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 07:30:01 -0700
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nti-Islam-Blog (In Arabic) http://blog.unmasking-islam.net/ >>>>>>>>> Photos Album (Islam under microscope) http://album.unmasking-islam.net >>>>>>>> Video (Islam in practice) Beheadings, and cutting hands http://album.unmasking-islam.net/thumbnails-12.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy the bloody watch
Name: What they say about Muhammad?
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 10:18:22 -0700
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http://www.progressive-muslim.org/prominent-non-muslims-say-about-prophet-muhmmad.htm
Name: to Allat
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 11:34:10 -0700
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Here is something Jesus most definitely said (Matthew 5:17) "Do not think that I have come to do away with the Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets. I have not come to do away with them, but to make their teachings come true." Jesus didn't have to say "as you sow, so shall you reap". It had already been said. Jesus also told His own parables about sowing seed. The seeds that fell by the wayside were eaten by the birds, those that fell on rocky soil had shallow roots, etc. Only the seeds that fell in good soil grew and bore grain.
Name: Re: Quran on Jews and Christians
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 11:40:16 -0700
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The quran is wrong about trinity. In 5:116 it is asserted that the trinity consists of god, jesus and mary. But this is wrong. The trinity consists of the father, the son and the holy ghost. The author of the quran does not understand what he is writing about. There is no islamic idea of jesus, the quran copies almost everything from the bible, gnostic texts and other sources. That´s why we find nice fairytales in the quran, such as the virginity of mary, but they are of course not true. By copiying such things from the bible, the quran reveals it´s own weakness. The author believed in miracles modern people don´t. He had no idea about modern science at all.
Name: Re: Quran on Jews and Christians
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 11:54:28 -0700
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The quran is the only holy scripture that declares that humans are made from clot. This is revealed in the very first surah 96 which was ever made public. The quran is wrong from the beginning, from the first day islam teaches wrong things! Quran is also wrong concernig the trinity and esra, which was never regarded as son of god by the jews as asserted in 9:030. The quran says wrong things about christians and jews!
Name: clot , yes that is what you were!!
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 12:35:18 -0700
Comment
Surah 96. The Clot, Read! 1. Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created- 2. Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood: 3. Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- 4. He Who taught (the use of) the pen,- 5. Taught man that which he knew not. 6. Nay, but man doth transgress all bounds, 7. In that he looketh upon himself as self-sufficient. 8. Verily, to thy Lord is the return (of all). 9. Seest thou one who forbids- 10. A votary when he (turns) to pray? 11. Seest thou if he is on (the road of) Guidance?- 12. Or enjoins Righteousness? 13. Seest thou if he denies (Truth) and turns away? 14. Knoweth he not that Allah doth see? 15. Let him beware! If he desist not, We will drag him by the forelock,- 16. A lying, sinful forelock! 17. Then, let him call (for help) to his council (of comrades): 18. We will call on the angels of punishment (to deal with him)! 19. Nay, heed him not: But bow down in adoration, and bring thyself the closer (to Allah.!
Name: Re: clot , yes that is what you were!!
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 12:55:32 -0700
Comment
No, I was not made from clot! This is an insult to all human beings by the quran and by islam. What else does the quran have to say about clot? That sperm isbeing gushed out from the backbone, that this sperm turns into clot, and then the clot turns into flesh and so forth. This is wrong and there are so many wrong teachings in the quran. That the earth and flat and that both sun and the moon are running around it, that god sticked the stars to heaven and so forth and so forth. What else do you believe? In Santa Clot? That the blots on your bed will turn into clot? That a blood sausage can turn into a muslim? That´s what it takes to be a muslim: To believe in stupid things!
Name: Re: Re: Quran on Jews and Christians
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 12:56:12 -0700
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"The quran is wrong about trinity. In 5:116 it is asserted that the trinity consists of god, jesus and mary." --- Quran never says that in the first place!!! Read the verse carefully. Don't be fooled by Islam haters.
Name:
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 13:00:09 -0700
Comment
Hey clot idiot! Stop spamming the forum with the same BS!
Name: Re: Re: Re: Quran on Jews and Christians
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 13:14:44 -0700
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I would like to tell you one thing: I am not fooled by others. In contrast to most muslims I am free to read anything I want and I do read what I want. In my view, the quran is written by somebody without good education. The author of the quran tries to look like somebody great, but he fails to do so. The language of the quran is lengthy, boring, sometimes very vulgar, it promotes violence and hate against others, intolerance and it contradicts science, logic, history and common sense. It contradicsts even itself in many places. In short, I do not believe that the author of the quran was very intelligent. He also did not have good manners. He sometimes used swearwords. He called christian and jews pigs and monkeys. I think it is close to blasphemy to believe that an almighty god would do such things.
Name: re: "Hey clot idiot! Stop spamming the forum with the same BS!"
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 13:22:41 -0700
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It´s always the same. If you are out of arguments you turn to insult others. But what is islam really good for? Any idea? Does islam contribute anything to the world? Did you know that 10 Million Greeks read more books than 350 Million Arabs? Now, tell me: Who is fooled by whom?
Name: Dr. Saroopji Maharaj, Ph.D., D.D., embraces Islam
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 13:43:01 -0700
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http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15436
Name: How arabs compare
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 14:00:41 -0700
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Quote from: http://www.meforum.org/article/513 "A telling indicator of the poor level of educational attainment in the Arab countries is the persistence of illiteracy rates that are higher, and educational enrollment rates that are lower, than those of dynamic less developed countries in East Asia and Latin America." Here we can see that even poorer non muslim countries have higher education levels than richer muslim countries. The situation is really bad. But all they care for is religion and Hula Bula Hokus Pokus.
Name: Does Islam make stupid?
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 14:21:02 -0700
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:National_IQ_Lynn_Vanhanen_2006_IQ_and_Global_Inequality.png
Name: Does Islam make stupid (II)
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 14:24:07 -0700
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Name: agnostic
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 15:12:24 -0700
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allat, read properly, ding bat. I said .......unto the 1000th generation (OT) OT get it dunghead. OT stands for Old Testament. Sheeeesh!!!!
Name: agnostic
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 15:15:52 -0700
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allat, Read properly. I said........unto the 1000th generation (OT) Ding bat, OT stands for Old Testament. Sheeesh!!!
Name: agnostic
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 15:46:48 -0700
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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS, SON OF GOD AND MO, SON OF SATAN***Sermon on the Mount by Jesus......Happy are those who know they are spiritually poor; the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them! ---Happy are those who mourn; God will comfort them!---Happy are those who are humble; they will receive what God has promised!---Happy are those whose greatest desire is to do what God requires; God will satisfy them fully!---Happy are those who are merciful to others; God will be merciful to them! Happy are the pure in heart; they will see God!---Happy are those who work for peace; God will call them his children!---Happy are those who are persecuted because they do what God requires; the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them!---Happy are you when the people insult you and persecute you and tell all kinds of evil lies against you because you are my followers. Be happy and glad, for a great reward is kept for you in heaven. This is how the prophets before you were persecuted. ----You are like salt for all mankind. But if salt loses its saltiness, there is no way to make it salty again. It has become worthless, so it is thrown out and people trample on it.----You are like light for the whole world. A city built on a hill cannot be hid. No one lights a lamp and puts it under a bowl; instead he puts puts it on the lampstand, where it gives light for everyone in the house. In the same way your light must shine before people, so that they will see the good things you do and praise your Father in heaven.>>>>>>>>Cherry picking from the 160 VIOLENT VERSES handed to his adherents by PSYCHOPATH MOHAMMAD, SATAN'S SON.Tabari VIII:116 , Ishaq:511: "So Muhammad began seizing their herds and their property bit by bit. He conquered home by home. The Messenger took some of its people captive, including Safiyah, and her two cousins. The Prophet chose Safiyah for himself." Tabari VIII:117: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself. Muhammad gave Dihyah her two cousins instead." Ishaq:511 "When he protested, wanting to keep Safiyah for himself, the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims Bukhari:V5B59N512: "The Prophet had their men killed, their children and woman taken as captives. The captives were divided among the Muslims. Then the Messenger began taking the homes and property that were closest to him."... Bukhari:V4B52N203 "I heard Allah's Apostle saying, ‘He who obeys me, obeys Allah, and he who disobeys me, disobeys Allah. He who obeys the chief, obeys me, and he who disobeys the chief, disobeys me.'".... Bukhari:V1B4N1229-33: "Aisha [who was 9] said, ‘I used to wash semen off the Prophet's [who was 53] clothes. When he went for prayers I used to notice one or more spots on them.'" .****** Jesus showed his divinity by doing many miracles, made prophecies that came true; and led a sinless life. He fulfilled over 300 prophecies about himself. He never raped, murdered, marry a child, convert, loot, plunder or preach hate against humanity. Mo the paedophile mass murderer rapist would froth and foam at the mouth and roll on the floor in agony at the SIGHT OF THE CROSS!!! He derived orgasmic spasms at mass murders. His followers since then do same. >>>>But the god of Abraham CURSED Ishmael, forefather of satanic Mo while He blessed Issac, father of Jacob (Israel). That is why all of Mo's sons died, while a sickly girl he named Fatima survived BUT both her sons were beheaded by none other than first generation muslims. Very clear that the evil seed of filthy MO was to be eliminated forever. And so filthy muslim scourge of the earth, be prepared for annihilation at the hand of your great grandfather Abraham's god.
Name: agnostic
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 15:47:12 -0700
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In sura 96.1 & 96.2 that man was created from a blood clot, but 21.3 & 24.45 says from water,19.67 from nothing, 3.59 & 35.11 from clay The Quran says in sura 96.1 & 96.2 that man was created from a blood clot, but 21.3 & 24.45 says from water,19.67 from nothing, 3.59 & 35.11 from clay, 15.26 from mud and 16.4 & 75.37 says from a thickened liquid. 15.26 from mud and 16.4 & 75.37 says from a thickened liquid........SO WHICH PART OF THE QURAN IS WRONG? CAN A WORD OF GOD AND FROM GOD BE WRONG?
Name: agnostic
Date: Saturday April 05, 2008
Time: 16:18:40 -0700
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While the traitors in the UK and US make muslims feel at home, the common people should be aware of LIST OF MUSLIM CRIMES IN THE WEST.>>9/11, 3000 innocent people murdered** (2) A long litany of suicide bombings and murders in Israel (3) The beheadings of Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, and other white hostages...(4) The murder of foreign aid worker Margaret Hassan...5) The murder of Theo van Gogh (6) The 7/7 bombings in London , the botched London/Glasgow bombing attempt, and the botched attempt to blow up 10 airlines, trail of which is going on. (7) The ongoing murder of American servicemen and women in Iraq. American soldiers are tortured, mutilated, decapitated before booby trapped to murder those who attempt to remove them. (8) The recent plot to murder soldiers at Fort Dix (9) The murder of Salman Rushdie's Japanese translator of "Satanic Verses" (10) The 15 year old Scots boy Kriss Donald who was beaten,stabbed in the lungs, kidney and liver before gasoline was poured over him and set on fire while he was still ALIVE by three muslims....(11) Kidnapping boy toddlers for camel racing where they are beaten, starved, made to work 18 hours while being sodomised by Arabs, the filthy Mo's best people on earth. (11) Honor Killing. Goes on everyday. Queen Raina quite quite helpless to help in Jordan. Porkistan is rampant to satisfy the ever unsatisfied Porkis their sex lust, so spilling of blood with trumped up charge will do. (12) Norwegian-Somalian Kadra, who became famous in Norway for exposing imam support of female circumcision, was beaten unconscious . (13) Horrific Genital Mutilation is a MUST to satisfy the cruelty of sex maniac muslim men. They are all SADISTS and MISOGYNISTS and this proves it. ...(14) Catholic Herald reported on 4.4.2007 that an Assyrian Christian mother unable to pay Jizya had her 2 year old boy taken away and later returned COOKED and SERVED on Rice! Michael Yon, journalist in Iraq reported that muslims have begun kidnapping other muslims boys, BAKED them and served the dish to their families to feast upon. 40 men, women and children some of whom were decapitated were dug up by US and The Middle East Times tells us that the Christian evangelists who were recently killed by suspected Islamists in Turkey were savagely tortured. Dr. Murat Ugras, a spokesman for the Turgut Ozal Medical center, told the daily Hurriyet of hospital surgeons' fruitless efforts to save Ugur Yuksel, one of the three victims of the massacre at the Zirve (summit) publishing house, which distributed Christian literature. "He had scores of knife cuts on his thighs, his testicles, his rectum, and his back," Ugras said. "His fingers were sliced to the bone. The abuse lasted three hours according to postmortem. One of them was a German Tilmann Geske so Chancellor Angelika Merkel sent a strong scathing letter to the Turkish Govt. (15) French Jew Illan was kidnapped, tortured with cigarettes, beaten with sticks, iron bars, rubber hoses, slivered by knives, for FOUR DAYS in muslim neighbourhood, France, where ALL muslims said they did not hear anything during police investigation although they queued to view the torture which was their entertainment .(16 ) Oslo Muslims Six Times More Likely to Rape . (17) 65% of the rape crimes in Oslo were committed by muslims (18) In Italy 95% of all rapists are muslims. 85% of all murderers are muslim scums, but of course!!! According to Khomeini: ..."Killing is a form of mercy because it rectifies the person. Sometimes a person cannot be reformed unless he is cut up and burned. You must kill, burn and lock up those in opposition." ARE YOU LISTENING, UK and US? Both countries are supposedly to war against terrorism yet both countries collaborate with islamists and allow terrorism to flourish on home soil. Look to Russia, China, Israel and Germany, and of course the man - The Pope!!
Name: Allat
Date: Sunday April 06, 2008
Time: 10:32:54 -0700
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Agnostic: You called lme a dingbat. I could calllyou worse names! Do you want the challenge. I'm game!
Name: Allat
Date: Sunday April 06, 2008
Time: 10:34:31 -0700
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Agnostic: I don't hang back. Wanna go at it!
Name: agnostic
Date: Wednesday April 09, 2008
Time: 02:33:14 -0700
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allat, you are a dingbat. Go do some reading, proper reading. Namecalling is for stupid cretin mussies. No profit in it. Wanna challenge me on comparative religion?
Name: Allat
Date: Thursday April 10, 2008
Time: 08:22:02 -0700
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Ah, I read the entire article____BRILLIANT!_______Encore. Encore.
Name: Allat
Date: Thursday April 10, 2008
Time: 08:27:54 -0700
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He, he! Agnostic: It takes one to know one.:)__________He, he, he, he.______I love you too buddy!_Don't you know that you're a mirror to myself?_____Quantum PHysics - the new science has discovered that this is a Holographic Universe.______So what's going on here, is that we have brought forth The Law of Attraction. We've attracted each other, to mirror in each of us, the qualities that we don't like in each other. We mirror each other, we need this Mirroring, in order to eliminate the unbalanced. _____________Thank you, oh, Mirror for helping me.
Name: Allat
Date: Thursday April 10, 2008
Time: 08:38:13 -0700
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Agnstic: This one's for you_______http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kmgHm88uZwQ&feature=related--------Viva el amor entre los projimos.
Name: 73rd Virgin
Date: Thursday April 10, 2008
Time: 23:05:42 -0700
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*Quran on Jews: Quran is the only non-Jewish scripture in the world where Jews have been honored and protected in so many verses (HOGWASH!!) Quran has a different Jesus, different god and a false prophet who promotes lying and following a deceiver god; The Hypocrites - they seek to deceive Allah but it is Allah Who DECEIVES them. When they stand up to prayer, they stand without earnestness, to be seen of men, but little do they hold Allah in remembrance; S. 4:142 Mohammad taught lying as a pious act;"Taqqiyah" is a technique of deception practiced by believing Muslims in order to advance the cause of Islam. It is considered a part of the Jihad strategy based on lying and deceiving unbelievers by any means. Thus exercising "taqqiyah" is very pious behavior. THERE IS NO LIE OF THE TRUTH, Therefore Islam is a LIE.
Name: you're all nuts
Date: Tuesday April 15, 2008
Time: 14:29:35 -0700
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Yes Britain really sucks up to Muslims. Thats why the Britosh governemnt bombed Iraq and Afghanistan.