Islam: The Graveyard of Morality

by Dr Omar Zia

25 May, 2009

Pakistan has recently been traumatized and severely buffeted by the Taliban and their front-man Sufi Muhammad, trying their best to bring the believing but largely non-practicing Muslims of Pakistan under the black-n-white banner of Prophet Muhammad, and all his teachings encoded in the Quran and Sunnah (prophetic tradition).

 

It was truly terrifying to watch how close these hordes of barbarians came to the levers of power, before the minority of Pakistani Ummah and a frightened world yelled the globe's seventh-biggest army into action.

Years of hypocrisy and double-think has allowed these barbarians to get a surefooted hold in large parts of northwestern Pakistan; and the fattened, Islam infected, Pakistani army is having a tough time dislodging this handful of rag-tag band of thugs.

But to be fair to the Pakistan army, they are fighting a battle with not just the Taliban but a large majority of Pakistanis who harbor a little Taliban within themselves. Just look at what Doctor Muzaffar Iqbal, a graduate from an American university and resides in America, who writes a regular column in the Daily News, wrote in one of his recent columns.

It is true that the Taliban are excessively harsh in their ways. It is also true that their understanding of Sharia is flawed. It is also true that their attitudes toward women are more tribal than Islamic, and it is also true that their way of enforcing Sharia is counterproductive, but with all of this against them, they have the distinction of being the only organized resistance against an alien force that has occupied their land. And this tilts the balance in their favor.

Let’s find out if this highly educated gentleman is correct in his claim that Sufi Mohammad and, therefore, the Taliban are flawed in their understanding of the Sharia. Just to remind readers that Sufi Mohammad never claimed to interpret Sharia other than directly from the Quran and Sunnah (Ahadiths).

Sufi Muhammad says that Jamhooriat (democracy) is kufr, because it allows equal status to men and women. According to him, men and women are not equal. Let’s see whether Prophet Muhammad and Allah agree with him. Allah says:

• Women have rights that are similar to men, but men are "a degree above them." 2:228

• A woman is worth one-half a man. 2:282

• Men are in charge of women, because Allah made men to be better than women. Refuse to have sex with women from whom you fear rebellion, and scourge them. 4:34

• Women are feeble and are unable to devise a plan. 4:98
  

Prophet Muhammad said (Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301):

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

Sufi Mohammad says Jamhooriat is kufr because it allows Muslims and non-Muslims equals’ status. He claims Islam does not allow equal status to Muslims and non Muslims. Let’s see what Allah and Prophet Muhammad have to say on that.

Allah says:

• Those who disbelieve in the revelations of Allah ... have no hope of My mercy. For such there is a painful doom.--29:23

• Allah mocks the unbelievers, "leaving them to wander blindly." 2:15

• Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. 2:98

• Only evil people are disbelievers. 2:99

• For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

The Prophet said (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57):

Narrated 'Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Sufi Mohammad says that music is haram, and wishes to ban all music and punish the perpetrators of this heinous crime. Do Allah and his prophet agree? The following Islamic scripture confirms it:

Bukhari Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v:

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari:
That he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

Also,

When Sayyidana Abdullah Ibne Mas'ood a very close companion of our Prophet was asked about the meaning of the term 'lahwal hadith', he replied “I swear by Him besides whom there is no other God that it refers to ghinaa (singing).”

This statement, he repeated three times. This view is unanimously supported by the four Khalifas, the eminent Sahabaah, Tabi'een, the four Imams and other reliable Islamic scholars and authorities.

Sufi Mohammad says pictures (including TV and movies) are haram. He is indeed correct. Just look at the number of Ahadiths which categorically denounce pictures and therefore TV, movies etc.

* On the authority of Ibn Abbas (ra) it is reported that he heard the Messenger of Allah said: "Every picture maker is in the Fire. A soul will be placed in every picture made by him and it will punish him in the Hell-fire." (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim)

* On the authority of Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) it is reported that the Messenger of Allah said: "The most severely punished of people on the Day of Resurrection will be those who try to make the like of Allah's creation." (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim)

In fact, the modern day mullahs have reaffirmed these sayings by the following fatwa. Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and an Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, answers:

"Photography as a medium of communication or for the simple, innocent retention of memories without the taint of reverence/shirk does not fall under the category of forbidden Tasweer. One finds a number of traditions from the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, condemning people who make Tasweer, which denotes painting or carving images or statues.

Sufi Muhammad and his brethren in arms mete out punishments to the deviants of Islam by beheading and publicly displaying them. Are they following in the footsteps of the Prophet? Let’s see what the Islamic scriptures tell us:

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 270:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has really hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "O Allah's Apostle! Do you like me to kill him?" He replied in the affirmative. So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to him (i.e. Ka'b) and said, "This person (i.e. the Prophet) has put us to task and asked us for charity." Ka'b replied, "By Allah, you will get tired of him." Muhammad said to him, "We have followed him, so we dislike to leave him till we see the end of his affair." Muhammad bin Maslama went on talking to him in this way till he got the chance to kill him.

"Sirat e Rasulullah" by Ishaq, page 464
After 800-900 male adults of Bani Quraiza were beheaded in batches, and thrown in trenches dug in Madina, the apostle divided their property, wives and children as booty... He took Rayhana d. Amr b. Khunafa for himself.

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 447:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
The people of (Banu) Quraiza agreed to accept the verdict of Sad bin Mu'adh. So the Prophet sent for Sad, and the latter came (riding) a donkey and when he approached the Mosque, the Prophet said to the Ansar, "Get up for your chief or for the best among you." Then the Prophet said (to Sad)." These (i..e. Banu Quraiza) have agreed to accept your verdict." Sad said, "Kill their (men) warriors and take their offspring as captives, "On that the Prophet said, "You have judged according to Allah's Judgment," or said, "according to the King's judgment."

Sufi Mohammad and his brethren in arms have killed hundreds of women and children indiscriminately with numerous suicide bombings in Pakistan. Are they following their Prophet? Very much so:

BHukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256:

Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:
The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle."

Ibn Ishaq, p. 676:

Asma bint Marwan had spoken critically of Muhammad, telling her tribe to be wary of him. She said: "'You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?' Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said,’ Will no one rid me of this woman?' Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet's wishes. That very night he crept into the writer's home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said,’ You have helped Allah and His Apostle.' Umayr said, 'She had five sons; should I feel guilty? ''No,' the Prophet answered. 'Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.'"

Sufi Muhammad and his horde of barbarians come across as particularly evil men. Do they resemble their 7th-century mentor? His ‘superb’ morality can be judged from some of the following from Islam’s own scriptures:

The History of Tabari, Vol 8, p. 29-30:

From his share of captive women, prophet gave his son-in-law, Ali a slave girl, Raytah bt Hilal to enjoy her at his will. He also presented Uthman b. Affan, his son-in-law, another slave girl Zainab b. Hayan, and bestowed another girl (name unknown) to his father -in-law Omar Ibn Khattab. Omar gave that girl to his son Abdullah. Most of Prophet's other elite companions received slave girls as gifts.

Ibn Ishaq, p. 316:

"Following Badr, Muhammad sent a number of raiders with orders to capture some of the Meccans and burn them alive."

Bukhari: V4B52N143

"When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiya was described to him. Her husband had been killed, so Allah's Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place called Sad where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.'"

Kinana, their chief, was tortured by Mohammed by lighting fire on his chest to find whereabouts of his treasury (Ishaq, p. 515). Later he was beheaded. Seventeen-year-old Safia was his beautiful wife with whom Mohammed slept the same night.

This is a sad tale. As a human and a Pakistani, my heart sinks when I think of where we are being led by following this monster. I wish I had a magic wand to remove the blinkers from the whole nation of Pakistan, and force them to read their own scriptures, and then abandon it to the dustbin of history. Then and only then they would really follow the path of modernity, equality, human rights and knowledge.

I implore to my Pakistani brethren, enough is enough! Come out of your stupor, start thinking for a change, and drop this cultic religion, which is destroying you and your future generations.

And alas! It seems it will be a long long wait, if at all that happens.

Dr. Omar Zia is a Pakistani-born ex-Muslim.

Name:
Subject:
Date: Monday May 25, 2009
Time: 10:51:52 -0400

Comment

"I implore to my Pakistani brethren, enough is enough! Come out of your stupor, start thinking for a change, and drop this cultic religion, which is destroying you and your future generations." And stop thinking of India as your enemy. Your real enemy is yourself, your Islam, your violent ideologies.

Name: Mulhid
Subject:
Date: Monday May 25, 2009
Time: 13:14:10 -0400

Comment

Splendid article from dr. Zia. Be it that muslims follow his example and begin to read their very own scriptures, realize the true nature of their "religion" and do the right thing by leaving this cult concocted by a massmurderer, robber and lecher.

Name: Joseph
Subject: Islam: Curse on Earth
Date: Monday May 25, 2009
Time: 13:52:44 -0400

Comment

I fully agree with you. But my objection to Muslims is more earthly. When I sit near they in train I almost vomit due to the stench that comes from their mouth. It is unwashed and rotten. It is this very mouth that is used to recite the notorious, evil verses of all time, the Koran. Mohammad, who called himself a prophet, was so evil that he would make a true Satan wince in shame. This evil Mohammad bastard drenched half the earth in blood ever since he came on this noble earth.

Editor: Joseph, we disagree with your suggestion that stink exudes from mouth of Muslims in general. We believe Muslims, on an average, are not much different from others in terms of cleanliness and personal hygiene. Please refrain from making such unfounded derogatory comments.

Name: Salahuddin
Subject:
Date: Monday May 25, 2009
Time: 14:48:01 -0400

Comment

This cannot be a good website considering that it has allowed the comments of Joseph. Obviously this website has no moderator and Omar Zia is definitely not a muslim as no muslim would allow such unjust behavior and coarse language. I pray that you all are guided to the straight path and that God forgives you for slandering His apostle. And I pray that you return to the religion you were born into Mr. Zia and are as big an asset as Hazrat Omar was to Islam. Quoting the Quran out of context is easy. To understand the Wisdom of God's Message is much harder and you must try it some time.

Name: balam
Subject: Islam
Date: Monday May 25, 2009
Time: 14:54:26 -0400

Comment

Thank you Dr. Zia for enlightening the readers with the wealth of knowledge about the true face of Mohammad. Sufi Mohammad represents the true face of the prophet of Islam, the 7th century god-father of Arabia. Muslims are the most hypocrite people on the face of this earth. They speak with the fork tongue like their prophet. They do not possess even an ounce of credibility, hence they can never be trusted. From the reference of Hadiths, given by Dr. Zia, one can conclude without the shadow of doubt that Mohammad was absolutely vile and evil con-man. His followers have acquired the same traits. Unfortunately, the little brain they have, is completely washed. They can not see the differance between right and wrong. They are like the dumb driven cattle. The only solution is to ban Islam, close the Mosques and stop Mulla-cracy. All the Muslims are morally, spiritually and intellectually depraved and blind. They will never change for the better. They are too coward to admit that, which is unfortunate.

Name: y.m
Subject:
Date: Monday May 25, 2009
Time: 19:18:53 -0400

Comment

A very good article by Dr, Zia. Allah through Mohd proclaimed that he will accept only Islam as religion. All others are non-believers and they will get severe punishment in this world and in the hereafter,so it follows that only Muslims will prosper, but what do we see, Muslims are the most affected by poverty, illiteracy, low level of development. Why the Muslims are deficient in so many things? I think because they waste their to much time in prayers, Does these prayers make them any better human being then kafers? absolutely not. yet these rituals make them the worse creatures on the planet and Quran has made them brain dead zomies.

Name: zenner
Subject: morality ?
Date: Monday May 25, 2009
Time: 19:35:01 -0400

Comment

whose morality is the right morality ??? moralities are as varied as societies, and not only that ,moralities are always in a flux,what was moral time ago may be immoral today, and of course vice versa...morality is a hollow word, it is conceptual and time dependent construct.. it depends on viewer's point of view.. As strange and stupid as it sounds to a westerner, exposing parts of a woman in some relgious traditions (islam AND ultraorthodox judaism) is highly immoral...but that is THEIR point of you,not mine...hence I am immoral by their standards, and they are stupid by my standards....as long as their is no "forceful" coercion (as it is in those crazy relgions), it is none of my business.. But if they try to impose "their" morality upon me...then..then ...war unfortunately becomes necessary, to defend "my morality" ..but I have no business, in assuming mine is superiour. nor do I impose mine on others. one should be free, to cover face, if she deems it necessary, that is HER business not mine...but don't impose it on me.!!or else !!

Name: duh_swami
Subject: Context? What context?
Date: Monday May 25, 2009
Time: 23:21:41 -0400

Comment

From post above: "Quoting the Quran out of context is easy".......Yes it certainly is, since it has no context...From same post: "To understand the Wisdom of God's Message is much harder and you must try it some time"....A little elitist supremacism Salahuddin? Just what is the moon gods message anyway, what I read does not sound very wise?

Name: Dr Omar Zia
Subject: To Salahuddin
Date: Monday May 25, 2009
Time: 23:30:20 -0400

Comment

Dear Salahuddin, I apologize personally for the comments made by Joseph. I do not condone them in any way. But to put them in perspective, you ought to read some comments made by believers in Islam about non believers. Just look at the language Allah has used in Quran for non believers. Who will apologize for that? Coming to your comment about Umar being an asset for Muslims. He certainly was. But he was a demon from hell for non muslims. Just look this up: (Ibn Timiyya, Vol. 28, and Ibn Hazm, Vol. 4). Umar says, "Christians should not hinder any Muslim from staying in their churches for three days during which they offer them food and serve the Muslims. They ought to give them their seats if the Muslims wish to sit down. Christians should not resemble Muslims in anything, such as their dress, tiaras, turbans or shoes or parting of the hair. They should not ride a donkey with a saddle. They must shave their foreheads. They should not display any of their (religious) books on the streets of the Muslims. They should not bury their dead next to Muslims and must not read loudly in their churches. They should not mourn loudly over their dead. They should not buy slaves who fall under the portion of Muslims Not one of them should assume any position by which he has any authority over a Muslim. If they infringe any of these terms, they lose the right of protection and it is admissible for the Muslims to treat them as people of rebellion and quarrel; that is, it is permissible to kill them. Head tax must be imposed on them, free men as well as the slaves, male or female, poor and rich and on the monks" (cited from Ibn Hazm). Ibn Timiyya also indicated that Umar Ibn al-Khattab said about the people of the covenant, "Humiliate them," because the Quran said distinctly that they should pay the head tax with humiliation (9:29). Secondly, If I am quoting the Quran out of context, can you please do all of us a favour and contextualize it for us? Or would that require too much thinking and reading on your part.

Name: balam to salahudin
Subject: josephs remarks
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 00:05:49 -0400

Comment

I am amazed at the sensitivity of Salahudin over Josephs remarks. Incredible!! How could he omit the remarks of his Horney Prophet in the Notorious Quran about the Jews and Christians who are called Apes and Swines. After reading about Mohammad, sexually assaulting a little girl Aisha, when she was only nine and the Horney prophet of Allah was 53 years, has made me respect the morals of those animals more than that of Mohammad. The pigs do not fornicate with baby piglets. Why can the worshippers of Mohammad not see that,is beyond me. Dr. Zia has enough intelligence that he will never venture back into the cult of Ignorance, Savagery, Lust, A-Morality and Mutuality in crimes-the five letters of Islam, represented by these characteristics of Muslims-The wolves of Allah.

Name: Muhamed
Subject: Dear Zenner,
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 00:47:37 -0400

Comment

Thanks for your comment. I just feel that it is my duty to add to your comment above. It is the Western culture that encourages, supports and cheers women to show more of their body. I interpret it this way, the more you show the more liberal and free you are. Over all, it is the West that has been trying to impose their culture and costumes on the Muslim world.

Name: Muhamed
Subject: Dr. Omar Zia
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 00:54:01 -0400

Comment

The pact of Umar, or “ahd ‘Umar” 2 is a key document outlining the obligations of non-Muslims living in the Muslim state and defining the relationship of dhimmis with Muslims and with the state 3 . It shows the treatment of Christians by Muslims in the Muslim state in general, and especially when Umar ibn al-Khattab was caliph. Some scholars consider this pact to be foundational for the treatment of non-Muslims and a reflection of the general teaching of Islam concerning them. This view, however, has been opposed by a number of scholars. The problem is that during some periods of Muslim history, the justification to treat Christians in a biased way was based on the pretext of implementing the negative or discriminatory aspects of the pact of Umar. However, an examination of Umar’s conduct towards non-Muslims has shown him to be extremely tolerant, and exemplary in his efforts to follow the instructions of the Qur’an and the Sunnah. Read more...http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6053592/f/The_Pact_of_Umar_.pdf

Name: No ALLA
Subject: Great Article
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 01:21:40 -0400

Comment

All Muslims should read this article. Now Muslims, all over the world telling Talibans are terrorists they are not following what Islam preaches etc. By reading this article they will realize Islam is the culprit and not talibans.

Name: Anti Clot
Subject: Pakistan and the Taliban
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 02:28:51 -0400

Comment

It is the first time that the Pakistani government takes serious action against the Taliban and I am hoping very deeply that they will eradicate this scum and that it will disappear from this planet for ever and ever!

Name: Tony
Subject: context - as per Sally Huddin
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 03:25:07 -0400

Comment

the whole Koran is a CON text; and even if one quoted a complete sewer, it would be out of context with the other sewers! so you have to quote the whole book every time you need a teaching... no wonder Islam prevents logical thinking.

Name: A. Khan
Subject: Dr Omar Zia- please stop manipulating teh truth
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 04:50:08 -0400

Comment

Why do you have to lie sir? I see from the article that you have not quoted verses from the Quran. The Hadeeths that you quoted are being used out of their contexts. I will be more specific, BHukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256 does not in any form imply that it is permissible to attack women or children. In fact this hadeeth is listed among so many other hadeeths that forbid killing of women and children. Here is the link sir: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2463598/Sahih-Bukhari-Vol-4

Name: Robert King
Subject: Muhammad the Prophet of Atrocities
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 04:57:43 -0400

Comment

If what I read is true, I think Muhammad is a crazy MONSTER who created ALLAH to allow & justify him to commit atrocities & mass murders. Muhammad was a BANDIT, KIDNAPPER, KILLER, MURDERER, SLAVE MASTER, PEDOPHILE, SEX MANIAC, IMPOSTER, PSYCHOPATH. He was a sick man who cannot accept those who don't believe in him. Muhammad cannot be the Messenger of a Loving & Gracious God. How can Muslims glorify such a heinous man??? Muslim extremists protect Muhammad by do NOT tolerating any criticism of this mad bastard who is just a human being.

Name: balam to R obert King
Subject: Mohammad
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 06:48:09 -0400

Comment

Your comments about Mohammad are absolutely correct.Excellent analysis of the beast of Arabia.

Name: Dr Omar Zia
Subject: To Mr A Khan
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 07:25:13 -0400

Comment

Dear Mr Khan, I think you have got your source wrong. Here is the address for going straight to Sahih Bukhari translation. Please go to it. You would find that it is not me who is lying but you who is not literate enough. As for any of the verses not being from the Quran, can you prove to me a single verse please which I have quoted and which you cannot find in the quran? If you can I shall ask the site manager to remove all my articles.

Name: Dr Omar Zia
Subject: To Mr A Khan
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 07:26:13 -0400

Comment

Sorry I forgot to give you the address> here it is.

Name: Ayesha Ahmed
Subject: Excellent article
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 11:30:34 -0400

Comment

You said it all when you wrote "As a human and a Pakistani, my heart sinks when I think of where we are being led by following this monster".

Name: Robert
Subject:
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 11:50:14 -0400

Comment

I bet Joseph must have been talking to a fasting muslim in the afternoon.

Name: Pelagius of Asturias
Subject: From Europe to Asia, Islam is a nuissance!
Date: Tuesday May 26, 2009
Time: 13:11:15 -0400

Comment

Dr. Omar Zia, Bravo!!! Your article goes right to the core of things, in Pakistan as well as the world in general. Accepting what your parents and your society is teaching as truth is easy, unlearning it in favor of the real truth is very hard! The muslims will struggle with this for a long and bloody time, but will in the end recognize what is up and what is down. Islam will fare no better than Nazism and communism, luckily!In the meantime it is very easy for nonmuslims to despair and fall into cowardice over the appaling odds. But we must meet Islam as Leonidas once met Xerxes, as freedom greets tyrani, with contempt!! But also we must acknowledge muslims as our fellowmen and welcome those who abandon their inherited lunacy. Man is evil, yet whishes to do good! This is a paradox as old as mankind itself and it will stay with us to the end of time. This is our damnation and salvation! So keep your banners high and fight the good fight! Regards P

Name: Omar Zia
Subject: This response is to the editor on Joseph's comment
Date: Wednesday May 27, 2009
Time: 01:28:59 -0400

Comment

Dear Editor, I disagree with you sir. “We believe Muslims, on an average, are not much different from others in terms of cleanliness and personal hygiene” please answer the following questions: 1. Do the non Muslims wash them selves 5 times a day like Islam require from Muslims to do. 2. Do the non Muslims have to clean themselves after intercourse like Islam require from Muslims to do. 3. Do non Muslims have to cut the cubic hair and under the arms like Islam require Muslims to do? The answer is NO. Therefore the non Muslims are not the same as the Muslims.

Name: duh_swami
Subject: Cleanliness
Date: Wednesday May 27, 2009
Time: 10:32:44 -0400

Comment

Do non Muslims take more showers and use more soap than Muslims? I don't know the answer to that, but an educated guess would be no they don't. They clean certain parts of their bodies very well, but possibly not the rest of it. Muslims living in the west have access to both showers and soap, but I don't know how many understand the concept of 'showering', since it's not mentioned in the Quran, but Mohammad used water to clean with as is reported in many Hadith...So if Muslims are not showering regularly, they should be...If they are not, then they are different from kufrs...

Name: I.M. Joe
Subject: Pakistan
Date: Wednesday May 27, 2009
Time: 13:06:26 -0400

Comment

I lived in Lahore for three years working on dams as an engineer. I learned a lot about Islam and read the Koran to better understand what makes these people tick. I've come to the conclusion that the Pakistani people will never stand up to the Taliban or any other Islamist group. I found them to admire Talibanis, and their newspaper columnists and opinion writers , professors and even Islamic block polititians all confirm their admiration for Taliban and their (mostly) hatred for the government. The Pak army is full of Islamists who ave no heart at all for fighting their fellow Islamists, and the past generation now generals know this. Pakistan will be lost to the Taliban unless outside forces take them ut completely.

Name: I.M. Joe
Subject: Zenner
Date: Wednesday May 27, 2009
Time: 13:19:09 -0400

Comment

Moral relativism at its best, right here. You will not distiguish between a man who thinks infidels and Jews should be killed for refusing Allah's messenger, making them enemies of Allah; you cannot distinguish between Jesus, who said "Turn the other cheek," and Mohammed, who said, "Smite their necks" (which a lot of practicing Muslims seem to enjoy; and watching those beheadings on their Islamists sites is a great source of entertainment for them). No problem mutilating a girls genetils so she'll feel no desitre for sex, and when she does have it she won't enjoy it. Yep, Zenner, that is certainly a culture right on par with mine - who am I to judge. I think it's people like you whop are dangerous to the survival of the West.

Name: Ali
Subject: Mo had lice and bathed in dirty water
Date: Wednesday May 27, 2009
Time: 13:24:17 -0400

Comment

Mo, the prophet of muslims was not a clean man judging from hadiths.. Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 87, Number 130: Allah's Apostle used to visit Um Haram bint Milhan she was the wife of 'Ubada bin As-Samit. One day the Prophet visited her and she provided him with food and started looking for lice in his head. Abu Dawood ,Book 1, Number 0066: Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: The people asked the Messenger of Allah (peace_be_upon_him): Can we perform ablution out of the well of Buda'ah, which is a well into which menstrual clothes, dead dogs and stinking things were thrown? He replied: Water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Abu Dawood,Book 1, Number 0067: Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah (peace_be_upon_him): Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Name: Tabris
Subject:
Date: Wednesday May 27, 2009
Time: 17:50:38 -0400

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Don't hate the German but detest nazism Don't hate the Russian but despise communism Don't hate the Muslim but loathe islam Three evil doctrines invented to torment and destroy people souls. Have pitty on people in the claws of these doctrines. We all know where they will end up eventually. Don't hate them or you will end up in the same place yourself.

Name: Andrew Stunich
Subject: Question for Salahuddin (see his previous post above)
Date: Wednesday May 27, 2009
Time: 22:15:31 -0400

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Salahuddin, how can anyone slander Muhammad? What terrible thing could be said about him that he did not actually do? Slander suggests, at a minimum, saying something untrue about another. Did Muhammad not steal his adopted son's wife? Did he not rape captive women and give them to others to rape as well? Did he not have sex with a nine year old girl? Did he not have critics murdered? Did he not order war against people whose only "crime" was to not believe his absurd claim to be God's Messenger? Did he not say things about women that has caused them to suffer terribly for more than 1,400 years? How can you believe that a man with Muhammad's example could be God's messenger? From where do you draw your faith? Please do not give the tired answer that it is the "beauty of the Quran." A more poorly organized and more poorly written document could not be written. The content is straight from the worst that can be found in men's hearts. All that can be said is that some of the early verse, when rendered in Arabic, rhymed, but if that is a sign of God's hand then we should start reading Dr. Seuss' children's books to discover God's will for man. So, please tell me, what slanderous thing can be said of a man that, as to Muhammad, is not true?

Name: zenner
Subject: to IM joe
Date: Thursday May 28, 2009
Time: 00:19:15 -0400

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you are making erroneous inferences from my post... on the contrary,I am profoundly pro west..I respect the freedom of opinions, and if I had to choose a so called "morality", it might be buddhism.. (very simiiar to christian teachings ,without the nonesense, of resurrection, vrigin birth, angels and all that childish hulabaloo) mutilation of children, killing infidels, forcefull conversions (islamic violent and unacceptable warfare etc.. have never been on my list... If a woman chooses to wear a "hijab"..as long as it is not forced on her...than it is HER business not mine...this is true freedom, this is why west has prospered.. but I draw the line,when such acts are "imposed" on those who do not wish to wear the "hijab".. The minute they (islam or any other relgion) start to "impose" or coerce, than our freedoms are in jeopardy, and that is unacceptable.. It takes more than education, to make people see the flagrant nonesense that lies in their religions, people are born into those relgions and "conditioned", the few brave ones ,despite their ,birth into a relgion, culture, do rise above the narrow and shallow constraints,and see that we are all one, we only have been seperated by conceptuality... first education, then the hard part comes," deconditioing"...and of course not everybody is lucky enough to possess the wisdom to arise above those aspects. if you were born in saudi arabia, you would be talking differently, rising above the fences, is crucial, in order to see all sides,and to seek for the welfare of all, and to see into the futility of all those monstreous relgious "conditionings".. true morality, is to rise above all sectarian, societal and religious moralities...and seek the welfare of all, without any imposition of any particular ideology .. This why ,I am against islamic attitude of interfering (putting it mildly) with one's decision to leave islam...the decision should be his and his alone..

Name: John
Subject: Moral Religion
Date: Saturday May 30, 2009
Time: 11:55:58 -0400

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Many religions have gods that define morality. What is moral is then not determined by whether or not it enhances the human experience of life, but whether or not the god (reputedly) likes it. So morality becomes detached from its effects. What is "good" can easily cause death, pain and ignoble suffering, because morality is not defined by it's effect, but by the dictates of a god. Is it good to kill people with hidden bombs? Not if we just consider the act itself and its outcome. But if we accept that good and bad is defined by a god, then killing people with hidden bombs can be good... if the god says to do it. The Hindu religion has an analog. in the Bhagavagita, Arjuna laments the upcoming battle with his kinsmen. He wonders how it can be moral to make war on them and kill them. Krishna appears, and assures him that earthly life is an illusion, and that he can kill with confidence that he's not really hurting anything significant. Jesus, one of the Christian gods, also calls for obedience to his principles over the human perception of morality. He advises people to hate their parents for his sake. Is killing your son a good thing? It can be... if you are Abraham/Ibrahim, and a god tells you to kill your son. It's a good thing to be willing to do evil things at the behest of a god. It shows that you recognize the transcendent nature of the god. All gods in the Western/Mideast mode demand things that hurt people. That's their apparent function in human society. People want to hurt each other... for issues like political competition, and since hurting others in war is demonstratably unproductive, the gods need to okay our activity. Once the god commands it, you may then go cause pain and suffering. The more in line you are with the transcendent nature of the god, the less you need examine your actions in light of human suffering. Some say there is a god on every side of every war. I don't know of anything that contradicts that.

Name: CrazyIslm
Subject: Islamis4crazies
Date: Sunday May 31, 2009
Time: 09:49:28 -0400

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The contrived logic to justify means in Islm is obvious, to believe it has got to be a type of insanity--The stupidity of it is sad so many believe it. Who dosen't go to hell in Islam?