Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

SILENT GRIEF OF THE WORSHIPPERS OF DEATH

by Sujit Das

27 April, 2008

[A note to the readers: This article is to be read with an open mind, and not for the agreement or disagreement it provokes but for the thought it invokes. Thank you.]

 

 

       

 

Whenever I feel lonely, I sit in silence and look back nostalgically on my golden childhood days. During those days, there was hardly any fun available for children – no television, no computer games, no Harry Potter. But we had something really valuable that today’s children of nuclear families rarely have. We had loving grandparents almost in every home who used to tell us bedtime stories. One such story that I heard from my grandmother, is still vivid in my mind.

There was a handsome young man in a village who was always happy. But one day his mood changed. He looked sad all the time. His mother noticed the change in her son.

 

‘Son’, she said. ‘Why are you sad’?

 

The son explained what bothered him. He had fallen in love with a beautiful woman in the next village and wanted to marry her. But, this woman was as beautiful as she was wicked. She would only marry a man who would bring her a human heart, still fresh and warm, as a gift.

 

The son looked at his mother and said, “Mother, I will kill myself if I do not marry her…”

 

The mother knew straight away what must be done. She loved her son as much a mother ever loved a son. She went to her kitchen, took a knife and advised her son to cut her heart out. The stupid son, blind in love for the cruel woman, did not give a single thought, cut his mother’s heart, wrapped it in a thick cloth to present it to his beloved.

 

The son was in a hurry and ran towards the door as fast as possible. Just then he tripped and fell and the heart fell out of his hands. And the young man cried out aloud, “Ah! I’m hurt! My knee!”

 

And the mother’s heart cried out aloud, “My son! Are you all right”?

 

This tale has a deep impression on me. It carries the message that parental love towards their children is unconditional. It’s a natural pattern of behavior. Therefore, the parents love their children even when they least deserve to be loved. It’s Divine, as a Jewish proverb goes like this, “God could not be everywhere and therefore He made mothers.” Children are God’s heritage. The greatest trust that a couple can receive from God is to be blessed with a new life so frail, so dependent and so sweet. Parents have a sacred obligation to the God to rear their children in love and righteousness and hence should make its care a top priority.

But strange enough, we get a complete different picture when we look at those Muslim families, where parents celebrate publicly if their child had successfully killed himself in a suicide mission along with many other innocent victims. Often this celebration is like a wedding ceremony, where hundreds of friends and neighbors flock to the home and parents of the deceased child distribute sweets with broad smile on their faces. The neighbors and friends congratulate the joyful parents on the death of their child. Parents and siblings often speak of their pride and honored by the society.

 

        

 

There are several reported incidents, available from reliable sources and published on newspapers with photographs, hence Muslims cannot deny them. One such abnormal Muslim mother of a suicide bomber reported to have said, "The best Mother's day present I got this year was the death as a shahid [martyr] of Abbas" as quoted in the official Palestinian Authority daily, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, on March 21, 2001 (cited Pipes, 2001).

Zahra Maladan, an educated woman who edits a women's magazine in Lebanon, was quoted in the New York Times giving the following warning to her son, "if you're not going to follow the steps of the Islamic resistance martyrs, then I don't want you." (cited Dershowitz, 2008).

Mabrook Idris, the mother of the first female Palestinian suicide bomber, proudly declared, “I am proud that my daughter died for Palestine, proud that she gave her life for us all. Thank God. Thank God.” (Richardson, 2006; p. 163)

After a 22 year old suicide bomber killed 21 Israelis at a Tel Aviv discotheque, his father announced: "I am very happy and proud of what my son did and, frankly, am a bit jealous... I wish I had done it myself." (Pipes, 2001).

Another Tel Aviv suicide bomber's father was proud about his son, "He has become a hero! Tell me, what more could a father ask?" (Pipes, 2001).

In January, 2006, terrorist group Hamas announced that, for Palestinian parliamentary elections, one of its candidates was Umm Nidal. The only claim to fame of Umm Nidal was that she proudly sent three of her sons to die for Allah in terrorist attacks against Israeli targets.

Umm Nidal is reported (cited Spencer, 2005, p. 102) to have said, “Because I love my son, I encouraged him to die a martyr’s death for the sake of Allah …. jihad is a religious obligation incumbent upon us, and we must carry it out.” And elsewhere, “I prayed from the depths of my heart that Allah would cause the success of his operation… I encouraged all my sons to die a martyr's death, and I wish this even for myself”. When the operation was over, the media broadcast the news and Umm Nidal was informed of her son’s death, she began to cry. Tears of joy rolled down from her eyes on her son’s death. (MEMRI, 2002)

Ikrima Sabri, the PA's ranking religious leader, said, "The younger the martyr, the greater and the more I respect him," while praising mothers who "willingly sacrifice their offspring for the sake of freedom." (Pipes, 2001)

In one Islamic school, the words to a children's song go, "How pleasant is the smell of martyrs, how pleasant is the smell of land, the land enriched by the blood, the blood pouring out of a fresh body." (Pipes, 2001).

A twelve year old Palestinian child, Abu Ali wished, "I hope to be a Martyr...I hope when I get 14 or 15 to explode myself." His mother Om Muhammad gives him training with a toy suicide bomber costume and is proud of her son, “I encourage him, and he should do this”. (Jeff, 2004)

And lastly, no wonder, Present Bush is shocked, “I just cannot understand this”. (Pipes, 2001)

But Mr. Bush, you are not thunderstruck alone. Apparent denial of the primal human urge to protect one’s young just gives a shock to the civilized people, because it’s just unbelievable for them and it upsets their logical way of thinking. It is beyond the capacity of any sane man to understand. Many people regard it as reprehensible to even think about it, because we are used to see a different kind of parenthood and a civilized society consists of highly protective child-centered households.

Is it possible that the powerful beliefs and practices, sanctioned by the norms of Islam can cause such a brainwashing, so that even the parents rejoice at the death of their children, celebrate and dance in joy on the premature graves of their own children? Is it really possible that a certain section of human race, who calls themselves Muslims, has lowered themselves to the lowermost level of lowest grade animals to satisfy their God? Muslims call themselves slaves of Allah, but again, how much loyalty Allah demands? What all the Godly qualities Allah possesses? We all know that wildlife is slowly decreasing in the jungles but should we start believing that it is rapidly increasing amongst Muslim families?

The relationship between mother and child is of a special category and sacred. The child is a part of its mother’s physical being before birth and continues to be dependent upon her (or a substitute) for a considerable period subsequently. Undoubtedly, the development of artificial feeding has modified this close dependence, but experience in rearing motherless infants has shown that the deprivation of close continuous contact with a mother figure in early infancy produces adverse result. The mother figure can be any suitable person, and experiments with monkeys have shown that for them even a small length of wire or a piece of cloth can serve as ‘mothers’ in some senses. (Seals, 1968; p. 302, 303). The relationship between a father and his daughter is also sacred because this is the only relationship, where there is complete lack of acrimony and conflict (Jayaram & Saberwal, 1996, p. 38).

The death celebration of the young martyrs by their parents will even shock the animal world, leave aside humans. With some exceptions e.g pigs often eat their own offspring (Hitchens, 2007. p. 38, Wikipedia, 2008a) and also female wolf spiders that often consume their young (Anon, 2007); cannibalistic infanticide of newborn offspring, by a mother animal is rare. The animals in general, love and protect their young like humans. In birds and lower mammals (for example, rats), mothers and offspring are bound together by mechanisms which appear to be largely biological and ‘instinctive’. For animals these actions are performed in a highly standardized and stereotyped way. But, for higher mammals and humans such material behavior is no longer entirely biological and automatic but dependent on complex learning process and hence cultural; as Hurd (1986, p. 202) has observed, there is a wide variety of ways of treating children, ranging from neglect and selective infanticide in some societies, to the highly protective, child-centered households of modern western societies. In short, although there is a physical dependence between a mother and her offspring, material behavior is largely learnt from the customs, values and beliefs of the society; as these differ, so do the relations between mother and child. Our experience shows; the customs, beliefs and ethical values of the Muslim society are, to a vast extent, different from that of a non-Muslim society. But Hurd’s sociological theory does not explain everything in details, and hence it is intended to look at Durkhem’s famous work on social integration for further understanding.

We are social animals and hence, without ‘social integration’ (the nature of social links which attach individuals to social groups outside themselves), we cannot survive. As per Durkheim (1897; p.209), the three groups that have the qualities of social integration are the family group, the religious group, and the political or national group.

Out of the above three groups, family is the basic unit of society and the most important primary group to mankind (Jayaram & Saberwal, 1996, p. 29). It is also the strongest one amongst all the above three groups. Though the word ‘family’ has its origin in a Latin word which could be roughly equated a ‘domestic group’, but for sociological purposes, family and domestic groups are sharply distinguished. A domestic group may be made of individuals between no kinship ties exist, but in a family the members are either related by biological or legal kinship or lawful sexual intercourse. (Seals, 1968. p. 302). In a family, each member is expected to play a certain role which might change according to age. Here each member has some expectations from other members and from the family as a whole. Also the family itself has some expectations from each member.

When everyone is playing their roles and all these expectations are fulfilled to a reasonable extent, the members are happy and this is what we call a happy family. As Feldman & Scherz (1967, p. 67) concluded, “The healthy family carries out explicit and implicit roles, appropriately according to age, competence and needs during all the different stages of family life”. The members of a happy family hardly look for solace elsewhere and hence it is very rare that they would be a part of an orthodox religious group. There is hardly any religious fanaticism amongst those who lead happy family life. To continue with the above quotation about an unhappy family, “The disturbed family experiences serious difficulty in the management of roles” 

Now, if we look at the Muslim families, we will find that, throughout the history of Islam, Muslim families are often unhealthy and unhappy due to several reasons. As Tolstoy (cited Anderson & Carter, 1984. p. 137) observed, “All happy families resemble each other, each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way”. There is lack of education, poor work ethics, polygamy, concubinage, lack of finance, mindless superstitious beliefs, domestic violence, large families, slavery of women folks, monotonous daily rituals etc, make those families backward, unproductive and unhealthy. As per one prepublication overview (cited Allen & Thomas, 2000. p. 409) from World Bank report, “Poor countries --- and poor people --- differ from rich ones not only because they have less capital, but they have less knowledge”. This is the biggest problem the Muslims are facing today. Since the structure of a Muslim family varies from place to place; the sources, the nature and the consequences of conflict within it are obviously varied. As a family is the basic unit of society, hence conflict within the family has far reaching consequences for the wider social fabric.

A Muslim family is dominated by male authority which is prescribed and supported by Sha’ria law. It really developed a device where a family is under the private ownership of property of a male member. Even a modern individual Muslim family is founded on the open or concealed domestic slavery of the wife. An educated Muslim wife is nothing but a ‘darling little slave’ and the married status permits the man to benefit from the fruits of woman’s work.

In addition to the above, often coercion is used as an instrument of resolution of differences. Domestic violence, either psychological or physical, remains a method of resolving husband-wife differences (Jayaram & Saberwal, 1996, p. 101). In a Muslim family, domestic violence is always directed against women. Sadly, not only by the husband (as prescribed in Qur’an 4:34), but by the son also.

 Quotes (cited Allen and Thomas, 2000. p. 69) from poor backward married women in Bangladesh.

 

“A good wife is one who makes sure her husband has enough to eat”

 “If a woman eats before her husband, she shortens his life”

 “When I can, I give my husband and sons more. Men don’t understand if food runs short, so I wait till they have eaten. ”

 “If there is less, I eat less. You have to feed the men more or they beat you. Even my son beats me if there is not enough food.”

 

Any sane person will die in shame, but for Muslims, it makes no difference. In civilized societies, the available food, if insufficient, is evenly consumed by all family members together, because the age-old truth is, ‘The family that eats together, stays together’; but unfortunately our Muslim brothers will never understand this.

Not only in Bangladesh, but in other poor Islamic countries, the situation is almost same if not worse. The mother, as Gandhi (cited Khoshoo, 1995, p. 25) had viewed, “she creates, cares, shares and does not destroy”, definitely deserves a better respect. But amongst Muslims, the man takes the lion’s share of the diet rejecting his wife and mother even gets bashed up by her son over some food. Islam is a shame on humanity.

The family as a system of roles is an important theme in the literature of family analysis. As Goode (1964, p. 1) wrote, “In all known societies, almost everyone lives his life enmeshed in a network of family rights and obligations called role relations. A person is made aware of his role relations through a long period of socialization during his childhood, a process in which he learns how others in his family expect him to behave, and in which he himself comes to feel this is both the right and desirable way to act ”. In a Muslim family, the male child grows up seeing his mother regularly being beaten up by his father. He simply continues the tradition by believing that this what ‘others in his family expect him to behave’. And the tradition of woman slavery carried on unabated.

A report (cited Goodwin, 1994; p. 44) concerning the status of women in Pakistan concluded, “The average women is born into near slavery, leads a life of drudgery, and dies invariably in oblivion.”

Child abuse by their parents is also sanctioned in Islam. As per Sunan Abu Dawud Book 2, Number 0495, The Apostle of Allah (PBUH) said: Command your children to pray when they become seven years old, and beat them for it (prayer) when they become ten years old; and arrange their beds (to sleep) separately.

The sacred relationships between mother / son and brother / sister often get a new definition in Islam. During 11th century, the Ismailis (a radical sect of Islam) used to live without law, as Lewis (1967, p. 2) wrote, “[the Ismailis] make use of all women [for sex] without distinction including their mothers and sisters”. Sexual relationships with own mother and sister is just unthinkable to a right-minded person, but there is enough proof that at least one sect of Islam, the Ismailis had practiced this regularly sometime in the recorded history of Islam. It is also recorded in history, that those Ismailis were actually fundamentalist Muslims, who most probably, were more loyal to Allah than any other Muslims throughout the Islamic history.

On top of this there are honor killings which are intended to purify the family from its shame. Hence, brothers kill sisters, cousins kill cousins, fathers kill daughters, mother kills sons, and even sons kill mothers.

Now, in this situation, many people are over-absorbed into the web of religious society, which is the second strongest group for social integration. Here the social life is completely focused on the ethics of religious group, the individual ego is overwhelmed by the religious ego and own individual expression may not be permitted. People live in such a close proximity of one another that their social customs and beliefs tend to be unified.

When there is an over indulgence in religious beliefs (of any religion), the individual either becomes a Saint or a Satan. It depends on the teachings of the religious group and to what extent an individual is indoctrinated. Our experience shows, a Christian or Buddhist or Hindu, with deep and sincere religious devotion; can become one Mother Teresa, Dalai Lama or Gandhi. But in cult scenes and in Islam, we get leaders like, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Joseph Kony, Ayatollah Khomeini, Osama Bin Laden, Ahmadinejad, Mullah Omar etc. We cannot say Dalai Lama, Mother Teresa or Gandhi is more religious and more sincere than Osama Bin Laden, Ahmadinejad or Mullah Omar. The argument is about something else – what are the teachings (and demands) of that religious group?    

In former case, no matter how much religious indoctrination is there, the individuals are capable of free thinking and reasoning. For them, the art of reasoning becomes the first importance over all religious expectations. But in the later case; the individual has very little independence from group life. Here, individual has no private life that is immune from collective surveillance and they are available to social claims upon their allegiance. The individual existence, by itself, has very little meaning; because the reasoning faculty which is inbuilt in an individual is skillfully destroyed by the religious society, so much so that the very word ‘logic’ appears ‘illogical’ to them. This is what we call ‘fanaticism’, As Churchill (cited Copi & Cohen, 1994. p.200) concluded, “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and would not change the subject”. Collective supervision and strict surveillance extend throughout this society, leading to similarity in beliefs and social observance.

For this reason; life under a cult and under Islam cannot make progress and hence stagnated. As Pilon (cited Copi & Cohen, 1994. p. v) wrote, “Civilized life depends upon the success of reason in social intercourse, the prevalence of logic over violence in interpersonal conflict”. Islam like other cults builds up an "exit cost" of leaving the group. In fact, this is one of the greatest defining features of a cult. The harder it is to leave, the more dangerous the cult. In Islam, the punishment for apostasy is death.

This is how the individualism under Islam is under-developed. The individual is deprived of his natural liberty, which as per Gandhi (cited Khoshoo, 1995, p. 51) is “the starvation of soul”. At certain moment, the religious society often demands a testimony or witness to that faith. In Islam, this is ‘martyrdom’, which is thus an evidence of his loyalty to Islamic faith and his readiness to suffer and die for it (Lewis, 2003; p. 33).

Durkheim (1897; p. 219) observed, “[At this time] the weight of the society is brought to bear on the individual to destroy themselves” and the individual mentally prepares himself for the obligation of his faith, ie, Jihad – the Holy war, to kill and die for Allah. As Ayatollah Khomeini said (cited Dershowitz, 2008) in a speech: "It is the zenith of honor for a man, a young person, boy or girl, to be prepared to sacrifice his life in order to serve the interests of his nation and his religion." When these duties are carried out, society confers a social honor upon them that is thought to extend to the afterlife. A sacrifice for Islam is pretty different from a patriotic sacrifice or a social sacrifice. As Dawkins (2006, p. 306) had viewed; in the later two cases, the ‘rational calculation’ is not silenced as in the former case. A sacrifice for Allah is nothing but a mindless violence.   

But the irony of the situation is that, it never comes to the mind of the individual that the cleric himself does not practice what he preaches. This is the height of mind-control capability of Islam. The leaders or the planners of a suicide attack never offer their own children as martyr. When a suggestion was made to one such planner, the planner, Sheikh Yassin replied smartly by saying, “We do not choose the martyrs to die. Allah chooses them” (Richardson, 2006; p. 158). 

In excessive fanaticism, the individual sacrifices his life for he actually felt the ‘joy of sacrifice’ (Morrison, 1995; p. 179). To act in this way, the individual literally must have no meaningful family life of his or her own (at least, s/he should believe so or s/he should be convinced so by the cleric), since only after death does the individual believe that his or her true being has been realized.

In further extreme cases of fanaticism, this ‘joy of sacrifice’ extends to the parents as well. The worshippers of death happily teach their children to idealize death and to view it as a positive. In many cases, the children are told that death is not end at all, but rather the beginning of a new life. And after a successful suicide mission, the parents rejoice at the death of their children and celebrate the death. They also expect to be praised by the neighbors, friends and relatives on their child’s premature death. This is how Islam wants to give a new meaning to the parental love. The true unconditional parental love, which is a natural pattern of behavior, is suppressed by Islam. This is another proof that Islam is a cult, not a religion. But a doubt again rose in our minds. If parental love is divine, how it can be suppressed by a cult which glorifies hate? There is obviously a struggle between the two and the Divine law must win.

Yes, ultimately the Divine Law indeed wins.

The Muslim mother, like any other mother, carries her child for the nine months while the child grows inside her. She is also a mother and a human like a western mother, who undoubtedly loves her son. The Muslim parents have ambitions for their children which are different from those in the West. These parents want the child to become a suicide bomber, because it is a demand from Islam. Islam had damaged their rational faculty and caused them to rejoice at their children’s death. Hence, it is not the parents who should be blamed, but the satanic cult, Islam, itself. There is no doubt that parental love is Godly and, there is absolutely no doubt that Muslim parents are not an exception. After all, Muslims are also Human beings and possess Human values. It is the misfortune of the civilized world that a certain section of Human race has lost their Human values that are subdued by the ‘cult mind-control’ tactics of Islam. It is the sacred duty of the civilized world to liberate the Muslims from the captivity of Islamic cult. It is absolutely unnecessary, that while looking at Muslims we should act like a ‘gutter inspector’. Gandhi and Mother Teresa never taught us this. Christ hated the sin (John 8:11, Hebrews 1:9) but loved the sinner (Luke 23:34). Saint Augustine (The City of God, Book 14, Chapter 6) wrote, “… neither hate the man because of his vice, nor love the vice because of the man, but hate the vice and love the man”

The Muslim parents certainly mourn at the loss of their beloved children. But they have to do it silently, away from ‘collective surveillance’ and public eyes. The clerics always keep a vigilant eye so that the lamentations are not reported. And this is where the Divine Law wins ultimately.

A true mother may be momentarily scared of Allah and hellfire, but this does not last long because the ‘mother instinct’ comes to senses very soon. As example, the mother of the first female Palestinian suicide bomber, Mabrook Idris initially declared in front of the media, “I am proud that my daughter [Wafa] died for Palestine, proud that she gave her life for us all. Thank God. Thank God”. As word of Wafa’s death and her mother’s happy expression spread through Television and newspaper, the leaders of Al-Aqsa arrived at her home in Ramallah with sweets and posters emblazoned with photographs of Wafa. Initially the atmosphere was joyous and the festival was going well – a neighbor described it as, ‘a wedding with eternity’, but shortly, however, the mother could not act anymore. The moment she regained her faculty, she broke into uncontrollable tears and confessed openly in front of the guests, “If I had known what she was going to do, I would have stopped her, I grieve for my daughter.” (Richardson, 2006; p. 163).

Similarly, the father of Ayat al-Akhras, another 16 year old female suicide bomber, used almost the same words, “Had I known she was planning to do such a thing, I would have locked the door and thrown away the key.” (Richardson, 2006; p. 163). Another male member of Ayat’s family, lamented, “May God forgive her for what she has done” (Wikipedia, 2008b)

The mother of another suicide bomber Ribhi Kahlout told Nasra Hassan (a researcher on suicide bomber’s mindset) that had she learned of her son’s plans, “I would have taken a cleaver, cut open my heart, and stuffed him deep inside. Then I would have sewn it up tight to keep him safe” (Richardson, 2006; p. 163).

Was Gandhi wrong when he said, “There are times when you have to obey a call which is the highest of all i.e., the voice of conscious even though such obedience may cost many a bitter tears… for this obedience is the law of our being” ? (Khoshoo, 1995. p. 51).

And, when such momentarily misguided Muslim parents shed few drops of genuine tears for their departed child, the Humanity triumphs over Islamic fanaticism, the Divine truth triumphs over the satanic deception and the religion of God triumphs over the cult of the Devil. At the very moment their all sins are washed away with tears. The real God of Humankind cries with those misguided Muslim parents who are innocent captives and the brainwashed victims of the Islamic cult. After all, every parent has a sacred obligation to the God to rear their children with a top priority and not to wish their death. Islam created a barrier for which, those misguided parents could not do their duties.

And, this is where Islam fails miserably. Islam fails because it is abnormal and unnatural. Islam is a satanic cult in the guise of a religion. It’s a cult of death. A cult has no Divine touch. The real God has nothing to do with Allah, Qur’an or Islam; these are produced in the workshop of Devil. If our God demands bloodshed and death of our own children, then certainly we are not created by that God. Islam teaches something which is contrary to the normal and beyond the expectation of God from His creation. Islam separates the child from the parents, the brother from the sister. Islam destroys a happy family, a healthy society and ultimately a mighty nation. Islam demands blood, preaches hate. In the kingdom of God only love is real and there is no place for hate.

 

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  • Name: Does Islam make stupid?
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 04:26:54 -0700

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  • Name: ZuK
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 08:24:57 -0700

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Dear Sujit, when Spanish Conquistadores arrived to the Americas and saw the 'pagan' ways of the aborigins, they decided, among other things, to kill their children, having previously baptized them. Their religious logic - if there is such a thing, such an oximoron - was flawless: baptism guaranteed the infants' entrance to eternal Paradise, whereas their early death prevented them from being led astray from the right path. There is nothing illogic to what they did, once one accepts the stupifying premises of religious thinking, that requires that you abandon common sense, logic and inquiry to follow revealed, unquestioned and unquestionable "truths." Ditto about Indian widow burning and varnas, Jewish militant religious autism, and a long and painful "etc." Sure, as your article shows, deep inside there IS such a thing like a Conscience, which is just another word for "instinct of socio-psycho-biological adequacy." But religion (RELIGION in general!) muffles it in the name of pleasing the unseen Gods. And here is where the path to de-humanization starts. I envision a world permeated by the true freedom of religion - which means, first and foremost, the possibility of being free FROM religion.

  • Name: bobby
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 08:29:24 -0700

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Question - Does Islam makes people wicked or is it simply that wicked people follow Islam? I think it is both. You cannot remain a muslim if you are a nice person and people who are fed islamic junk all through childhood become brain-dead zombies who idolize mohammed and his evil teachings. Islam is also a nice seemingly legitimate excuse for people to indulge in killings, looting and then call them selves religious, simply carrying out their religious duties.

  • Name: Allat
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 08:33:17 -0700

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Oh, the end made me cry._________Apart for the culprits of any religion, the clerics - (while xtinaity has been defanged - islam is a pit viper) __________and those clerics know how to keep their lifelihood going. Strange that it's NOT educated men - from seminars that keep the show going.________I'm convinced that it's the sound vibrations from the chanting of the words that work on the brain - listen, JUST like the Gregorian chants chanted in early morning while the person is NOT alert and wide awake work on the brain. IT'S THE VIBRATIONS. And vibrations carry INTENT.__________How about someone reading this - with a medical background do a STUDY on this idea? It would be a further research on Quantum Physics.----------Sound carries intention....compare the unphysical clout of a word @*&%*! - compared to the word "honey" when one receives the sound..how does one feel? That's like the compulsory madrassas on the brain of the young boys....not to mention the constant repetitions of the WORDS in the koran--every Friday...AN ANONYMOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL STUDY...from a DISTANCE.---of course.

  • Name: bobby
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 08:42:53 -0700

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Medieval history is replete with barbarism and cruel practices. But lets focus on today. Today civilized countries all over the world have more or less accepted the equality of mankind and do not discriminate on the basis of religious beliefs. You do not have attack someones personal religious beliefs if they keep it personal and source of spirituality for them. So I do not agree that we need freedom FROM religion. The exception is Islamic countries and followers of islam in other countries. They pose the biggest danger to world peace and source of suffering for billions of non-muslims.

  • Name: Allat
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 09:11:42 -0700

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To Bobby: We DO need freedom from RELIGION. Religion and Spirituality are two different things. __________This is from Webster's online________http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary_________RELIGION -Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Anglo-French religiun, Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back — more at rely Date: 13th century 1 ): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance 2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices 3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness 4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith _____________________________SPIRITUAL Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French & Late Latin; Anglo-French espirital, spiritual, from Late Latin spiritualis, from Latin, of breathing, of wind, from spiritus Date: 14th century 1: of, relating to, consisting of, or affecting the spirit : incorporeal <spiritual needs> 2 a: of or relating to sacred matters _____________In other words, Religion has more to do with dogma - established rites of a sect than personal observances or feelings.__________http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dOGMA

  • Name:
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 10:10:37 -0700

Comment

Hindutva fanatics are preaching lies and hatred against Islam and Muslims. Yet there is hardly any people convert to Hinduism! On the other hand, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the west.

  • Name: Mohammad
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 11:24:19 -0700

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If Islam was like any other useless religion of today and did not advocate resistance at the face of oppression, there wouldn't be such lengthy articles and active websites criticizing it. I don't think there is any mother who does not feel pain for losing her child. Palestinian mothers see the suffering of their children and see how Israelis have taken away everything including their dignity from them. If a mother celebrates the death of her child, it only shows the barbarism of an enemy who has driven that mother and her child insane. Gaza today is a mental hospital and the Israelis are experimenting on humans. It is easy for us to sit away from all the pain that Palestinians are going through and criticize their choices. It is humanity that is being tested in Gaza and let's hope they win for the sake of humanity. And winning does not mean wiping out the Jews but just to have a day without IDF killing a Palestinian child, a day without an ambulance being shot, a day without a school being bombed, and a day without a house being destroyed. But if such a day comes, the Israel we know will cease to exist because its existence from the beginning was based on destruction and misery and it will lose the philosophy of its existence when it becomes just like another country.

  • Name: Ibn Kammuna
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 11:36:12 -0700

Comment

Thank you for this article brother Sujit. You made my tears come down man. But again this is good. We are only human. Peace brother

  • Name: "Islam is the fastest growing religion in the west???"
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 11:55:25 -0700

Comment

Where are the numbers. where is the source? Don´t beleive in such allegations at all. Westerners are more interested in far eastern religions like buddhism and taoism, maybe in gnosticism and similar religions as well. They are looking for spirituality but not for submission under strict rules. In this regard, Islam is even much more strict than christianity and that´s why many might leave christianity for buddhism but not for islam. People are looking for more freedom, not for subnmission. The same is true for many muslims. But anyhow, I don´t think that the converts count that much. They are the Trotzkists of the game, a very small minority. The big movement is from islam to secularism. In western countries, most muslim girls are proud to have a "Lower back tattoo" on the a*s and all they are interested in are the Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears. In this regard, islam is totally overhyped.

  • Name: Islam Hypers
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 12:29:22 -0700

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The typical islam hypers like to criticize the west, while young muslima are demonstrating their faith with headscarves. Suddenly they all must wear it, at school and at work, and they fight for what they call equal rights. Of course they are also against western troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and everywhre. But I never heard one of these brave fighters of islam talking about the fact that muslims are killing each other not only in Darfur, but also in Iraq and Afghanistan. The west does not need to kill muslims. They are already killing each other and all the islam hypers ignore it.

  • Name: I wonder who they learnt it from?????
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 13:21:07 -0700

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Tamil suicide bomber was pregnant’ COLOMBO: The ethnic Tamil bomber who blew herself up targeting Sri Lanka’s top general was pregnant, and that helped her to conceal explosives and get inside army headquarters for a maternity check, an investigator says. The brazen, meticulously planned attack on Tuesday triggered reciprocal military action by both government troops and the Tamil Tiger rebels, pushing Sri Lanka close to civil war after a tense four-year ceasefire. The bomber has been identified as 21-year-old Anoja Kugenthirasah from Vavuniya, a government-held northern town near Tiger-held territory. She is believed to have been a member of the rebels’ Black Tigers suicide squad, the investigator said. The investigator, who cited hospital records, spoke on condition of anonymity due to policy. Government Media Minister Anura Priyadarshana Yapa said he was aware of the initial findings, but “cannot make comment until the investigation is over.” The bomber apparently targeted the car of Sri Lanka’s army commander, Lt Gen Sarath Fonseka inside the heavily fortified military headquarters in Colombo. AF

  • Name: Allat
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 13:43:02 -0700

Comment

"On the other hand, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the west."____________Sez who?------Sources, and Statistic Charts, please.

  • Name: vbv
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 22:39:25 -0700

Comment

The whiteman practiced apartheid well into the late 20th century- cruelly discriminating humanbeings on the basis of their colour and appearance, treating the blacks like vermins that can be killed without any remorse. THAT IS HAPPENING EVEN TODAY IN THE SO-CALLED WAR AGAINST TERROR! See the number of women and children,as well as innocent civilians killed by the American "smart-bombs" and even dumber American GIs in the name of promoting democracy in Iraq ! Who are these white bastards to tell how a country should be run?! Can they not first democratise Saudi Arabia- the world's most repressive , tyrannical and backward country ,who incidently also happens to be the highest spender in exporting wahabi cult, terrorists and spreading jihadi culture! Ofcourse the USA, Britain ,France, Italy etc are unable to see all this because of the lure of OIL!The invasion of Iraq is also only for "oil". These hypocritical bastards pontificate about human rights and democracy only when it suits them or when the opponent is militarily and economically weak that these great powers that be feel that they can bulldoze them into submission!Islamic terrorism of today was the brainchild of the CIA - Osama Bin Laden, Mullah Omar ,Gulbudin Hikmetyar,the dictators of Pakistan,the puppet rulers of various banana republics are all the creations of the dirty Americans and their pliant poodles in Europe. Islamic terrorism ,though inherent in their religion , was rekindled and given a new lease of life by the Americans and their rotten foreign policy. If the world is suffering today due to rise in militant islam and other forms of oppression, the blame squarely lies with the West.Do they have the guts( these yellow striped bastards) to impose 'democracy' in China,North Korea ,or even Iran! No ,these jelly-backed skunks cannot afford to do so as they will be severely mauled by these nations and China can easily defeat these skunks in any war. Have they won the war in Iraq( a nation they entered, knowing fully well that its military and economic resources are fully depleted) even after SIX YEARS of OCCUPATION? They are in shamble ,in total disarray, unable to leave the country after having invested so much to grab and extract Iraqi oil, afraid of losing their face the world over ,becoming a laughingstock (which they are already anyway)! If islam has jihad to conquer the world for islam the Christians have their crusades even today through their "churches" of various denomination and 'evangelists' going to the poor and economically weak nations to harvest souls for Christ,done overtly/covertly in a subtle manner, destroying indegenous cultures and way of life! In the light of all this I don't agree with the author playing on sentiments to show only muslims in poor light as against the subtle treachery amorality of the West. Both are two sides of the same coin- Islam and Christianity , as both believe in claiming the world for themselves and both are proselytsing creeds/cults bent on debunking and destroying any other culture and tradition. The only difference is islam is crude, violent and blatant ,while christians are subtle and kill with a benignly smiling face!

  • Name: Hindu women and Punishment
  • Date: Sunday April 27, 2008
  • Time: 23:42:34 -0700

Comment

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  • Name: Raging Clot-Mob in Indonesia
  • Date: Monday April 28, 2008
  • Time: 01:59:32 -0700

Comment

Mob of 100 muslims burned down mosque of Ahmadiyya sect in Indonesia according to Al-Arabiyya. They also destroyed a school belonging to the Ahmadiyyans.

  • Name: To Mohammad
  • Date: Monday April 28, 2008
  • Time: 07:56:24 -0700

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Mr.Mohammad do you know who made the paletianin people home less, you muslim brothers did, (please read history) Now you are supporting palestinians,you do ot have shame. Just like the world clearly. How many arab conference you were conduted after israrel born. Do you 85 percent of your conference end with no conclution. You people will never change and understand, we also know this. You wants to distroy the world peace.Did you think that we will be sitting without thinking.

  • Name: Allat
  • Date: Monday April 28, 2008
  • Time: 08:37:40 -0700

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To vbv: You say..........."The white man practiced apartheid. well into..........."______________Be careful what you say and do some research. --1- Today, the fact is that, the races are so blended that there is no way one can tell who is Caucasian or not.________ Look at history, and you'll see that the westward surge of Asian Peoples mixed with the Indigenous Anatolians and Greeks and Slavs. _______________ Many people in the U.S. have African genes, and they are white skinned. Many Native Americans are also white skinned. Many Latinos are white skinned. You can't lump white skin color together anymore._________ Another thing that you may not be away of is that the Irish and Scots, very fair skin and blond/red hair, were taken as slaves by the English from the 1600s to 1800s, and brought in chains to the New WOrld. These Irish/Scots entered into love matches with Africans and other Indigenous Peoples. ____________THere were also a great many RUssians and Jews that immigrated to the U.S. - in the 1800s- 1900s, who never had slaves or took part in any abuse - but who were abused themselves. __________In fact, it's NOT a good idea to blame the Caucasians today, because they were never there anyway._____________Besides all this, you should take into account that there were a plethora - PLETHORA - of benefits brought to other peoples in the world - these outweigh the bad.___________As has been said before here and elsewhere, in all the conquests of the islamics, what did they bring? It's not the past one must look at - please don't bring up the "Golden Ages" of Spain or Damascus or the Moguls (vicious killers and degenerates and rotten black with corruption)- LOOK AT THOSE SOCIETIES TODAY! - what are the rulers of arabia doing for their people? BTW those countries were doing very well before islam"---------You have to see the truth that it wasn't JUST the Caucasians that abused other Peoples, ---Genghis Khan was Asian, and yet he and his HOrdes slaughtered their way through China and Russia and Central Asia and Mesopotamia.---------China isn't made up of autonous Chinese (Han) but conquered their way to the land Empire they inherited today. The Mainland Chinese themselves, abuse/d the people in China- MAO was no angel! Look at wht they did/are doing to TIbet. - The Mainland Chinese think that every Asian country belongs to them - and is out to conquer them also. _____If you want to look at the past, look at what the Japanese did in WWII.The Jpns were vicious, VICIOUS killers. ANd looking further back, re. the Aztecs, it was one set of conquerors meeting another conqueror. The Aztec were HATED and FEARED by the other Tribes in Mesoamerica. The same with the Incas. Both civilization practiced human sacrifice - the best the finest and most beautiful - in general, little children were sacrificed. The Mayas not as must, but they did also. _______ Looking at the world today, who helped the victims of the Great Tsunami, how are they today. Who was it that helped them and sent help? THE WEST! It wasn't Arabia that did, it was the WEST.___what would dark -skinned people do without the inventions of the U.S.Today. It's not the past one must look at, it's the Present and THE FUTURE..

  • Name:
  • Date: Monday April 28, 2008
  • Time: 12:12:10 -0700

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AHMEDIS ARE THE PRODUCT OF BRITISH,SINCE THEY DO NOT BELIVE IN JAHID, THE BRITISH GAVE THEM THE GREEN CARD TO PREACH THEIR VERSION OF ISLAM ACCORDING TO THEIR TASTE,WHICH IS NOW IN TROUBLE BECAUSE OF THEM, IS THERE ANY PLACE WHERE THE WESTERENERS HAVENT HAD THEIR FINGERS UP EVERY ONES ASS!

  • Name: NappieRed
  • Date: Monday April 28, 2008
  • Time: 12:16:01 -0700

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This is nothing short of child sacrifice. A society that does this is so sick & twisted it must be eradicated.

  • Name: vbv
  • Date: Monday April 28, 2008
  • Time: 22:21:36 -0700

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To Allat: Russians also practiced serfdom, like Indians had their Shudras until recently doing menial jobs and were treated badly. Serfdom vanished thanks to the Soviets and in India Shudras cannot be belittled anymore as it is a nonbailable offence. Further we have leaders like Ms. Mayavati ,the present chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, Mr. Karunanidhi, the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu,Mr. Balakrishnan, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of India,Mr. K.R. Narayanan the erstwhile President of India,etc. But I am more concerned with the Western Christian preachers coming to India to debunk and undermine its ancient culture of over 6,000 years and impose their beliefs on us. Indians are broad-minded and respect others culture and traditions ,but that should not be taken as a weakness to disparage and belittle our culture to impose a foreign creed claiming it to be superior and a sure passport to a so-called "Heaven"! Otherwise,they have the audacity to tell on our face that we would "go to Hell". This is arrogance and an attempt to brainwash poor people . They also employcorrupt practices of showing some temporary pecuniary/monetary inducements to convert by bribery! You claim that Aztecs, Mayans, were hated by "other tribes" in mesoamerica - by the way who were these other tribes: natives converted to Christianity by the spanish amigos or the portugese? The mayans and Aztecs,as well as other tribes who left behind enough evidence in their cities ,now in ruins, to state their cultural greatness. They have all been decimated by the genocide of the European settlers ,who have fully usurped their lands and resources, hence none of them are alive today to tell their part of the story. The remnant of the natives of the American continent have all been forcibly converted to Christianity and they barely remember their great cultural heritage. What muslims are attempting to do today was already perpetrated by the Europeans before the 20th Century. We in India have seen the worst of both the creeds- islam and christianity-for nearly a millennia and we are still alive to tell you the other side of the story, which the natives of the American continent (whatever remnants of them are still surviving) will not be ably to tell you with their history and culture lost in time!

  • Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
  • Date: Monday April 28, 2008
  • Time: 22:23:55 -0700

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TO VBV : please stop your irrational, meaningless rant which is out of place. Yes , both ISLAM and CHRISTIANITY are cruel, wicked, evil, fascist and dogmatic. But - as the situation as it is now at the international level, christianity must be put into it's place at the appropriate time and place . In comparison to christianity - ISLAM is the most evil, brutal, hatefilled, with full of ill will towards nonmoslems, dark in nature, primitive and killing. More over you are talking about entirely different plane - You are talking as white man - a racial apartheid, which is not aplicable now .It is almost a thing of the past . You can witness today in each and every moslem (ISLAMIC country) religious apartheid - religious discrimination against nonmoslems . The rules , the governance and the regimes are totally stacked and working against nonmoslems in ISLAMIC countries by the ISLAMIC JUNTAS. One can be at least optimistic - that you can argue, or put reason into christianity maniacs or crusaders . But you can be assured that no such civilized way will work with ISLAMISTS/JIHADISTS. Just to taste or see the proof - you are invited to go to any ISLAMIC country such as pakistana, b,desh, SAUDI ARABIA, IRAN, IRAQ, sudan, indonesia, malaysia and umpteen other ISLAMIC hell holes- real brutal, uncivilized, bloodthirsty ,fascist, evil regimes. Live in an ISLAMIC country for a couple of years and tell them you are a nonmoslem - and let us see how long you will lost . Your allegation against sujit das is completely inaccurate ,false and not needed. At least - you can migrate and live in any white mans country with decent way and in a dignified way . and if there is nay trouble or problem - you can resort to law and take the help . But in any ISLAMIC country - you will be hanged with in no time for doing that . There are many other reasons which you will be glad to live in a white mans country - at the present time rather than in an ISLAMIC country. Do not even - remotely try to put your monkey wrench in the rightful path. You are trying to obstruct the justice and truth by your irrational comparison. Yes, now the christianity as religion is doing that - but not as brutal , not as wicked, not as evil and not as hateful and not as fascist , not as cruel, and not as murderous as ISLAMISTS/JIHADISTS / ALLA worshippers do.

  • Name: Thomas Justin Kaze
  • Date: Tuesday April 29, 2008
  • Time: 00:59:44 -0700

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To Muhammad (April 27, 2008) It is, and has always been, Islam that is OPPRESSION - and the whole civilized world is resisting it; say, is resisting Islam is regarded as a sin, in the eyes of allah-shmallah or his thug muhammad, is the Islamic resistance to our Crusade an equal sin? I will tell you what, Muhammadans: you stay in your Islamic scum-holes and we shall stay in our Kafiristan and we will never mess with each other again, until you cannot eat your oil anymore and come crawling to us, leaving Islam outside the door like a pair of soiled shoes. On the other hand, one more Ka-boom from you and we will start planting mushrooms in Saudi Barbaria, Yemen or some other cesspool of Muslim liquid, or human, waste. The final question remains - who needs whom to survive; can we drive charcoal-fed cars again, or can the Muslim countries get their asses in gear and start prododucing thei own disposable lighters and pencils? Eat my shirts, Muhammadans! Regards, TJKaze.

  • Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
  • Date: Tuesday April 29, 2008
  • Time: 09:07:23 -0700

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To VBV : Stop all your confusion and obfuscation . You cant even defend good things or people . You are unnecessarily confused and obstructing and diverting from our discussion - actually you are doing the job of an ISLAMISTS/JIHADISTS. ISLAM as a theology , as an idea, as a practice, as a moral , as a part of life and as tradition - in whatever way you look at it is rotten to the core and extremely evil, wicked, bloodthirsty, fascism, discriminatory, slavery invented and perpetuator , killing, inhuman, primitive, uncivilized . We - the human civilization dont want to do anything with ISLAM/MO/ ALLA / QQURRAN. ISLAM=darkness+hatred + slavery+killing + utter discrimination + extreme cruelty +extreme intolerant + extreme misogyny. .......... I criticize and confront christianity which is also evil ,fascist . But there is a way and place to criticize christianity . This article is written by an INDIAN and the wicked Musalmans are already at his throat with all lies and deception and mis/disinformation as you can see. instead of answering the right way they bring Hindu dharma into picture to deflect the truth and divert attention some how . You are certainly helping them with your stupid arguments. First you must know that ISLAM/QQURRAN/MO and now the Moslem countries are highly discriminatory, harmful, noxious, poisonous to nonmoslems in every way possible - becoz they do not accept and respect any other religion, faith or people . ISLAMISTS wants to kill nonmoslems and force everbody into ISLAMIC darkness - which means you will become a cruel, evil, wicked, killer - once you accept ISLAM - no doubt in this. you look at things differently - becoz you become a slave of ISLAM . You will go into darkness instead of seeing light and kindness and compassion. Stop arguing any more , to defend ISLAM. Why dont you go and live in Mecca for one day please . You will not be back .

  • Name: Walter Sieruk
  • Date: Tuesday April 29, 2008
  • Time: 10:06:21 -0700

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It has been said if someone tells a person the same lie again and again that person will end up really believing that lie. To put it another way as one writer explained "The bigger the lie,the more frequently it is repeated the more people will believe it." This an old brainwashing method that goes way back. Also not letting a person get outside information further programs the victim. That's just what all these madrassas,"schools",do is brainwash youth into becoming mujahideen or warriors for the jihad. Therefore,all these brainwashed youths have a very narrow and closed worldview. Furthermore, the Bible curues men of violence which applies to jihadist groups such as al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and so on. Psalms 140:11. reads "evil shall the violent man to overthrow him." That same chapter in verses 2 and 4 reads "continually are they gathered together for war...Keep me, O Lord from the hands of the wicked; perserve me from the violent man; who have purposed to overthrow my goings." Futhermore, this "promise" of a paradise with 72 virgins for the jihadist "martyr" is in reality just ancient Arabic and Zorastrian mythology masquerading as divine truth. This was predicted and explained in the following scripture: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine: but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned onto fables." Second Timothy 4:3,4 also "evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived." Second Timthy 3:13, and First Timothy 1:3, "Neither give heed to fables..." In contrast to the jihadist pipe dream. Christians have the reality of Seconed Peter 1:16, "For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ..." -[KJV] The writer quote is from UNHOLY WAR: AMERICA,ISRAEL AND RADICAL ISLAM by Randall Price, page 277

  • Name: The Truth
  • Date: Wednesday April 30, 2008
  • Time: 21:46:43 -0700

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No mother will happy or proud when any of her children dies. It is for propaganda only. As the article says at the end: They wished that their child did not do it. Why? Because only mothers can be sure that the child is of hers 100%. Pregnancy and giving birth, are privileges given to woman only, and the child is actually came out of her body. He/she is 100% hers. Can you imagine when a part of you body was cut off from you? Are you acting as if it makes you proud? Does it come from your true heart? SO Moslem, please open your eyes, hearts and minds, and see the truth that Islam, is destroying you, your family, and people around you. Try some other religion which includes human rights in the teaching. I'm not recommending any religion, but Islam is out of question. The real you will sad, very very sad.

  • Name: vbv
  • Date: Thursday May 01, 2008
  • Time: 05:37:05 -0700

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Hey "Kaffir..." You may be living today in multi-cultural UK ,very tolerant and all that,not in India where the evangelists and pastors go about day in and day out disparaging,denigrating indegenous "heathen/pagan" culture to convert as many as possible from the poor of the society by showing small monetary consideration- virtual bribery for conversion- and asking them to debunk and deride their culture and traditions. I agree the muslims are are very evil and bloody which we are seeing first hand in India ,but the christians are no less evil bribing their way to add more to the christian flock. This is immoral! Nothing spiritual about it! You don't the American Christians and their evangelical pastors - they are no less fanatical than the muslims . You have George Bush and the horde of the conservative ,born-agains ,and what not, are no less zealous than the muslim Mullah. They are not truly secular. Ofcourse the christians were never secular . They had a long history of bigotry - burning heretics alive in stakes, using hideous instruments of tuorture, virtually decimating the peoples of the conquered lands by systematic genocide like in the American continents, Australia where the aborigins live in small pockets and most of them have been 'baptised' ( the whiteman owns Australia and he the overlord- the aborigines have no say in anything),practice of Apartheid in Africa,not to speak of 'crusades' inthe 12 century,burning of 'witches' in the USA,etc. What credentials they have to talk about human rights when they have a long history of bloody abuses? I have my sympathies for the modern Europeans but not the Christian fanatic Americans and their amoral ways pursuing their greed for oil using export 'democracy' and tall hypocritical talks of 'human rights' as a good excuse to invade weak nations! Can they export 'democracy to Cina, Iran,North Korea,heh? I am holding no candle for islam which has caused loss of millions of lives in its bloody 600 years of history in India and a further 10 million lives lost in the partition of this country in 1947! Do you know who engendered the sep[eratists movements in India's North east? It is the christian missioneries who had the entire population in the state of Nagaland converted and sizeable populations in the other areas converted to christianity and these worthies instigated these people to secede from India due to their new adopted religion! These Christian missionaries are capable of doing a lot of damage. Why, if possible they may even try converting/baptising Chmpanzees, Orangutang, Gorrillas,etc! You do'nt understand the ground realities here in this country. Do you know who has given 'political asylum' to these Naga terrorists? It is the UK. Similarly you would find most of the Kashmiri terrorists find UK as their second home after Pakistan! So 'Kaffir' or whatever you are - you are not "kaffir" enough if you take sides with Christian bullies of America against islamic fundamentalists. Both fundamentalists are equally dangerous. For a fact it is the christian fundamentalists that have created Osama BIn Laden and their likes ,made Pakistan a fundamentalist state ( it was Zia ul Haq who introduced 'Blasphemy Law in Pakistan) in the name of defeating the Soviets in Afghanistan. Kashmiri militancy and armed terrorism started only at this time!They have made the world a far more dangerous place to live. The root cause of all this turmoil is the policies of the christian fundamentalists rulers in the USA and their insatiable greed for oil ( the commercial interests of the corporations in which Bush and Cheney have vital interests) has landed them in the amoral invasion of a sovereign nation for a non-existent WMD and to foist 'democracy and American values' on a proud and ancient country - the land of Babykonians, Sumerians, etc! Sadam Hussain was a horrible dictator, I agree. But what about the Shekhs ruling Saudi Arabia, the President of Syria, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, etc.? Anyway I have my opinions just as you do have yours. You cannot impose your views on me just as I cannot do on you or anybody. It is just a healthy way of opening the minds - not a strict and intolerant dictum - I am right and you are wrong!

  • Name: cjk
  • Date: Thursday May 01, 2008
  • Time: 09:32:35 -0700

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vbv- You're nothing but a filibuster. Your long written arguements are a sure sign of your weakness. But alas! You're too dumb to realize whats common knowledge among the wise.

  • Name: cjk
  • Date: Thursday May 01, 2008
  • Time: 09:40:03 -0700

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vbv- One more thing genius, I'll bet that less than 25% of the readers here have bothered to wade through your long, tedious, and misinformitive comments. On the other hand, probrably close to 100% have just read mine in their entirety.

  • Name: vbv
  • Date: Thursday May 01, 2008
  • Time: 20:39:46 -0700

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To 'cjk' Hallo-you are just a typical christian fanatic - just as evil as the radical islamist! The likes of Bush and other US talking of human rights ( just hypocriticxal and hollow!) while you are the only ones to have used the atomic bombs ,the first to use chemical weapons in Vietnam ( and yet lost the war with a rotten egg on your face!) ,you have won nothing in Afghanistan where Al Queda roams freely ( they attempted to murder our puppet Karzai under your very nose!) and you are in dire straits in Iraq where these radical islamic terrorists are having a free ride and making life more miserable than it was under Saddam Hussein! Your rotten 'polcies' , just your rotten greed for others' wealth, has made the world less safe and created more turmoil and violence! Have the Americans won anything,least of all goodwill, in the last fifty years - those loud mouthed morons!Radical islam and Christianity are two sides of the same coin- intolerant and bigoted and arrogant ,bulldozing all indegenous cultures and traditions to extinction!

  • Name: antimod
  • Date: Thursday May 01, 2008
  • Time: 23:30:52 -0700

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In Hinduism the word "religion" does not exist. It is Dharma, a pervasive word that indicates what you follow. This word has no equal and cannot be equated with the word religion. The root of this word religion is " relegate" meaning to go back in search of ones self. The social customs and religion among hindus is a highly diverse subject. But, the Dharma, the one that leads to enlightenment remains unaltered while the social customs and codes keep changing. Mr./Ms Zuk talks about medieval customs that are no more in existence. If at all it is there then it is an exception limited to to a few individuals. With Islam the story is different .Their religion and the social customs and codes are interwoven. Thats why they are experiencing a great difficulty to adjust themselves with nonmuslims and assert that their word is the final. They are slaves of their dogmas. NO one can help them. Not even God.

  • Name: cjk
  • Date: Friday May 02, 2008
  • Time: 21:20:11 -0700

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vbv: Keep talking windy, all you do is further reveal your idiocy. Another mark of an infantile mind is to make and base arguements on unknown assumptions. I never said, nor did I imply that I am an adherent or believer of the Christian religion. On the other hand when I call you a long winded, rambling idiot, no assumptions have been made!

  • Name: vbv
  • Date: Friday May 02, 2008
  • Time: 23:14:01 -0700

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To "cjk" :- You stupid ass , you disclaim christianity when harsh and inconvenient truth stares you in the face,that is typical of an American to lie with a straight face , just like the WMD and 'smart' bombs dropped on civilians ( including women and children , as though Bombs could think and discriminate between good and evil) caper in Iraq and Afghanistan. The British once claimed that the sun would never set on the British empire ,heh , and where are they today - a faithful poodle of the USA. The USA thinks no end of itself , but today many countries cock a snook at them ,be it China,Iran or North Korea. So don't live in a fool's paradise ,you double-distilled idiot!

  • Name: vbv
  • Date: Friday May 02, 2008
  • Time: 23:55:59 -0700

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Most Americans are Christian fanatics. An American soldier Pat T. was murdered by his own compatriots because he was an atheist. To add insult to injury the Lt. Colenal , commandant of the unit was cruel to say that since he was an atheists only worms would devour his body and he would go to hell anyway! This is how backward and crazy these American are fed with trash in their heads by their evangelical christians and zealous politicians !

  • Name: cjk
  • Date: Saturday May 03, 2008
  • Time: 13:07:30 -0700

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vbv: Another tactic of infantile intelects is to scream and cry when offended, which just serves to further show their underdeveloped psyche. Your constant ranting against America with lying and unbelievabe arguments actually uncovers your extreme jealousy of America. Your comments could be used for instruction in a psychiatry class. I honestly can't conceive of letting myself become so jealous of anything or anyone.

  • Name:
  • Date: Saturday May 03, 2008
  • Time: 13:21:15 -0700

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vbv: I also must laughingly point out that in reply to my reprimanding you for infantile assumptions that I was a Christian, you again assummed that I disavowed Christianity-which I didn't. You honestly sound like a spoiled 11 year old being confronted with his foolishness. Go ahead and rant on, any sane person reading this can see how I've put you to shame. At this point I'm finished because much arguing (if you can call it that) with a fool is starting to make me feel foolish. So there big boy, you actually have had an effect on me. Waa waa waa.

  • Name: vbv
  • Date: Monday May 05, 2008
  • Time: 00:19:48 -0700

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To cjk : It is you who is piqued like a 11 year old when inconvenient facts are pointed out. It is the avarice of the US , and not any pious reason to bring 'democracy to Iraq that has made them invade that country. Now they are stuck in for over six years making things worse ,with oil price hitting the skies ( we are indirectly made to pay for that illegal and illconsidered war). These cowards can only hold out empty threats to Iran, they cannot even threaten North Korea which is well stockted with missiles and nuclear warheads! Forget about China ,they cannot even dream about doing anything to China. They pick out small and weak countries to flex their bullying muscles ,that too not on any sound principles but sheer pecuniary interests , and pontificate about 'democracy and human rights'! The rise of 'islamic' militancy and radicalism is to be squarely blamed on the American foreign 'policy' . So much for Americans and their Christian fanaticism!

  • Name: vbv
  • Date: Monday May 05, 2008
  • Time: 00:28:58 -0700

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To cjk: Before you call me names like a spoilt child ponder over what I have said without prejudice. Do you think the USA can come out of Iraq honorably? Can they leave Afghanistan now or even in the near future without Hamid Karzai and his cohorts getting torn to shreds by the Taliban and the Al Qaida ,alongwith other splinter radical muslim groups joining in from Pakistan? They ( the Us ) have already lost a lot of prestige and dignity the world over. They wanted to bring in a new 'world order' under their hegemoney acting like a world 'super cop' - now they look pathetic like an incompetent and impotent 'world super cop' . A miserable failure on all sides.

  • Name: vbv
  • Date: Monday May 05, 2008
  • Time: 00:41:09 -0700

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What impels the USA to act as a world 'super cop'. It is sheer arrogance of power and wealth! More than that it is the Christian fanaticism of evangelists, the Watch Tower and various money minting christian organisations abounding in the USA and flouting the Jeffersonian principle of seperation of state from religion. These preachers do influence the politicians in the USA like Bush, they interfere in education blocking Darwin's theory of evolution and forcing 'Biblical Creation' in its place. They want the world to believe the world was created in 4,004 BC and all scientific evidence to the contrary is false, the list is long! They are no better than the islamic fundamentalists. American politicians subscribe to these fanatics and oppose them only when their pecuniary interests are affected! They are the root cause of islamic resurgence. They would rather support Dictators like in Pakistan, the Sheiks in Saudi Arabia, than common folks yearning for 'freedom'!

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