Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Are British Muslims Treated Like Jews in 1930s Germany?

On Jews, Muslims and Hitler
Yesterday - Monday July 7, 2008 - was the third anniversary of the suicide bombings on London Transport. Mohammed Sidique Khan, Shehzad Tanweer and Jermaine Lindsay blew themselves up on underground trains, while Hasib Hossain boarded a Number 30 bus and detonated his rucksack in Tavistock Square. Fifty-two people were killed and hundreds were injured.

On British television, a documentary was broadcast on Channel 4, entitled "It Shouldn't Happen To a Muslim." This was produced by Peter Oborne, and it asserted that Muslims have become demonized in British society.

In an article in the Independent newspaper, Peter Oborne argued that Islamophobia is the new "British disease." He follows the line that Muslims are being oppressed, and states that "Surveys show Muslims have the highest rate of unemployment, the poorest health, the most disability and fewest educational qualifications of any faith group in the country. This means they are vulnerable, rendering them open to ignorant and hostile commentary from mainstream figures."

If Muslims are poorly educated and unable to find good jobs, is this the fault of Britain? Recent mass immigration from Poland has proved that even without language skills, there are jobs available in Britain for those who are willing to work. Muslims' health issues are similarly of their own making - after all, in Britain, even illegal immigrants have access to full free-on-the-point-of-delivery healthcare. And I wonder what these surveys class as disability - work-related accidents, or even congenital disabilities, caused by inbreeding, a by-product of arranged marriage customs?

Oborne finishes off his article with a call for collective guilt on the part of the British public and establishment: "We should all feel ashamed about the way we treat Muslims, in the media, in our politics, and on our streets. We do not treat Muslims with the tolerance, decency and fairness that we often like to boast is the British way. We urgently need to change our public culture."

Oborne's comments about the victimization of Muslims in Britain tally with how many Muslims view their situation. Featuring on Oborne's documentary was Labour MP for Dewsbury Shahid Malik . The politician trotted out a mantra that has been used by Dr. Muhammed Abdul Bari of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), and Osama Saeed of the Muslim Association of Britain (MAB): the presumption that Muslims in modern Britain feel like Jews under Hitler.

Shahid Malik, as reported by the Independent, maintains that it is now "legitimate" for the media and society at large to target Muslims. He states: "I think most people would agree that if you ask Muslims today what do they feel like, they feel like the Jews of Europe. I don't mean to equate that with the Holocaust but in the way that it was legitimate almost - and still is in some parts - to target Jews, many Muslims would say that we feel the exact same way. Somehow there's a message out there that it's OK to target people as long as it's Muslims. And you don't have to worry about the facts, and people will turn a blind eye."

Currently, Jews in Britain are FOUR TIMES more likely to suffer physical attacks than Muslims, and it is a sad fact that some of these attacks upon Jews are carried out by Muslims. It is now a popular myth - originally invented by Bernard Lewis - that Muslim anti-Semitism originated with the foundation of Israel, and that before the advent of Zionism Muslims treated Jews well.

Though many liberals in the UK adhere to Lewis' dogma - even, it seems, in the biased reporting of Palestinian issues by the BBC - Islamic anti-Semitism has a long history. I am currently reading Dr. Andrew Bostom's seminal work The Legacy of Islamic Anti-Semitism for the purposes of writing a review. The book, containing a plethora of documentation, some of it translated for the first time, thoroughly explodes Bernard Lewis' theory.

Peter Oborne, in his emotive cascade of rhetoric, maintains that there is no difference between Islamophobia and anti-Semitism. He states that "there is no social, political or cultural protection for Muslims: as far as the British political, media and literary establishment is concerned the normal rules of engagement are suspended."

In Scotland, Osma Saeed of the Muslim Association of Britain has suggested that Muslims in Britain suffer in the same way that Jews suffered under Hitler. In 2006 he said:

"Hitler was a product of German society, where anti-Semitic attitudes had existed unchecked for decades. We have got to listen and learn from what happened there and be vigilant. I am not talking about large numbers of people being rounded up, but we could be looking at situations where Muslims are routinely assaulted in the streets."

Andrew Bostom commented on this Jerusalem Post story from February 2, 2008, which reported that Franco Frattini, European Commissioner for Justice, Freedom and Security asserts that half of all anti-Semitic incidents across Europe are connected to radical Islamic elements.

"Demographic data from 2007 indicate that the total number of Europeans is 494.8 million; estimates of the number of Muslims in Europe range from 15-20 million, or some ~3.0-4.0% of the total European population. Thus, on a population percentage basis, Muslims in Europe account for roughly 24.0 to 32.3 times the number of Antisemitic incidents as their non-Muslim European counterparts.

These 2007/2008 data are in turn consistent with previous findings from 2006 on the excess prevalence of frank Antisemitism reported amongst European Muslims, published in The Journal of Conflict Resolution by Yale University biostatistician Dr. Edward H. Kaplan, and Dr. Charles A. Small of the Yale Institute for the Study of Global Antisemitism. ("Anti-Israel Sentiment Predicts Antisemitism in Europe" Journal of Conflict Resolution, 2006, Vol. 50, pp. 548-561.)

Drs. Kaplan and Small examined the views of 5004 Europeans, roughly 500 individuals sampled from each of 10 European Union countries (Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom). The authors' main publicized results confirmed their (rather commonsensical) a priori hypothesis: anti-Israel sentiments strongly and independently predicted the likelihood that an individual was anti-Semitic in a graded manner, i.e., the more anti-Israel (on a scale of zero to 4), the more a person was likely to be anti-Semitic.

But a much more striking and relevant finding in light of the burgeoning Jew hatred now evident in Europe's Muslim communities, received much less attention: in a controlled comparison to European Christians (as the "referent" group), European Muslims were nearly eightfold (i.e., 800%) more likely to be overtly anti-Semitic. [emphasis added] ("Anti-Israel Sentiment Predicts anti-Semitism in Europe," p. 557 and Table 3, p. 558.) Furthermore, in light of the Pew Global Attitudes Project data on Muslim attitudes toward Jews in Islamic countries, the Yale study likely underestimated the extent of anti-Semitism amongst Europe's Muslim communities, had more poorly educated, less acclimated European Muslims been sampled. Pew's earlier international survey indicated ("The Great Divide: How Westerners and Muslims View Each Other", Pew Global Attitudes Project, June 22, 2006.)."

If people assert that Muslims currently are being treated as Jews were under Hitler, I wish these crass individuals would examine the history of Ayman al-Husseini (1895 - 1974) who organized massacres of Jews in British Palestine. This man met Hitler, and assisted Adolph Eichmann with the setting up of a Muslim branch of the Wahffen SS. He also urged the killing of Jewish children, rather than offering them in a prisoner exchange.

There have been assaults upon Muslims in Britain and these are to be condemned. But the thesis presented by Oborne, Malik and others is a distortion of reality.


Was It Britain's Fault That 7/7 Happened?

The Independent states that an "ICM survey found that 51 per cent of Britons blame Islam to some degree for the 2005 attacks." Mohammed Sidique Khan - leader of the 7/7 bombers - claimed on video that he was bombing London because he thought Muslims were under attack, and because he was annoyed with the attitudes of Muslim preachers who gave in to kaffir (non-believer) values.

So no wonder half of Britons thought Islam was to blame for 7/7. I am surprised that, as Khan carried out his bombings to support what he perceived to be "true Islam," the figure was not higher. The ICM survey, commissioned to coincide with the documentary, also stated that ONE QUARTER OF MUSLIMS feel that Islamic values are not compatible with British values. Does Peter Oborne expect the British public to feel guilty that some Muslims believe British culture is incompatible with their ideology?

In case anyone has developed selective amnesia, this is what Mohammed Sidique Khan said. The video was released while his body lay in 52 bags (one for each of his cell's victims?) in a drawer at Westminster Coroner's Court.

"Until we feel security, you will be our targets - not until you have stopped the bombing, gassing, imprisonment, and torture of my people, we will not stop this fight. We are at war, and I am a soldier. Now you too will taste the reality of this situation.........Jihad is an obligation, on every single one of us, men and women, and by staying at home, you are turning your backs on Jihad, which is a major sin, it's a Kabira gona (clears throat). If you have any doubts or reservations about this and the other Jihad ayas, then I strongly suggest you research them, check the Islamic history - the books are very widely available - look to the classical scholars. See what sort of lives they led.

"Our so-called scholars today are content with their Toyotas and semi-detached houses. They seem to think their responsibilities lie with pleasing the khuffar instead of Allah, so they tell us ludicrous things, like "you must obey the law of the land". So how na- how on earth did we conquer lands in the past if we were to obey by this, this law? By Allah, these scholars will be brought to account, and if they fear the British government more than they fear Allah, then they must desist in doing talks, lectures, and passive fatwas and they need to stay at home where they are useless, and leave the job to the real men, the true inheritors of the Prophets."

Shehzad Tanweer, Khan's comrade-in-murder, said in his farewell video that Britain had "openly declared war on Islam and the foreigners in the crusade against the Muslims...We love death the way you love life."

Britain must feel guilty for the situation in Afghanistan, Iraq, and must accept that if Britain had a different foreign policy and had different attitudes towards Islam, then there would be no threat from Islamic radicalism or Islamic terror. That was the message openly trotted out by hijab-wearing Rajnaara Akhtar on the first anniversary of the 7/7 attacks.

Anas Altikriti wrote at the same time: "We will not stand for our country and people being terrorised nor will we stand for our government terrorising any other peoples." This individual - who argued back in 2004 that the British media was antagonizing Muslims - was between 2004 and 2005 the president of the Muslim Association of Britain (MAB).

The MAB (like the Muslim Council of Britain) was co-founded by Kemal el-Helbawy, a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist group founded in 1927 in Egypt. Altikriti now heads the Cordoba Foundation. This group, founded in 2005 claims that it exists to uphold better relations between cultures. Strange then, that it is called Cordoba - a direct reference to the Muslim colony established in Spain following the violent invasion by Tariq bin Zayid in 711 AD.

Back in August 2006, an open letter was published in several newspapers in Britain. This letter, signed by numerous Muslim groups, including the MAB and MCB, blamed British political policy for attacks: "It is our view that current British government policy risks putting civilians at increased risk both in the UK and abroad."

It is known that Mohammed SIdique Khan was rejected by his father when he married a woman of his own choice, rather than the imported arranged bride chosen by his family. If his father had not been so stuck in his "alien" ways, and had accepted his bride, it is possible that Khan would never have been drawn into radicalism.

There are currently vast ghettos in most large cities where Muslim communities exist, where Urdu and Bangla are spoken more frequently than English. These communities are in some cases - despite the protestations of Leftists - "no-go areas" for non-Muslims. Multiculturalism has encouraged migrants to feel "separate" and "different" and has done nothing to help individuals from such communities to become assimilated or integrated into British society. And yet if one draws attention to these "no-go areas" the term "Islamophobe" is thrown around as a weapon. When a bishop (Michael Nazir-Ali) mentions that such "no-go areas" exist, he gets death threats from Muslims.

Christian preachers are actively told by a Muslim police support officer that they must not do missionary work in a "Muslim area." So for some individuals in the police, no-go areas do exist. But for Britain's liberals and Leftists, even drawing attention to such truths is an act of "Islamophobia."

Around the same time that he compared Muslims in Britain to Jews under Hitler, Osama Saeed urged Muslims to refuse to cooperate with the police. In Tayside in Dundee, the police had set up a Special Branch community unit to tackle extremism. Now, Tayside police have become embroiled in a controversy involving dogs and Muslims.


Going To the Dogs?

Britain is well-known as a nation of dog-lovers. But for Muslims in Britain and beyond, the issue of dogs has been a source of contention. In Iran in February this year, a 70-year-old man was sentenced to 30 lashes and a prison term for the "crime" of walking his dog.

Mohammed, founder of Islam, had "issues" with dogs. In the Hadiths of Imam Muslim, "Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) ordered to kill dogs, and he sent (men) to the corners of Medina that they should be killed." Later, this order was modified so that working dogs should be spared.

The police rely upon sniffer dogs in the hunt for explosives and drugs. They also rely upon dogs for the apprehension of some criminals. In Tayside, the police recently used a cute six-week-old German Shepherd puppy called Rebel in some of its promotional material.

Rebel was posed inside a policeman's hat, in a promotional flier distributed around Tayside. The flier was to be displayed in store windows. The police force was not prepared for the reaction that ensued.

The story was reported in the Daily Mail, Telegraph, Fox News, Metro the Scotsman and Press Association.

The picture of Rebel was used because he had been born as part of a puppy-breeding program to raise police dogs. He had a attracted a lot of visitors to Tayside Police website when his pictures were posted, along with a "puppy diary." It was assumed that his photogenic features along with his fame would be welcomed by the public. The press reports suggested that Muslims have complained about the canine image, and that some Muslim store owners have refused to display the fliers. The issue was highlighted by a Dundee city councillor, Mohammed Asif, who also heads Tayside Joint Police Board. Asif was the one who suggested that some Muslims "might" find the image offensive. All reports that Muslims are offended stem from this councillor, who is getting a publicity boost from the press reporting. He claimed that some shopkeepers "would not display the postcard."

Asif said: "My concern was that it's not welcomed by all communities. With the dog on the cards, it was probably a waste of resources going to these communities. People who have shops just won't put up the postcard. But the police have said to me that it was simply an oversight and they did not seek to offend or upset. The police should have understood. Since then the police have explained that it was an oversight on their part and that if they had seen it was going to cause upset they would not have done it."

Osama Saeed has suggested that Asif was misinterpreted. He argued: ""It does not appear to me that Mohammed Asif has mentioned anywhere that Muslims as a faith group would find this offensive. This seems to be a complaint based on culture rather than religion. There isn't any Islamic basis for taking issue with a simple picture of a little puppy."

Following Mohammed Asif's comments, Tayside Police has apologized for its "oversight" and a spokesman stated that "did not seek advice from the force's diversity adviser prior to publishing and distributing the postcards. That was an oversight and we apologise for any offence caused." The comments pages under the Daily Mail and Telegraph reports are almost universally angry.

The issue of Muslims being offended by dogs has been in the British media again. On June 27th, the Express newspaper reported that a document by Britain's Transport Department has suggested that police sniffer dogs must not come in contact with passengers, after Muslims complained that contact with dogs was "unacceptable."

British Transport Police employ sniffer dogs at railway stations to sniff out explosives. Following explosions on underground trains on 7/7 2005, and attempted bombings of London underground trains on June 21, 2005, as well as attempted bomb attacks upon German trains in 2006, the police have a duty to protect citizens from potential bombings.

The report by the Transport Department, a government body, stated that Muslim passengers had complained when they came in contact with sniffer dogs that were employed in a trial that was carried out on all passengers on trains from Brighton. The report also stated that another trial, which took place on the Heathrow Express platform, where all potential train passengers were subjected to body scanners was found to be "unacceptable" to Muslim females.

Fortunately for public security, the British Transport Police is not going to change its methodology. A spokesperson said: "We are obviously aware of, and sensitive to, cultural sensitivities. BTP officers do have the power to stop and search anyone under section 44 of the Terrorism Act. This also covers the use of dog handlers and dogs, which are used to indicate any substance they have been trained to detect."

In another British news report, a recommendation has been made by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo). This body is comprised of senior police chiefs from across the country. It has stated that when raids take place in Muslim mosques and Muslim homes, sniffer dogs will be obliged to wear "bootees" so as not to offend Muslim sensibilities.

The Acpo recommendation states: "We are trying to ensure that police forces are aware of sensitivities that people can have with the dogs to make sure they are not going against any religious or cultural element within people's homes. It is being addressed and forces are working towards doing it."

Terrorism usually attempts to change situations. The IRA bombed London, Manchester and elsewhere as a move towards independence. It seems that - three years on from 7/7, the British establishment is bending over backwards to make Muslims feel comfortable. In this, it seems that the four bombers of July 7, 2005 have been successful.

Betrayals By The Establishment

In February 2008 Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury, shocked the nation with his suggestion that Sharia law in Britain was "inevitable."

Last week, Britain's most senior judge took a walk in Rowan Williams' shoes, apparently oblivious to the hostility that the Archbishop's comments evoked. The Chief Justice, Lord Phillips of Worth Travers, was speaking as a guest at the East London Mosque, whose chairman is Dr. Muhammad Abdul Bari, the current head of the Muslim Council of Britain. The Chief Justice claimed that Sharia law could play a role in British law, for example in cases of mediation.

The Chief Justice claimed that there was "widespread misunderstanding" about sharia, and stated: "There is no reason why sharia principles, or any other religious code, should not be the basis for mediation or other forms of alternative dispute resolution." The full speech can be viewed on video.

Phillips did not support the introduction of amputations or stonings, but he seemed totally oblivious to the fact that in sharia, a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man. As such, it is in total opposition to a basic principle of British law. A witness testimony is judged on its merits, not upon the gender of the person presenting it.

The Chief Justice said: "It is possible in this country for those who are entering into a contractual agreement to agree that the agreement shall be governed by law other than English law." His comments elicited mixed reactions.

Charles Moore, writing in the Telegraph noted that Ed Husain, author of The Islamist had become radicalized after visiting the East London Mosque. Moore also stated: "Sharia also traditionally insists on a second-class status of citizenship for Jews and Christians. All four main schools of sharia say that the penalty for apostasy - abandoning the faith - is death."

Following on the heels of Lord Phillips of Worth Travers' speech a senior British barrister, Stephen Hockman QC, argued that there was an "inevitability" of Sharia law being used in Britain.

At present, a bigamist can receive seven years' jail if convicted. Yet the British government recognizes Muslim polygamous marriages and allows welfare payments to a Muslim's multiple wives. Something here is wrong. Such payments suggest that - far from being victims of Nazi-style oppression - Muslims in some cases receive special, privileged treatment. This aspect of sharia has already been acknowledged and incorporated into Britain's legislation, by the back door.

The British police used to be accused of racism, and I personally witnessed police racist abuse in the 1970s and 1980s. In 1999 a major inquiry found the police to be "institutionally racist." Instead of merely addressing racism, the police have now gone to ridiculous lengths. It appears that the police are more concerned with appearing politically correct than they are concerned with combating crime.

In 2002 a former TV presenter was arrested "on suspicion of inciting racial hatred." Robin Page's "crime" had been to publicly say "If you are a black, vegetarian, Muslim, asylum-seeking, one-legged lesbian lorry driver, I want the same rights as you." Mr. Page fought for five years to clear his name. He won $4,000 compensation in January this year from Gloucestershire police.

In Luton, Bedfordshire, a police officer was forced to resign in January 2008 for playing a practical joke on a Muslim friend and colleague. During a Christmas party, he had given the Muslim police officer a bottle of wine and a pack of bacon. The Muslim recipient of the gifts had found the prank amusing and did not complain, but administrators refused to see the humor.

In May this year, an 18-year-old car driver was told to remove a St. George's flag from inside the back of his car. Ben Smith was told by a policeman that the flag (England's national flag) could be considered racist against immigrants. The police officer said that Mr. Smith faced a fine if he did not comply.


Liberals Who Shill For Islamism

It is neither the duty of the police nor of the judiciary to redefine the law. Only parliament can change the law. Sadly, parliament introduced the Human Rights Act in 1998 which has made British law of secondary importance to the terms of the 1950 European Convention on Human Rights. Judges have interpreted this legislation to mean that Afghan terrorists cannot be deported to their home country lest they be tortured upon their return.

Abu Qatada, regarded as Al Qaeda's "ambassador in Europe," arrived illegally in Britain in 1988. He has been convicted in absentia by a Jordanian court on charges of terrorism. But last month Qatada was freed from the jail where he awaited deportation and he was allowed to remain in Britain. He will receive benefits courtesy of the British taxpayer. Similarly, Yasser al-Siri walks around Maida Vale in West London. He was convicted in Egypt of plotting a bomb attack that killed a six-year-old girl. Yet he remains free in Britain.

British readers are asked not to read this link as it contains the name of a suspected terrorist who has recently been released from Belmarsh jail where he has remained since 2001. One of this suspected terrorist's associates was deported to France in 2006. I have frequently written of this man, as have many British newspapers. But now, if I disclose his name to British readers (this site is registered in the United States) I could be found guilty of contempt of court, even though one British website has named him.

Last week this Algerian individual, who has been awaiting deportation for seven years, was freed. The judge, Mr. Justice Mitting, has ordered that this man can only be identified by the British press as "U," even though the government's Home Office has described him as a "leading organizer and facilitator of terrorist activity."

Sadly we already have one High Court judge in Britain (Mr. Justice Eady) who has used Britain's 1998 Human Rights Act to completely redefine the parameters of what constitutes libel. As a result of David Eady's zeal, in 2004, George Galloway won a libel case. The case was won not because a report claiming the Leftist politician had received money from Saddam Hussein was untrue, but because Galloway had not been offered a chance to comment on the story before it was published.

The government introduced legislation in 2000 which was intended to counter terrorism and serious crime. Originally this legislation (the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act or RIPA) was designed to allow only a few public bodies to investigate the lives and electronic communications of individuals. Now, a total of 792 agencies - comprising individuals who are neither qualified in surveillance nor directly elected - have permission to snoop and share information about individual citizens. Unelected council employees are currently enjoying unprecedented powers to place citizens under surveillance for the most trivial of reasons - such as whether or not a person's dog fouls the sidewalk.

By subjugating British law under the principles of the 1950 ECHR, and preparing to sell out British autonomy to the European Union and its Lisbon Treaty, the British government abuses the constitutional rights of all of its citizens, be they Muslims or non-Muslims. Self-appointed righters of wrongs exist in all spheres of life. Education is no exception. I wrote earlier of how Muslim indoctrination has infiltrated schools in both America and Britain.

The latest example of such indoctrination happened at a Cheshire school on Tuesday July 1st last week. Students in one class at Alsager High School were obliged to partake in a role-playing exercise, where they had to pretend that they were Muslims.

The woman teacher showed the students a movie on Islam before engaging in the role-play. Prayer mats were produced. Two children were made to wear Muslim headgear and the children were made to kneel on the floor to pray to Allah. One parent claimed: "The teacher then asked the class if someone had any water to wash their feet. In essence my child was being forced to behave like a Muslim and pray to Allah."

Two boys refused to "worship" the Muslim deity and were consequently punished with a detention. Five sets of parents complained. One parent, Sharon Luinen, told a local newspaper: "This isn't right, it's taking things too far. I understand that they have to learn about other religions, I can live with that, but it is taking it a step too far to be punished because they wouldn't join in Muslim prayer. Making them pray to Allah, who isn't who they worship, is wrong and what got me is that they were told they were being disrespectful."

Cheshire Council has launched an investigation. It appears that the two boys were disciplined for not being "respectful" to the prophet Mohammed. The entire class missed a refreshment break while made to perform in this charade. One grandfather of a pupil said: "It's absolutely disgusting, there's no other way of putting it... But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war."

At present, politicians, Christian leaders and members of the judiciary appear to be attempting to change society to make it more accommodating to Muslims. When I hear people like Peter Oborne and others comparing the situation of Muslims in Britain to the plight of Jews under Hitler I am perplexed. At no stage did politicians or religious leaders attempt to change German society to make it more user-friendly to Jews.

 

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Adrian Morgan, aka Giraldus Cambrensis of Western Resistance, is UK-based writer and artist. He also writes for Spero News, Family Security Matters and Faithfreedom.org. He has previously contributed to various publications, including the Guardian and New Scientist and is a former Fellow of the Royal Anthropological Society.


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Name: to: Moslem all over the world !!
Date: Tuesday July 08, 2008
Time: 20:39:42 -0700

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If you cannot respect the laws in a country, then don't live in it, don't even visit it. Stay in your own moslem country!!! You came to a country then you wish them to change their laws because of you have different values?? How stupid of you?? Go to other moslem countries, don't visit or come to kuffar countries!!! Moslem are Munafiquun!!!


Name: Mohammad the false prophet, was a vengeful person !!!
Date: Tuesday July 08, 2008
Time: 20:51:32 -0700

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He hates the Jews and the Christian because they didn't accept him as a prophet of God in Medina. Then to make a vengeance to them, he said that Allah curse them. Logically speaking, how could a Supreme Being, curse His own creation ?? Furthermore, if Allah was so almighty, it isn't hard for him to destroy a civilization instead of cursing it !! Also, I suspect that Mohammad was bitten by a dog, so his teaching are hateful of dogs. You ask 10 different Moslem about the 'haram' of a dog, and they will give you 10 different answers. They themselves don't understand much about Islam, yet they are very stubborn concerning their religion. It is not surprising, because the founder of Islam, Mohammad, his brain located in his penis, not his head.


Name: Muslims are hated everywhere
Date: Tuesday July 08, 2008
Time: 21:51:26 -0700

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Those who think Muslims are being targeted in Britain or "the West" have to cast their sights further. If you take a look at any culture in contact with Muslims- whether Indians, Filipinos, Chinese or whatever - you'll find that they all hate Islam. Because of the bad behaviour of Muslims. Because Muslims have mistreated them. Islamophobia doesn't have much to do with the traditional enmity between Islam and the West/Christianity. It's Islam against the world. I don't know how Muslims can complain of discrimination when Britain has bent over backwards to accomodate them. The Leeds Muslim community received government grants up to UK200,000 for Islamic bookshops, schools, youth centre and gym - money ultimately used by the 7/7 bombers for their terrorist activities. It's very typical of Muslims to commit an act of aggression and make themselves look like the victims. I want to know why the West, and Britain in particular, are being so submissive to Islam. Is it Saudi oil money, politicians fishing for votes, some other reason? I can't believe it's all down to political correctness. Nobody can be that political correct. Anyone care to answer?


Name: Sean (USA)
Date: Tuesday July 08, 2008
Time: 22:30:28 -0700

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Peter Khan, and Associate: I have heard so much lying and misrepresentation of the facts from Muslims that I can't help but question the above facts that you have provided in these comment sections. While I do believe that attacks against Muslims increased after 9-11, due to the fact that it was committed in the name of Islam with the support of the Quran and many Muslims, I do not believe they represent the so called "Islamophobia" that so many Muslims and PC police are trying to force on the general public. The attackers are responsible for their own actions regardless of their reasons. And when they attack someone based on their religion it becomes a hate crime, this is even worse then a random crime of opportunity. However, the inate hate and violence that is the cornerstone of Islam is the main driving force behind many of these crimes. Muslims need to recognize this fact if they wish to become part of the Western society that they are currently living in. You can only play the "poor me card" for so long gentlemen before we all get so bored with it that we stop listening.


Name: The real situation.
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 02:31:20 -0700

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Muslims are killing Christians in Philippines, Indonesia, Turkey, Egypt, Buddhists in Thailand, Hindus in India, etc. etc. The coummnity of non-Muslims is now going to kill 10 Muslims for each non-Muslim killed. No more talk. Iran will be bombed soon. Don't stop there kill all the devout Muslims in Iran. THE DOGS AND PIGS ARE CLEANER THAN YOU.


Name: Pete
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 04:47:44 -0700

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To say that Muslims are treated even remotely like the Jews were under Hitler or the Jews are in any Muslim country, in MY country is complere rubbish. Muslims are spoiling the place, but they are treated a lot better than your average English bloke.


Name: What is the killing in Turkey for?
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 07:22:18 -0700

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What makes a man go crazy enough to kill an innocent policeman in Turkey? Bearded Muslims go a killing spree. Only the Koran full of hate and murder inspire such irrational actions. You fucking false prophet Mohammed, Son of Satan. Time to destroy ALL THE MUSLIM SITES. May the Sunni and the Shias kill each other. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080709/ap_on_re_mi_ea/turkey_us_consulate_attack


Name: Islam hypnotises men to hate animals.
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 08:37:53 -0700

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Islam hypnotises men to hating animals. It is dead lock irrational stupid thought. World and humanity can no more bear it. Enough is enough.


Name: Jonathan
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 11:50:37 -0700

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I sympathize with victims of hate crime. But islam is associated with hate and so angry non muslims lash out at all muslims. This is wrong but it is easy to understand why they are angry. Hatred begets hatred. I wish islamic people realise that their religion teaches them to hate and commit human rights violations against non muslims. This results in the same reaction from non muslims.


Name: Islam is a cancer and Moslems the disease
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 12:06:27 -0700

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Thank you for writing the truth. Moslems playing the victim and race card is so ridiculous while they are killing people worldwide. Christians and other minorities are being persecuted and murdered all in the name of the false god, Allah, and the self-professed illiterate prophet, pedophile, and murderer, Muhamed. It is revolting that Western governments refuse to name the enemy: Islam and Moslems. Please go back to your filthy Moslem lands and leave the West alone. I, for one, don't want to wear black tents and defile myself.


Name: Ananda
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 13:03:12 -0700

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Because Muslims are terrorists, they are getting sharia in India and special privileges in UK. The obvious solution is to kick them out from both countries.


Name: Dennis Morrod
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 13:46:23 -0700

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Recently, in May, 2008, two Christian men were 'arrested' by the UK police for - preaching in a Muslim area. Local Muslim residents had complained to the police. I doubt very much if those two men knew anything about the points that you make. I will never understand why, totally innocent, unarmed people have to be massacred because of extremeists (read cowards). Innocent people, who in the main have not a clue as to what is going on between Islamic extremists and govenments. The vast majority of the UK public did not want the war to start in Iraq or Afganistan and certainly none of the senseless slaughter since. The attempt to establish by force a 'Caliphate' by al-Qaeda the supposed 'Voice of the Caliphate' has most probably not yet registed with most of the UK's 'Christian' population.


Name: Ananda
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 13:58:11 -0700

Comment

(((About how Muslims are treated like Jews under Hitler))) It is such a big lie that only Muslims can repeat it. But consider this, are any UK Muslim (mostly Pakistani) or Indian Muslim protesting (or even mentioning) the treatment of Hindus in Bangladesh or in Pakistan (oh forgot, there aren't any in Pakistan - they got rid of them by the great Muslim system which is better than Hitler's). Are any UK Muslim protesting minority treatments in any Muslim country. You bet your bippy they are not. They are treated without discrimination in UK - that's exactly what they are protesting. And here is a rat continuously screaming - produce a sura, produce a sura like Allah's sura.


Name: It's riduculous to compare Muslims with Jews
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 19:55:50 -0700

Comment

The Jews did not threaten Germany. They did not try to impose their values on mainstream Germans. Islam is hated for a good reason. They should start looking at themselves before pointing the blame on everyone else.


Name:
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 20:00:15 -0700

Comment

"i didn't see a muslim killing 6 million Jews!" 1)It was 50years ago and this is the worst Europian Trauma, that's why we call it the holocaust.That was in the PAST and HAVE WE learned from it 2) Of all religion's TODAY, which one hates the Muslims so explicitly?If they could they would kill them all and that's more than 6million. 3)Luckely lots of muslim country's don't have the means ???????????????????,maybe WE shouldnt keep it that way! i didn't see muslims invading countries to get fuel! i didn't see muslims occupying some ones country in pretext for Heroin! but then again, hitler didnt kill jews in the name of christianity! he was mentally ill!! Then why not you apply the same rule for those "Muslim" terrorists who killed innocent people??? Hippocrates!!! What about the Imperialist American project that we are living today? If the Iraqis did this to Mike In The USA then they would be bad, but what is BUSH, Isreal & Co doing in their country? Can't you see that the issue is not Islam or Christianity or any other religion? What about the Iraqi and Afghan innocent lives being taken in the dozens everyday as a result of the American occupation. I hate Saddam but this did NOT happen on his watch! What about the Jennin city and its camp in occupied Palestine? What about the Gaza strip? What about the Egyptian soldiers who were brutally murdered by the Israeli army after they have surrendered in 76? What about the ???Israeli??? war on Lebanon several times and the occupation of Lebanon several times. What about the ???Israeli??? gangs who roamed the Palestinian lands under the watch of the British Empire, these gangs massacred Palestinians in cold blood and caused the refugee problem? What about the French occupation of most of Africa? What about the British occupation of Egypt, Jordan, Palestine, Iraq...etc? What about the Italian occupation of Libya and other parts of Africa? What about the Spanish and French occupation of Morocco? What about the British colonization of the whole world and the division they created between the same people of the same nation wherever they went? Look around you my friends!


Name:
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 20:01:36 -0700

Comment

It's tasteless for the MCB and MAB to trot out their persecution rhetoric during the 7/7 anniversary. Whatever grievances they may have, say it at another time. Let the victims mourn in peace. This is supposed to be their day and the Muslims managed to make it all about them.


Name: vbv
Date: Thursday July 10, 2008
Time: 02:56:13 -0700

Comment

Muslims have a sense of exaggerated self-pity in a non-muslim society and they exploit it to the hilt to extract all kind of concessions from the Kaffirs, whilst conceding nothing to the Kaffirs, pretending to hurt for any inane reason. By comparing themselves with the jews of Germany in the 1930s , they are implicating falsely the British regime which is actually very tolerant and , even very 'supplicant' to the so-called 'muslim sensitivities'. This is a typical "taqiyya" to impose the arabian barbarism / Sharia covertly in the body p[olity of the UK. They refuse to assimilate in the British society or respect its laws ,whyile proclaiming allegiance to the arabic barbarism called Sharia, which is also supposed to be 'divine' , which is just BULLSHIT! It is high time that nonmuslims called their bluffs and outright LIES . If they are unhappy with the dispensation in their country of their adoption ,they should be asked to go back to their country of origin or any of those islamic paradises like Saudi Arabia,Iran,Iraq,Pakistan,Bangladesh, Nigeria ,Sudan ,Somalia,Algeria,Ethiopia, Libya,Palestine,etc where they may find full happiness and satisfaction of "islamic way of living"!


Name: MUHAMED THE ISLAMIC PROPHET IS A TERRORIST
Date: Thursday July 10, 2008
Time: 11:02:40 -0700

Comment

The following is eveidence that muhamed is a terrorsit Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings. Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror' Muhamed admits he is a terrorsit


Name: ISLAM TELLS MUSLIMS TO TERRORISE NON MUSLIMS
Date: Saturday July 12, 2008
Time: 12:17:51 -0700

Comment

This is the evidence that muhamed justifies terrorism Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" Sura (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." Sura (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..." This is evidence that muhamed encourages terrorism


Name: akhter
Date: Saturday July 12, 2008
Time: 14:54:17 -0700

Comment

http://talkislam.wordpress.com/2006/03/25/islam-and-hinduism/


Name: anthony hill
Date: Sunday July 13, 2008
Time: 04:11:45 -0700

Comment

If only then they might bugger off, but I doubt it they keep coming. What sort of people try to destroy the very people who gave them refuge from Somalia,s never ending wars I never gave them a thought I like most English men I thought their religion was their business.if they wanted to stick their arses in the air and shout down to their god under the ground its not my business.I never thought the silly sods would listen to him, You have to watch them and dont get too close to them, they hate everybody including themselves.Who would want to dress his wife in blackout material. we stuck it on the windows during the last war to stop German bombers seeing any light. I dont know if they want to stop light getting in from us or stop their darkness getting out to us, if its not either then what practical use is it.If its to stop us kuffa,s looking at their women who wants to, I,m sick of seeing naked women wasting space where somthing intellegent could be written in our newspapers.They are an altogether strange people I can tell you. If me an English man was to do the things they do they would have me in a bath of cold water then stick electrodes on my head,give me the most awful shock then ask me if I felt better, and I would be glad to say yes.I dont know why they dont do it to some of them,and they want the whole world to be like them, as if the world aint got enough nut cases in it without it becoming muslim.That goes to show you the state they have got themselves into I thought the Yanks had got it all wrong, but when the nutcases start getting too numerous blowing themselves up in front of people and flying aircraft into buildings, killing all those cleaners and janitors and those who came in early to get the place ready for a days work. its time to have a bit of a clean out where the problem is. Its a pity theres not something like ant powder that affects those who have really gone islam loopy.Then we could powder the islamic world and leave the rest in peace.(Till they breed up again)but I,m worried about Old England most We,ve got West Indians going nuts on Canabis Then the Irish who are naturally nuts,then the goverment allows these muslims in and there religon drive them nuts as if we aint got enough nutters of our own.


Name: Pueblo Itzcoatl
Date: Sunday July 13, 2008
Time: 08:26:49 -0700

Comment

Expressions like "the bloody history of Islam" are what I've always been surprised at. Those who like to talk on this topic usually remember the conquest of Persia, Central Asia and Spain. I don't deny the fact that wars did took place in Islamic history but statements about "the bloody history of Islam" are, let us say... an exaggeration. It is still more funny that we hear it from those whose own history is really a history of constant violence & murder. It's quite enough to mention the religious wars in the 16th century, uncountable wars in the 18th & 19th centuries and the two world wars. Can you remember a single peaceful period in the history of Europe...except the last decades, of course? Some people like the notorious Robert Spencer justify the Crusades and seriously tend to characterize them as "defensive wars against Muslim agressors". I wonder if they regard the religious wars in Europe as defensive? Was it Muslims who annihilated the native inhabitants of North America and Australia? Burned the Jews in gas chambers? You should think with your own brains instead of retelling dubious writings. Who were the founding fathers of the Great Isreal?? The founding fathers were The first terrorists in my book.


Name: To Mr.Pueblo
Date: Sunday July 13, 2008
Time: 12:55:26 -0700

Comment

Mr. Pueblo the history of the world is bloody. That much is correct. But wars in europe cannot be justified by anything written in the gospel. If you think it is please quote any sentence from the gospel justifying conflict. Islam has many statements which justify violence in the name of religion. Not just for self defense. But for spreading the message of islam. Read some of the earlier posts on this page itself. That is the difference between christianity and islam. Hitler never slaughtered jews in the name of christianity. Hitler was championing the cause of germans as a superior race which goes against christianity which declares God loves everyone. I welcome debate.


Name: Pueblo Itzcoatl
Date: Tuesday July 15, 2008
Time: 07:53:11 -0700

Comment

In my openion Islam Does not have any statements which justify violence in the name of religion.. But for spreading the message of islam . As a non Muslim I have understood to an extent the Quran all though there are many Fake ones circulated in the market place.

Sura[2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have surrendered.

Sura[42:36-38] So whatever thing you are given, that is only a provision of this world's life, and what is with Allah is better and more lasting for those who believe and rely on their Lord, and those who shun the great sins and indecencies, and whenever they are angry they forgive, and those who respond to their Lord and keep up prayer, and their rule is to take counsel among themselves, and who spend out of what We have given them.

Over time, however, as discrimination and persecution resulted to Muslims and the influence of Islam deccreased as the percentage of Muslims in the society forceibily converted or exterminated, the Islamic world declined" That's happening in North Africa too! Even after the 2nd WW Turkey was established as a secular state by its conqurers.Now go back in recent history and come to modern day. You will find that the Muslim world has been under oppression by the western governments under the cover of modernization and secular states. Hitler never slaughtered jews in the name of christianity. Hitler was championing the cause of germans as a superior race which goes against christianity which declares God loves everyone. Then did muslims invade countries to get fuel! did muslims occupy some ones country in pretext that that it was the gods chosen Land!


Name: ANSWER MY QUESTION MR. PUEBLO
Date: Tuesday July 15, 2008
Time: 10:38:03 -0700

Comment

Mr. Pueblo you agree that quran encourages violence against non muslims to spread islam. And is that acceptable to you? I want you to give me a definitive answer to this question.


Name: Pueblo Itzcoatl
Date: Tuesday July 15, 2008
Time: 19:55:18 -0700

Comment

I really don???t know from where you get the story that Islam encourages violence against non Muslims to spread Islam. I really don???t believe from the bottom of my heart that Islam encourages violence who annihilated the native inhabitants of North America and Australia? Then sent the missionaries. Who Burned the Jews in gas chambers? It was not Muslims. I work with a couple good and peaceful Muslims who are very tolerant, that???s why I make my comments. (Terrorism = Person using organized violence against governments) Sura[2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have surrendered.


Name: Mr. Pueblo You are not being honest
Date: Wednesday July 16, 2008
Time: 17:19:17 -0700

Comment

If you belive that islam does not encourage violence against muslims how can you explain the suras I have quoted? These suras clearly ask muslims to use violence against non muslims to spread islam. Ther is nothing mentioned in the verses i quoted about self defense or other factors. By quoting verse in the quran which call for tolerance towards non muslims and non violence during conversion does not negate (cancel) the suras encouraging violence. It only shows that there are contradictions in the quran. This only shows that islam is a false teaching. Can you point out any contradictions in christs teaching? mr. Pueblo please be truthful, rather than sticking to your beliefs without logical foundation. Here are the verses i quoted earlier.Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Sura (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"Sura (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."Sura (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..." CAN YOU EXPLAIN THESE VERSES? PLEASE DONT GIVE ME VERSES WHICH SAY THE OPPOSITE BECAUSE THIS MEANS THAT THERE IS CONTRADICTIONS IN THE QURAN. NO TEACHING CAN BE TRUE IF IT CONTRADICTS ITSELF.


Name: Pueblo Itzcoatl
Date: Friday July 18, 2008
Time: 02:28:48 -0700

Comment

Why dont you read the entire suras. Better if you could start by reading Sura 2, then make any clarifications i will try to answer you. I just mentioned a couple of Suras along with it to note whether you do understand. Sadly you didnt. Anyway please try reading it alright?


Name: THE PROPHET MOHAMMED
Date: Friday July 18, 2008
Time: 09:47:38 -0700

Comment

These Muslims want to compair themselves to the Jews yet they hate everyone. They complain about our countries yet they keep on coming. They are the most hypocritical kind of being that has ever existed. They talk of racisim against them so that they can do their violent acts without being stopped. And who is that terrorist in the first picture -he has hate written all over his face! They love to kill look at how they welcomed the child murderer to one of their perfect countries, Libanon. Murderers is what they are and we are fools for tolerating their crap. That fat man who had, he claimed a 14 year old shoving his face up her breast, is a dreamer, a lier and is true to his Mohammed that sodomite son of a bitch. I hate Muslims and I have to deal with them every day so I know what I am talking about. To all mohammedans - your teacher is a puff, a child molester and his mother was a whore who had to leave him with his uncle so that she could open up to the world.


Name: To Mr. Itzcoatl
Date: Friday July 18, 2008
Time: 10:54:12 -0700

Comment

(((Over time, however, as discrimination and persecution resulted to Muslims and the influence of Islam deccreased as the percentage of Muslims in the society forceibily converted or exterminated, the Islamic world declined" ))) If they were forcibly converted, exterminated as you say, there won't be 1.2 bil Muslims today. Their numbers declined my ass!____ (((Even after the 2nd WW Turkey was established as a secular state by its conqurers.))) And secularism is a bad thing?____ (((Now go back in recent history and come to modern day. You will find that the Muslim world has been under oppression by the western governments ))) Muslim countries have been independent for decades. Yes, Western governments have been shady in their dealings but that's not the be all and end all. Everyone has been screwed by the West, but if you look at countries like Japan and S.Korea they're doing very well. Even Vietnam is an emerging economy ____(((Then did muslims invade countries to get fuel! ))) They don't have to. They HAVE the fuel.


Name: To Mr. Itzcoatl
Date: Friday July 18, 2008
Time: 11:05:00 -0700

Comment

(((I really don???t know from where you get the story that Islam encourages violence against non Muslims to spread Islam. ))) How can you not if you have read the Qur'an. Did you manage to miss the 80% of the verses which call for hatred toward unbelievers?____ (((who annihilated the native inhabitants of North America and Australia? Then sent the missionaries. Who Burned the Jews in gas chambers? It was not Muslims. ))) There's no point detailing other people's wrongs as if that justifies Islam's. Nobody's saying the West is blameless. Our contention is that Islam encourages violence. It is directly responsible for the hostile acts of Muslims today.____ (((I work with a couple good and peaceful Muslims who are very tolerant, ))) Just because you met a couple of nice Muslims doesn't mean Islam is alright. Many Muslims don't know their own religion. Their leaders had to water it down for the sake of social harmony because if they taught the true Islam, everybody would be like Osama bin Laden. Don't thin I don't know what I'm talking about either, I live in a Muslim country.


Name: Re To Mr. Itzcoatl July 18, 2008
Date: Tuesday July 29, 2008
Time: 07:43:52 -0700

Comment

For the Muslims belief there is only one God who created everything. God's world is a good world, and when people obey or submit to God then life is good. The word 'Islam' means submission. Although God made humans superior to the rest of creation, Muslims believe that this means humans of all races have been given everything on earth to care for and look after. The world is not ours to do with as we want. The Quran teaches that mankind should be thankful for all living things, for God is the creator of all life. Mankind is given knowledge. It is how he uses this knowledge for the betterment of this world that make the world a happy place. So shouldn???t mankind give praise to his creator? That???s why Muslims must pray at least five times a day to thank the creator, avoid evil deeds and perform righteous deeds that gain merit in the next world and live in peace with all in this world.


Name: wally
Date: Wednesday July 30, 2008
Time: 22:46:02 -0700

Comment

Cripes, that last poster was full of it. The quickest way for a mo-follower to get to paradise is to get killed while trying to kill infidels in the course of jihad. Some of us have read the verse of the sword, my weasel tongued friend.


Name:
Date: Saturday August 02, 2008
Time: 07:48:18 -0700

Comment

As recorded in the Bible, God told ancient Israel that its people were to serve as a good example to other nations. Therefor God presented them with an unparalleled system of laws ( The Ten Commandmants ) that, if adhered to, would have provided peace and justice for all its citizens.???The Quran [2:83] And (remember) when We took a covenant from the Children of Israel, (saying): Worship none but Allah (Alone) and be dutiful and good to parents, and to kindred, and to orphans and Al-Masakin (the poor)???,God meant for other nations to see for themselves the blessings and wisdom that would naturally stem from Israel's way of life and voluntarily choose it for themselves. Notice Moses' words concerning the laws God gave to Israel: "I have taught you statutes and laws, as the LORD my God commanded me; see that you keep them ... Observe them carefully, for thereby you will display your wisdom and understanding to other peoples. When they hear about all these statutes and laws, they will say, 'What a wise and understanding people this great nation is!' What great nation has a god close at hand as the LORD our God is always dear to us whenever we call to him? What great nation is there whose statutes and laws are so just, as is all this code of laws which I am setting before you today?" (Revised English Bible) Those laws, if studied and applied, would lead to greater peace in the Middle East. ???The Quran [82:43] And indeed We gave Musa (Moses), after We had destroyed the generations of old, the Scripture [the Taurat (Torah)] as an enlightenment for mankind, and a guidance and a mercy, that they might remember (or receive admonition).


Name: Allah is the pagan moon god of Mecca!
Date: Sunday September 14, 2008
Time: 08:35:20 -0700

Comment

Allah was the pagan moon god of Mecca before Islam! Mohammad's father was Abdullah meaning servant of Allah. So Muslims all over the world continue in the worship of Allah the pagan moon god! Today the symbol for Islam is the crescent moon! Mecca was the center of pagan pilgrimage. Today Muslims all over the world continue the pagan practice of pilgrimage to Mecca! Pagan Mecca had a white stone, a red stone, and a black stone. Mohammad kissed the black stone. Today Muslims all over the world continue their reverence to the black stone!


Name: ahmed mohammed
Date: Monday September 22, 2008
Time: 22:23:39 -0700

Comment

first i hope the one who says that the christian in egypt are killed to know and read well before saying any word we lived in the islamic countries with the christian as brothers and sisters we respect thier religioun and they respect ours.and about the one who says about mohammed its not our proplemthat you dont know about aman who change the humanity to the peace and merci you are aman with no cultue in your brain and mohammed teached us to respect the others opinions so i respect all of you you have to know that we are not terrorist like we have people do crimes in the name of islam you to have the same .history is not lying all muslims are against racism vviolence and terrorist


 
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