Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Britain – Raising Homegrown Terrorists

23 Apr, 2008

Failures of Policy

Though his presence has hardly made any impact compared to the Pope, Britain's near-invisible prime minister Gordon Brown has been visiting the United States. Brown's trip to the States happens as his popularity plunges at home, and he faces a rebellion from the ranks of his Labour Party. Once again, Brown quotes Winston Churchill. At home, Brown never quotes Churchill. He would be savaged by the press for hypocrisy.

It is not the first time Brown that has resurrected the ghost of Churchill in a bland attempt to impress America. In July last year on his first visit to America as prime minister, he used words lifted from a famous speech by Churchill. To resurrect Churchill for a second time indicates either a lack of imagination on Brown's part, or he patronizingly thinks Americans are so shallow they can only relate to Churchill as an influential British politician.

In 1975, while rector of Edinburgh University, Gordon Brown wrote fawningly of Antonio Gramsci, founder of the Italian Communist party. For socialist Brown to compare himself to Churchill would make the former Tory statesman turn in his grave.

Gordon Brown was the "right-hand man" of Tony Blair until June 27, 2007, so he cannot be absolved of the messes that Labour has made since it assumed power in May 1997. Ever since July 7, 2005, there have been ample opportunities for Britain to work out a coherent strategy against homegrown terrorism. Sadly, the Labour Party is too dependent upon Muslim votes in inner cities to really produce any strategy of substance.

In the aftermath of 7/7, instead of ensuring that potential extremists were kept under control, the Labour government acted to appease the Muslim "representatives." When Tony Blair wanted to ban the Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir, his own advisory group, the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) refused to support the move, and Hizb is still active in Britain nearly three years later. The MCB claims to be moderate but has a history of relations with Islamists. Indeed, the group was co-founded by Kemal el-Helbawy, a prominent Muslim Brotherhood member.

In 2005, Home Office minister Hazel Blears was sent on a tour of Muslim communities and came back with the anodyne statement: "What we have discussed today is the need to teach the true nature of Islam, which is about peace and love." The Muslims who killed 52 civilians in London on 7/7 were well-versed in Islam, but were hardly radiating "peace and love" for their fellow citizens when they detonated their explosive rucksacks.

The British government has attempted to deal with Muslim extremism by dishonestly pretending that extremists are not Muslims. They are. They just happen to be extreme Muslims. Such blinkered approaches continue and the current Home Secretary is either naive or dishonest when she maintains that Islamist terrorism is "anti-Islamic activity."

In 2006, the Labour government wasted tax-payers’ money by creating a Muslim website that claims to be moderate, entitled "The Radical Middle Way." Funds are being thrown at Islamic extremism, with little hope of actually doing anything. Meanwhile, the Foreign Office wastes tax-payers' money on sending groups of Muslims abroad to Muslim countries to meet other Muslims to "share their experiences."

The Foreign Office spends much time trying to "reach out" to Islamofascists. In 2005, it approved of the disastrous "Waziristan Accord," a peace deal between the Taliban and the army in northwestern Pakistan. Though that accord was broken by Islamists within days, Gordon Brown appears to approve of similar acts of appeasement. His Foreign Secretary, David Milliband, is currently in Pakistan to encourage more negotiations with terrorists.

In October 2007 the communities secretary Hazel Blears announced that £70 million would be granted to set up websites so that young Muslims in Britain can discuss their "identity." Currently, the government has increased the annual funding of such hare-brained schemes to £90 million ($180 million).

The latest half-baked attempt by the British government to defuse extremism in the Muslim community is a suggestion to import more foreign imams into Britain. These are to come mainly from Pakistan, a country with such a "moderate" approach to Islam that anyone found guilty of blaspheming against the prophet Mohammed receives a mandatory death sentence. Imams brought up in such a climate are hardly going to understand or support the "liberal" customs of Britain, where freedom of speech is meant to trump religious supremacy. Who is going to decide which of these Pakistani imams is "moderate?"

Fears about extremism, which should first have been addressed in 1989 when British Muslims were calling for the death of author Salman Rushdie, are now being raised in other quarters. Prisons have long been known to create climates where radicalism spreads like a virus. The prison where most Muslim terrorists are housed is Belmarsh in Woolwich, southeast London. On April 15th this year, a report on prison radicalism was published.

This report by prisons inspector Anne Owers found that at Belmarsh the warders "do not understand" the prison's 198 Muslim detainees. It is not the duty of prison officers to “understand” their prisoners, merely to keep control, but Owers complains that this leads to isolation. Owers wrote that "there was a real danger that the alienation of Muslim prisoners in general, and the suspicion with which they perceived they were treated, would in fact feed radicalisation."

The irony of worrying about Muslims in Belmarsh – already notorious for their extremism – becoming extremists is lost on Ms. Owers. Her report was based upon an inspection made in October 2007. Since then, Yassin Nassari, a prisoner who is now freed, apparently tried to blow up the prison and had to be moved out in November 2007. In March this year, the Muslim Boys staged a riot in Belmarsh prison. This gang is famous for its forcible conversions. At Christmas 2007 one of the gang tried to kidnap a Belmarsh prison officer and hold him for ransom.

The "moderate" Muslim who acts as the Prison Service's Muslim adviser is Ahtsham Ali. He recently showed what use he is to Britain's social needs by stating that the penal service's attempts to rehabilitate Muslim sex offenders were "against Islam." Sex offenders are expected to openly discuss their crimes, but Ali objects to this. He says his objections are based upon a "legitimate Islamic position" but does not quote his Islamic sources. If this view is "legitimate" it is not well known. Should the prison service pander to a sex criminal's "religion" when public safety is at stake?

Most Muslims in Britain are peaceful, but to pretend that Islamists are not "real" Muslims is a potentially dangerous policy. Islamists tend to be better-versed in Islamic texts than many of the so-called "moderates." Any realistic strategy against extremism must take this into consideration.

Abu Izzadeen

Abu Izzadeen is certainly well-versed in Islam. A former member of Omar Bakri Mohammed's Al Muhajiroun group, which was disbanded in October 2004, Izzadeen is a convert. He was born in 1976 in Hackney, London, to a Christian family of Jamaican origin. His birth name was Trevor Brooks, but when he converted to Islam just before his 18th birthday he changed his first name to Omar.

His current name "Abu Izadeen" means "Might of the Faith," a title which reflects his rampant narcissism. In January 2001, he featured in a video taken by the BBC, in which he stated: "Because I believe America is one of the places where we should be bombing those...er, the Government. There are some Muslims that go to America, because obviously, you know, like firearms is available inside America, to be trained legally. So why not take that opportunity to use, the heart of the enemy that's attacking us."

Izzadeen's egotism has led him to make pronouncements designed to attract attention. Just days before 7/7, he said Muslims must "instill terror into the hearts of the kuffar". He declared "I am a terrorist. As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist."

In 2004 he was unofficially preaching in Regents Park Mosque. He said: "He who joins the British Army, the American Army, he is a mortal kaffir and his only hukum (punishment) is for his head to be removed. Indeed, whoever changes his deen (Muslim code of life); kill him."

In 2005 after the bombings of 7/7 he boasted on BBC of his support for bin Laden and his contempt for the civilians who died on London Transport: "I believe many people say you shouldn't negotiate with terrorists. It's a common theme, put in the media. But I'm sure, if you asked those who passed away on the 7th of July, should we negotiate with terr- Osama bin Laden, I'm sure they'd say 'Yes'. To bring their lives back, to save themselves from the burning inferno underground, they would have said, 'Let's negotiate'." He described the London bombings as "completely praiseworthy."

On April 24, 2007 Izzadeen was arrested. A police spokesman explained that the arrest was for "alleged incitement and radicalization for the purposes of terrorism, as well as alleged provision of financial support for international terrorism."

On February 4th this year, Abu Izzadeen appeared at Kingston Crown Court in west London. He was named "Omar Brooks" by the court. On trial with him were six other people who were arrested at the same time as him. These were Abdul Rehman Saleem, 32, Shah Jalal Hussain, 25, Rajib Khan, 29, Ibrahim Abdullah Hassan, 25, Abdul Muhid, 25, and Simon Sulayman (Suliman) Keeler, 36. All defendants were members of Al Muhajiroun or the groups that succeeded it.

All were accused of fundraising for terrorism, and five Brooks, Saleem, Keeler, Khan and Ibrahim Abdullah Hassan) were accused of inciting terrorism overseas. Izzadeen was additionally charged with encouragement of terrorism and Hassan was charged with possessing a document for terrorist purposes. The charges stem from an unofficial demonstration they had made at Regents Park Mosque on November 9, 2004.

Abdul Rahman Saleem and Abdul Muhid had already been convicted and were in jail for comments they had made on February 3, 2006 at another rally against the Danish cartoons. Saleem (aka Abu Yahya) was convicted of "using words likely to stir up racial hatred" and is serving a four year jail term. Muhid is serving six years for soliciting murder. On Thursday, April 17th last week, Izzadeen was found guilty of fundraising for terrorism and inciting terrorism overseas. Two of his co-defendants, white convert Simon Keeler and Shah Jalal Hussain, were also found guilty of fundraising for terrorism. On April 8th, Shah Jalal Hussain had run off after being sent to hospital. He returned to the court on Friday April 18th. The other defendants were found guilty of inciting terror abroad.

On Friday, Izzadeen was jailed for four and a half years. Under Britain's current system, he will serve less than half of that time in jail. He would officially spend only 27 months in jail if he behaves in jail, but he has already spent 14 months in custody. He should be free in May 2009. Judge Nicolas Price described Izzadeen as "arrogant, contemptuous and utterly devoid of any sign of remorse."

Simon Keeler was given the same sentence, while Saleem received a jail term of three years and nine months. This will start as soon as he completes his existing jail term. On November 9, 2004, Saleem had preached: "Destroy the kafir wherever they are. Let their blood run in the mountains of Afghanistan, let their women become widows, may their children become orphans, let them be bombed. Let death come to them by the hands of the mujahideen."

Ibrahim Hassan was jailed for two years and nine months. Abdul Muhid was sentenced to two years' jail for fundraising for terrorists. He will commence this sentence when he has served his existing jail term for soliciting murder.

Shah Jalal Hussain was given a two year jail term for terror fundraising, with an additional three months for absconding and breaking his terms of bail.

The convictions could be seen as a "success." However, it took two and a half years from the time of the Regents Park events until the defendants' arrest. During that time, Abu Izzadeen had gone on to become a media "celebrity," celebrating the deaths of the victims of 9/11, heckling a Home Secretary, telling the public that any Muslim soldier who fought other Muslims deserved to die and using BBC radio to promote hate.

Most of the convicted men had attended the demonstration on February 3, 2006. The demonstration, where placards called for those who insulted Islam to be beheaded, was organized by Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah, which had been founded by Simon Keeler and other former Al Muhajiroun members in November 2005. Five people received jail terms for inciting racism and soliciting murder at that demonstration, but many more guilty people never appeared in court.

Ahlus Sunnah wal Jammah members also heckled Catholic worshippers at Westminster Cathedral but police did not arrest or prosecute anyone.

Dangerous Converts

Izzadeen and Simon Keeler were converts, who came into the fold of radical Islam through the actions of foreign-born preachers Omar Bakri Mohammed and Abu Hamza. If the government and police had acted to silence these migrant preachers of hate in the 1990s, there would certainly be less dangerous Islamists in Britain today.

The failure of the police to deal with Izzadeen and his ilk has allowed Islamism and support for terrorism to be promoted in the media. For young people who wish to rebel against their parents and their culture, Islamic radicalism becomes an attractive prospect.

Some converts appear to be more aggressive than those who inducted them into their new faith, as if they are trying to prove themselves. While Izzadeen was awaiting his sentence, another terrorism drama was unfolding in Britain. And the focus of this drama was, again, a Muslim convert.

On Thursday April 17th, a 19-year old man named Andrew Ibrahim was arrested in Bristol city center. His home at Comb Paddock, Westbury-on-Trym, was searched. Police have not disclosed all the details of the materials that they found in the suspect's home.

The police were concerned enough to evacuate 30 residents from their homes on Thursday night. They then carried out a controlled explosion at Ibrahim's home. A second explosion happened late on Friday.

Avon and Somerset police stated that "a container was safely removed from the home, covered in sandbags and taken to a safe location." The police statement asserted: "we can confirm that he did not own the property and that he has previously come into contact with the police."

The police later said that the first container that was blown up was a "viable device." This suggests that the youth had turned his home into a bomb factory. Residents are still waiting for the all-clear to return to their homes.

Ibrahim has a father from Egypt and a mother from Britain. Nassif Ibrahim works as a consultant pathologist at Frenchay Hospital in Bristol.

Andrew Ibrahm had been living in a hostel for the homeless at the start of the year. He was on a drug treatment order. He initially refused to move into his current home as he did not want to live in a white middle class area. He changed his mind and moved into Comb Paddock on February 4th. He wore traditional Muslim (Arabic) clothing, and played loud Islamic music. He kept his door bolted with multiple locks. One neighbor said: "I saw him walking down the road last week in a linen cotton outfit with chiffon sides."

Ibrahim was well educated at private schools before he became involved in drugs. His conversion to Islam appears to have happened as was "in recovery" from his narcotic problems.

His arrest came from an intelligence tip-off. A police source said: "The arrest was not part of some long-running investigation. What we are trying to establish at the moment is whether this individual was working alone or was part of a team."

Britain's police have allowed Islamists to preach the "virtues" of terrorism for too long. Those preachers have spawned a new generation of radical converts, and these now appear to be having their own influence upon society.

In the name of multiculturalism alien ideologies, which include support for terrorism, have been allowed to thrive without intervention. These policies have failed and have allowed the problem to worsen to the point where terrorism and extremism is even harder to crack. In the past, it was assumed that foreign preachers' support for terrorism abroad was "acceptable" as long as it did not take place on British soil. We know now that such preachers have influenced Muslim terrorists to attack Britain. The genie that was let out of the bottle in the 1990s cannot be stuffed back where it came from.

The politicians who have presided over this appalling state of affairs are Tony Blair and his successor Gordon Brown. Brown does not want his cabinet ministers to use the term "war on terror," and as a result, terrorism continues unimpeded. It seems that Brown and his current cronies, so used to appeasing alien and anti-British ideologies, do not know where to begin in the fight against extremism. If they cannot even mention that we are in a war, then they will never win that war.

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Adrian Morgan, aka Giraldus Cambrensis of Western Resistance, is UK-based writer and artist. He also writes for Spero News, Family Security Matters and Faithfreedom.org. He has previously contributed to various publications, including the Guardian and New Scientist and is a former Fellow of the Royal Anthropological Society.

Name: who is to be the next HITLER ??
Date: Tuesday April 22, 2008
Time: 05:20:40 -0700

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A must watch video about the discrimination against the American born Muslims, most certainly sites like Islam watch and Faith Freedom Org and many other Noe Nazis sites are the main contributors to the suffering of Muslims in USA and the rest of western world. I urge in the name of humanity to stop painting all the Muslims with same brush, stop insulting their faith, stop demonising them. We all know how Hitler started his mission to get rid of the Jews, STOP it before another Hitler is created!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqbQWxHIn4U

Name: ZuK
Date: Tuesday April 22, 2008
Time: 19:08:47 -0700

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Hey, mister no-name: "Noe" is not a word in English. It's "Noah" in Spanish :) But you keep COPYING AND PASTING without even checking your spelling!! Pathetic.... "Noe Nazis" LOOOOOOOOL

Name: islam is a curse on humanity
Date: Tuesday April 22, 2008
Time: 21:06:58 -0700

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islam is a curse on humanity

Name:
Date: Tuesday April 22, 2008
Time: 22:38:28 -0700

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Bush and Blair sank together in Iraq on the false pretext of WMD and the impending danger to the west - more especially 'Israel'. What is the result? After six years of war these so-called great powers stand humiliated with failure from all sides. They could not bring "democracy" to Iraq , together they have butchered over 700,000 Iraqis for no fault of theirs (which is far more than what Sadam Hussein could achieve in his almost three decades of 'misrule'), brought radical islam and terrorism into Iraq, GENERALLY MADE THE LIFE OF AN AVERAGE IRAQI MORE MISERABLE AND UNCERTAIN. What about the life of Christians in Iraq? They are fleeing the country unless they convert to islam enforced by the rabid shiite clerics or their terrorists sunni counterparts. After six years there is no light at the end of the tunnel. The immoral christian fanatics from USA like their evangelical christian preachers can only blow hot and keep bluffing on their achievements/'enlightenment' ,while the situation on the ground is tragic, miserable and bloody with American tyranny. So much for the champions of 'DEMOCRACY'. Damn these hypocrites and blood-sucking mercenaries! If they wanted the vast reserves of oil in Iraq ,they could have negotiated with Saddam Hussein ( who was truly secular ,though a despot) and much Iraqi lives could have been spared and radical islam could have been contained in Afghanistan and Pakistan ,perhaps Saudi Arabia from where radicalism originates! This is what comes from short-sided and corrupt politicians who want to serve their narrow pecuniary and commercial interests!

Name: Even more clot zombies to come!
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 01:26:29 -0700

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There are many more clot zombies to come from muslim underground labs in London and elsewhere. The security authorities should have a close look to all islamic blood and clot donors as well as the islamic hospitals which are collecting clot to produce more clot zombies.

Name: pmk
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 06:11:57 -0700

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If Labour is selling out Britain in order to win elections then who is voting for them? All non-Muslim Labour supporters who think this is unconscionable need to stop voting for Labour. Maybe the Tories aren't your cup of tea. Do you want your descendants learning how Gordon Brown was their last prime minister before the province of al-Brittain joined dar-al-Islam? It's in your hands. Don't blame Brown. Don't blame Bush. Don't blame Blair. YOU are the ones casting votes.

Name: balam
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 07:37:19 -0700

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Muslims have been controlled by allah and mohammad, only by instilling fear in them for the last 1400 years. Thats the only language they understand. You can not talk logically with them. Britain is like an old tiger, which has lost its teeth. It has nothing great left about it,if it rolls on the grond to appease the Muslims, who are nothing but a windbag. If you stand up to them, they would lick your boots. The present leadership is bending forward to appease the Muslims, who were invited into this compassionate and civilised country to blend in ,and better the future of their future generations. It is like a stupid camel, who agreed to help a SCORPIAN cross a stream.Half way through, the SCORPIAN stung the camel.IT was very painful.The camel asked the SCORPION, why he was stung and repaid in that ungrateful manner. The Scorpion replied: You fool, dont you know, it is in my nature: British Government should care for British people first, whose forefathers gave sacrifices to make this country GREAT. The mulims have only one agenda and that is to destroy this Great Country, because that is in their nature to bite the very fingers that feed them.

Name: fightingthiscrazycult
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 07:38:43 -0700

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.Allah is not God. 2. Muslims speaking thar qoran is not corrupted, but where are satanic verses? Not telling that Mohy himself said it can be changed if this is Allah wish (?!). 3. Mohammed wasn't prophet, he didn't do any miracle or some good deed for humanity. He was just an illerate pedophile preaching hate. 4.Have muslims ever tought blowing themself up and leave us non-belivers here on earth in peace? Isn't there a special place in (muslim) heaven for people died for Allah anyway? 4: If muslims believe Jesus was just a normal person why they think he would come on the doomsday? 5. Religion should be spiritual, what islam isn't.

Name: Kastrioti Skenderbeg
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 07:45:12 -0700

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Watch this video to see the political reality of Iraq. http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1746.htm Muslim's and Arabs in particular, are still upset that Iraq's are able to vote, recognise freedom, and observe the reality of radical Islam. Iraqi's got to see first hand what extremists groups like Al Qaeda practice and how they quote the Koran to justify over and over again their psychotic violence. And rather than euro muslims acknowledging that freedom comes with a cost, like every country before who has acquired freedom, they ignorantly demonise the death count, wake up mental weaklings, freedom isn't free! Were you so upset when Saddaam was doing the killing with no reward for the people? There are those who hate freedom (islamists) and will kill to get their point across and cite the koran to justify it. We call it like we see's it, the radical islamists are the ones speaking for all of Islam, that is a muslim problem, and only muslims can fix. (if they even want to, which they make very little effort to do so) Whiney euro muslims are anti-freedom, they prove it over and over again with their incessant crying. Democracy can only be attained by fighting for it! (a paradox yes, but reality none-the-less) Your iraqi brothers will be the first true arabic-muslim democracy, and I can see why most muslims in the world are upset by the situation.(they apparantly hate freedom) http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1746.htm

Name: to the first post
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 07:45:22 -0700

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speaking about muslim discrimination is ignorance and double morality, because the suffering of nonmuslims in islamic countries is much more higher!!! You muslims should first clean infront your house and do some democracy and than maybe we should talk!!!!!

Name: Be cool!
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 12:05:08 -0700

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I do not believe that Islam will ever rule the world. Islam is too weak, much weaker than the communist empire USSR was before it declined. Communism looked so powerful only two decades ago but what happened to it? It almost disappeared from earth. On the other hand, Islam is even weaker because it is unable to develop at all. Isn´t Mohammad the very last prophet in Islam? That´s why there cannot be any meaningful development and there will never be enough educated muslim people to develop new technologies, weapons and anything a modern society needs. They are so overdue and the only problem remaining is that they haven´t realized it yet. But they will. And then, Islam will be over.

Name: The Prophet Mohammed
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 13:24:50 -0700

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These mohamedans speak of discrimination against them as an excuse to act out their acts of violence against us yet in their own countries they treat people who disagree with them with contempt. Most of those who followed the Jewish faith were kicked out of their homes and Christians are treated as traiters. In Idonaisia they even want to expell their own people from their own country! Mohamedans should thank us for allowing them to be free and leave us alone. In Muslim countries Hitler is a hero. They are bigots and ignorant. Politicians in OUR countries are weak and scared of having to face an oil embargo from those in Mohamedan cult countries. However oil is not infinitive and what goes up must come down.

Name: Australia and Indonesia
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 13:50:23 -0700

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20 Million Australians produce as much as 200 Million Indonesians. Why? Because Islam is so superior? 2 Million Singapurians produce as much as 20 million Malaysians. Why? because Islam is so superior? Can anybody explain to me why there is no islamic country with democracy and successful economy? The fact is that secularism is successful in western and far eastern countries. However, in islamic countries islamization is the trend. But even Turkey, a country with a secular constitution since 1924 is still much behind some non-muslim countries such as south korea, taiwan, hong kong and singapur. Why? Because Islam is the problem and not the solution.

Name: moderationist
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 15:11:45 -0700

Comment

Join Islam and become a thug murderer and blame all your self created problems on the jews

Name: Reversepsychology
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 15:46:42 -0700

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Although Gordon Brown is a complete no mark throughout the rest of the world, he is probably the worst prime minister in the history of the British Isles. Connivance not conviction is what he is becoming increasingly renowned for, and with true Marxist theory, he implements his poison on the British public at large. To quote Churchill at any time or anywhere is hypocritically shallow, from a man who has far more in common, with not only Lenin, but Stalin as well. He hates Britain, and more so England, with a passion that has seen: A Mugabe style accession to power, unelected and unopposed by his New Labour cohorts - Open border immigration: - Appeasement of everything and everybody other than his own peoples - A hand over of power to the E.U. without allowing the British peoples a referendum on the issue, as he knew damned well he'd lose - The highest taxes in the history of our Nation - Politically Correct dogma to the point of overkill - A breaking up of the Country of England into three separate sections under the E.U. treaty (The English are far too Nationalistic and Patriotic for Browns liking) - 8500 guanos: (unelected bodies of people) formed to do the governments dirty work for them, under the control of an ex Communist and New Labour Lackie (Julia Middleton) and her sinister organisation Common Practice. It is easy to deride the bland, unassuming figure of Brown from outside these shores, but make no mistake; this man is a control freak of Stalin like proportions, only far dourer and far less interesting. The man is treacherous scum, who if he could find a way would introduce Mugabe style elections to hold onto power.

Name: Allat
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 17:27:31 -0700

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To: Reverse Psychology - You say, --------------"Although Gordon Brown is a complete no mark throughout the rest of the world, he is probably the worst prime minister in the history of the British Isles" ---------------- I thought Tony "Poodle" Blair was the worst.____________I guess each one is worse than the previous.--- :)

Name: Tony
Date: Wednesday April 23, 2008
Time: 23:34:33 -0700

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a fine article - BUT once more I see this strange term MODERATE applied to moslems! does anyone mind a MODERATE burglar? how about a MODERATE paedophile? or being deceived by a MODERATE liar? and, of course, we don't mind being killed by a MODERATE murderer? teh word is just part of the smokescreen used by MODERATE PC idiots to obscure the danger of any level of islam.

Name: What Islam really is
Date: Thursday April 24, 2008
Time: 02:12:16 -0700

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Islam is the mildew of the world, covering and suffocating the creativity of once flourishing civilisations in Mesopotamia, Egypt, Iran, India and many more. Are there any scientific or technological innovations coming from the muslim world? How about arts and literature? In islam it is even forbidden to paint humans or animals or to create them from plaster. And why should anybody write poems or novels if there is one written by god? Muslims don´t need literature made by humans because they believe that their quran is written by god. There is a monotony in islamic societies which reminds of communism, because there is no tolerance against other ideas. But it is even worse. The communists supported education, that´s why many former communist countries achieve high growth rates and in a few years they will be able to compete with the west. In contrast, in islamic countries education is badly neglected. That´s why we will see the worst crisis the world has ever seen once the islamic world collapses. I expect this to happen in a few decades, if not much earlier. Who will feed all this people then?

Name: DH
Date: Thursday April 24, 2008
Time: 07:57:25 -0700

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"Most Muslims in Britain are peaceful". To the extent that they are not PRESENTLY actively engaged in planning, executing or providing practicle support for violent activities. Of course a TRULY "peaceful Muslim" is contradicting the Koran's assertion that "fighting is obligatory whether you like it or not" and is therefore technically a munafiq and disbeliever. So how do we distinguish these from the Muslims who support violence in their hearts but outwardly condemn it?

Name: NIGARKHAN
Date: Thursday April 24, 2008
Time: 09:05:40 -0700

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Want to know why Islam is a dangerous cult? READ: http://shareefaaali.rediffiland.com/blogs/2007/10/30/What-is-Islam-.html (Copy & Paste the above link correctly, otherwise it may not open.) READ IT & FORWARD IT. Nigarkhan.

Name: Walter Sieruk
Date: Thursday April 24, 2008
Time: 10:29:08 -0700

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The Greek philosopher Plato is one of the contributors to Western Civilization. He may shed some light into the subject of those people who are shackled in the chains and darkness of Islamic thought. In Plato’s REPUBLIC he gave an allegory of a cave where “the condition of men living in a sort of cavernous chamber…Here they have been from childhood, chained by leg and also by the neck, so that they cannot move and see only what is in front of them.” This can fit into what the Imams do in the mosques and how they brainwash the young people in the madrassa’s by always programming Islamic doctrine into their victims and not exposing them to other worldviews. Furthermore, even in Islamic tradition when Muslims have their newborn child the father whispers words of the Quran into the infants ear so that that Quran verses are the first thing the newborn person hears. This programming process takes place all their lives. These are some of the chains that keep them bound in a mosque [cave]. The chains do not let them reach out for dialectic reasoning and let them examine the evidence both for as well as against, or even question whether Muhammad was a true prophet of God or not, and if the Quran is a hoax or not. As the chains and darkness of the cave blinds and holds the prisoners back from reality, so Islamic propaganda holds back the cognition to reason with the question if Islam is true or not. They are forbidden from even thinking to question Islam. Furthermore, if a Muslim by some miracle wakes up to the truth about Islam, it would be like the man in Plato’s cave allegory who was released from his chains and taken outside to the real world. At first direct light would be painful and disorienting, it would take some time for him to understand what the truth is all about, he even might cling to the shadows and still for a time believe some of the illusions to be real. But he would finally come to know “what he had formerly seen was meaningless illusion.” And that was “what passed for wisdom in his former dewelling-place.”And that the other cave prisoners also needed to see the light [the truth] for he “was sorry for them.” and he would re-enter the cave just to rescue them. Nevertheless, the cave prisoners wouldn’t understand and “if they could lay hand on the man who was trying to set them free.” And if they could “they would kill him.” Likewise, when someone escapes from the shackles of Islam, those still in the darkness of this religion would not understand and if possible kill him for leaving Islam, and even more so if he were to try to enlighten them about the truth about Islam. For these people in Islam are chained to an empty imitation of truth and godliness.

Name: pmk
Date: Thursday April 24, 2008
Time: 12:38:15 -0700

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Reversepsychology, so how long will it take for the people of Britain to untie themselves from Labour? I heard all too many Brits say Tony Blair was the worst, especially as the Iraq war continued. He was Bush's poodle. But Brits still gave Labour (and thus, Blair) more time in power. If [New] Labour is that bad then how about voting for someone else?

Name: pmk
Date: Thursday April 24, 2008
Time: 12:46:48 -0700

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Be Cool! - Don't be so smug. Just because Islam is still primitive doesn't guarantee the West will prevail. We might yet, but it could come only after Islamdom has dragged us down to its own putrid level. USSR seemed so powerful a few decades ago? And that was about the time most Europeans wanted to negotiate still further. The USSR was invading country after country and stealing military secrets. The people of Europe wanted peace at any price. They still do, only now it's with the Muslims. I feel fortunate todays Europeans weren't running things in 1492. The downfall of the Soviet Union was not guaranteed by any means. Neither is the demise of Islam. It has survived two world wars and countless smaller ones. Unlike the USSR, it bides its time and is willing to wait for millenia, if that's what it takes. Islam will probably outlive the West, just as rats and roaches will survive Armageddon.

Name: The countdown ...
Date: Thursday April 24, 2008
Time: 13:16:00 -0700

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... of islam has already started. Don´t listen to the islamistic bawlers and paper tigers, they don´t have any real power or influence. It is the free world that has all the know how to invent and to produce almost anything, even to live without oil. The islamic know how is limited to the quran and I would really like to see how to achieve progress with this quranic no-ledge! Relax! A few years and all the bad vibrations will be history and all the bawlers will p**s on the quran and kiss our a***s for a slice of bread. Their crisis is already beginning. It´s their crisis, not ours. Don´t worry, be happy!

Name: It's our countdown, too
Date: Thursday April 24, 2008
Time: 16:46:28 -0700

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Keep dreaming. Don't count on Islam imploding. It's survived 14 centuries. It could have been destroyed more than once. It wasn't. It keeps coming back. The West may yet prevail, but at what price? We won't wean ourselves from oil until there is no oil left. Change is hard.

Name:
Date: Thursday April 24, 2008
Time: 21:29:40 -0700

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Hey Akhter! ...re "quran is most tolerant ,compassionate..." What a blatant LIE! Then explain why minorities are oppressed,humil;iated and always threatened in an muslim majority country,whether proclaimed as 'islamic' nation or not?? Why the properties and their women are always at risk of being confiscated,raped,ravaged at the slightest pretext?? Quran and fucking Hadiths demands that the whole world be islamised or be at war with the 'kafirs' till they yield to the arabic barbarianism! Take your "taqiyya" bullshit of lies and flush them down your own filthy , stinking toilet/LOO! The world has seen your lies and your masquerading ,while your inents are evil and absolutely barbaric, crude ,lecherous and vulgar like your "only prophet" - some 'prophet that lecherous,uncouth bastard!

Name:
Date: Friday April 25, 2008
Time: 01:47:11 -0700

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To "Allah is watching you..." Muhamud was dead 1400 years back and so is Allah with him. Only the mad zealots are perpetuating both their names so that it gives a perfect alilbi to commit unholy acts, indulge in crime, commit mass-murders, rapes, slavery, unleash complete anarchy, terrorise simple folks, subjugate them ,fill their heads with inane, stupid trash and create more clots brain-dead-zombies. Spread ignorance, fear, superstittions and never-ending strife and misery ,stifle individual freedom, demean women, treat women as just sexslaves, ban arts, music, dance, theatre, movies, and all other forms of fine arts and culture to embrace arabian barbarianism. That is in a nutshell what islam is all about with all the most negative and backward traits that goes against civilisation and culture. Taliban and the regime in Saudi Arabia are typical of of 'islamic' barbarianism.This is what Muhamad the fake 'prophet' propogated ,to have ulimited licence to crime and lechery in his lifetime and this is what he promises humanity. Do you think sane human beings will put up with this barbaric cult? It is just the lure of oil and the billions of Dollars in the hands of these frenzied fanatics that is sustaining this rotten cult. It is only a matter of time that oil reserves will run dry and these madcaps will be too cash-strapped to lie and play their dirty games! Mabe they will take up growing opium poppies like the Taliban does to sustain their amoral and treacherous way of life!That islam and its dirty influence will diminish in the near future is certain once the oil reserves run out dry within the 30-40 years. By that time the civilised world would find alternative energy sources (may be hydrogen, which is the most abundant resource in the Universe) and cock a snook at these horrible bedouins from arid Arabia. So the future is indeed very bright for the non-muslims! And certainly very bleak for the muslims and their barbaric cult!

Name: pixy
Date: Friday April 25, 2008
Time: 02:36:20 -0700

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Muslims will wait till the armagedon and waiste all their lifes to realize that Quran is false and Allah doesn't exist. Can't wait.

Name: Re: To "Allah is watching you..."
Date: Friday April 25, 2008
Time: 03:14:36 -0700

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Of course I agree with you. All I wanted was to reveal how stupid and hypocritical the islamists are. Praying is also an example. What is it good for? The Gospel of Thomas, Marc Aurel in his Mediations and the Confucian Analects already hinted in ancient times, that there is much hypocrasy behind praying. Instead of doing the work to be done, people pray. In islam it is the worst since a good muslim has to pray five times a day. How can I get my work done if I have to pray five times a day? And it is more than ridiculous to believe that there is an almighty god who yet behaves like an egistic and autocratic tyrant who forces others to do stupid and ridiculous things.

Name: agnostic
Date: Friday April 25, 2008
Time: 21:57:35 -0700

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To The Countdown: what an astute observation. Europe, UK, US will be be swept into a position where its Aristocracy and Elite will create the groundswell to choose between fighting or surrendering to muslims. Co-ordinated 7/7 9/11 future attacks will force the common people to scream for justice. GENOCIDE of muslims will be that justice. The blueprint is ready, the finger is on the button. Just waiting for the SIGNAL when muslims in these countries will be herded into concentration camps for mass executions. Believe it. --------As for oil, already Saudi Arabia is screaming to India for basmati rice.Hindu India, mind you, not that islamic paradise, allah is so great and the best of men Pakistan. Oil can't be consumed. Famine in tsunami form will sweep the whole of the Mid-East for easy picking of the oil wells. And North Africans will be armed to finish off whatever muslims that escape the carnage. No muslims, no islam.

Name: truebrit
Date: Saturday May 10, 2008
Time: 02:13:54 -0700

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these muhammedans r filth they dnt believe in any god its just an excuse to cause trouble that big nigger calling himself abu izzadeen was really a plumber called trevor and if that cunt is married 2 a white woman he is a hypocrital ape

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