Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Shameful Persecution of Pious Mosque Leaders in UK

Note: This article is a satire

These days kuffars are falsely accusing pious muslim leaders of sexual crimes. One such respectable mosque leader in Scotland was falsely accused several times by young nymphomaniacs. Thanks to a very fair British judicial system, liberal leftist multiculturust judges, and Allah’s blessing due to his lifetime of prayers and fasts, he is still a free man.

Case 1

Haji Farooq Hussain, a 56 year old happily married man and a bearded pot bellied mosque leader was minding his own business one day when a 14 year old very attractive shapely young lady approached him .

She was apparently turned on by his long graceful Arabic tunic (tope) , wild grey beard and rugged middle eastern features.

When he ignored her she tried to seduce him by exposing herself . When that did not work she grabbed his face and forced herself on him. Poor Hussain could hardly breath and almost got choked to death by this well endowed nymph. He gasped for breath and kept reciting ”Astaghfirullah”. He finally pushed her away and escaped.. The unfulfilled and frustrated young woman felt humiliated by the rejection and reported him to police accusing the pious imam of sexual attack. Later the poor man was picked up when saliva found on her breasts matched with his, through DNA testing. He truthfully explained to the police how his saliva got there , to clear his good name. Here is the news item in British press.


I spat on teen girl after she flashed her breasts at me, claims sex attack row man

By Gordon Currie
Glasgow Daily Record
9 July 2008

A MUSLIM mosque leader yesterday claimed he spat on a 14-year-old girl after she flashed her breasts at him.

Farooq Hussain told a court that was how his DNA was found on her.

Perth Sheriff Court heard Hussain - who is a mosque leader and prominent Muslim in Scotland - claim the girl had shoved her breasts in his face and he had been "disgusted, embarrassed and degraded".

He said: "She stood up and quickly lifted her top and pulled her breasts out and put them in my face and mouth”.

"I spat on her. She started wiping the spit on her breasts."

The court had already heard the girl describe how she was attacked by Hussain.

Married Hussain 56, of Perth, also denies a sex attack on a 15-year-old girl in 2002 and two other charges relating to a 14-year-old girl last year.

Another charge concerning a third girl in 2002 was dropped

 

Case 2

Poor Farooq Hussain became the victim of the lust of another 15 year old attractive young lady who also reported him to police after he rejected her advances.


Sex attack by mosque leader

By Gordon Curie
Glasgow Daily Record
Jul 8 2008

Girl said: "He started touching my thighs and I told him to get off me, which he didn't. I tried to get away and he pushed me against a filing cabinet.

"He put his hand down my trousers. He went up my top with his hands as well."

Married Farooq Hussain, 56, head of a mosque in Perth and a prominent member of Scotland's Muslim community, denies sex attacks on three young girls.


Case 3

A 14 year old girl reported Imam Farooq Hussain to police after successfully sexually assaulting him.

Mosque leader sexually assaults a 14 year old

By Gordon Currie
Jul 5 2008

A 14-YEAR-OLD girl wept yesterday as she told a jury how she was sexually assaulted by a mosque leader.

The girl said that Farooq Hussain forced himself upon her while she was helping him decorate one of his flats.

She said: "He came behind me and put his hands on my waist. He touched me and started doing other stuff."

The girl - one of three that Hussain is said to have attacked - claimed her chest was left bruised as a result of the attack.

When I cried Farooq kept asking what was wrong and I said, 'You know what you have done. You are not supposed to do that. I'm phoning the police'.

Hussain, 56, head of a mosque in Perth and a prominent member of the Muslim community, denies sexual assault.

She said Farooq Hussain 56, of Pitcullen Crescent, Perth, a married man, offered to give her money.

The girl said her mother's face "went white" when she told her what Farooq had done. She wanted to take a bath but was advised not to until police had spoken to her.

Hussain is alleged to have carried out a series of sexual assaults against 14 and 15-year-old girls around Perth over a five-year period.

 

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Name: ha ha ha ....
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 21:45:00 -0700

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In Indonesia, many islamic teachers raped their young student girls, sometimes underage children. Many rape cases in Indonesian rural areas, including sodomy, are performed by moslem teachers in 'Surau' and 'Mosque'. Islam teaches very low moral values, so moslem men are free to have sex with underage children. To marry and to divorce are used to disguise free sex between them.


Name: shoot these terrorists
Date: Wednesday July 09, 2008
Time: 22:48:01 -0700

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shoot these terrorists.


Name: jihad for sex.....i wanna fuk hot babes real hard...hahahahaaa
Date: Thursday July 10, 2008
Time: 00:51:35 -0700

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jihad for sex....i wanna fuk all the hot babes.... but first let me convert to arab imperialism = islam so i will escape from police and law...and also get 72 biiigg breasted babes in jannat for wine [ haram ] and fun.on earth i cant touch wine,but in jannat i will bathe my babes with sweet wine and lick their bodies...and breasts...and suck real hard till they scream with excitement.....mmmmmmmmmm....and allah actually allows me to do it,islam is realy great it allows for all material pleasure in jannat which i cant enjoy on eart.i think i need to join jihad and blow up a few kafirs and die in suicide attack bcoz my houries r calling me....but only 1 problem...allah did not create man from mud/dirt,but man evoled by nature from 1 celled organisms and nature is true god,so all the jannat etc just evaporated and nothing in after life....bohohohohooooo....where r my houries wine and sex ??? imaginary allah is imaginary and does not exist. so i hv to be satisfyed with same old wife.


Name: Islamists alias Mohammadians are absesed with sex
Date: Thursday July 10, 2008
Time: 01:20:37 -0700

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Islamists alias Mohammadians (some pious muslims) are obsessed with sex. It is unfortunate that they don't know not even able to understand that sex is not for pleasure. It is only biolgical need to be addressed legally.


Name: vbv
Date: Thursday July 10, 2008
Time: 03:16:36 -0700

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Muslims say there are no rapes in islamic countries. In the West and in non-muslim countries rape is recognised as a crime , while in islamic countries it is a matter of a muslims right to rape, sodomise ,fornicate and indulge in sex with child- a path shown by their fake 'prophet' Muhamad , the world's widest madcap, psychopath, sexmaniac and gangster all rolled in one! Mullahs can do anything with the babes and pass on the buck to the babes exposing them to the barbaric Sharia - poor things where will they produce witnesses four times as much as the witnesses in favour of the criminals - it is totally loaded against women as a sex! So that's why sex crimes largely go unreported in "islamic countries". They even have punishment like a sentence of mass rape on a woman by a local sharia court in Pakistan! So what can you expect from islam the cult of the madcap criminal ,psychopath and sexmaniac Muhamad!


Name: balam
Date: Thursday July 10, 2008
Time: 08:45:31 -0700

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Muslims are basically most self righteous like their pervert paedophile prophet.Their Spokesman Zakir Naik,The most hyporite character,who always points his finger at the christian West but refuses to acknowledge how evil the Muslims are,who follow the footsteps of their prophet Mohammad who enjoyed the Virgin sex of Ayesha so much that he promised 72 virging to his followers in Islamic Brothel.Allah is managing the heavenly Islamic brothel himself because he knows that the Muslims cant manage even a brothel efficiently.I hope the Muslim women also get 72 studs each with permanent erection to satisfy them as well.Maulana Farroq is a true representation of Islamic sexual beasts in the West.Alla Phoo Akbar.


Name: HERES THE FACTS
Date: Thursday July 10, 2008
Time: 14:41:11 -0700

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1. Farooq is not a religious leader. He is merely a committe member involved with raising funds. 2. He doesnt own a beard 3. The charge against 3rd girl was dropped as they wouldnt come to court as they were lying. 4. These girls were no innocent teenagers. The main one had her stomach pumped at hospital a few days before for underage drinking and claims she doesnt keep male company anymore - well she was out in town less than a week later on her own with 4 guys. 5. The other one recently had 5 guys one after another at a party and although Farooq had 2 witnesses to say he was never alone with her and that she robbed a vending machine and bottle of booze from his restaurant the jury still found him guilty (as a majority - not unanimously) although this was after a whole day of deliberating which would indicate that there was some serious doubt 6. These chavs were out for money and their parents are a mix of drug addicts, alcoholics and dont give a shit about their kid types in reality 7. The papers never print the truth as they wouldnt make any money 8. The papers contribute to the Islamaphobia which you guys on this website also propogate.


Name: Sean
Date: Thursday July 10, 2008
Time: 15:32:33 -0700

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Islamophobia is lie created by Islam and the PC Gestapo to insinuate that when someone has the common sense to critisis Islam they are actually a racist. This is both assanine and a complete rape of common sense. The comments from "HERES THE FACTS" (see above) are precisley what I have come to expect from a devote Muslim, high in slander and low in substance. In backword Islamic countries a woman is a whore and a prostitute if she is in the company of non related men, in the rest of the world she is among friends who happen to be male. Pull your head out of your Islamic crotch Mr. "HERES THE FACTS".


Name: Ananda
Date: Thursday July 10, 2008
Time: 21:08:27 -0700

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'Lyrical Terrorist's Conviction Quashed' www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jun/17/uksecurity.ukcrime

Samina Malik, 24, from Southall, west London, was convicted under section 58 of the Terrorism Act in November last year after she wrote poems celebrating the beheading of non-Muslims. Today, she won an appeal against her conviction for collecting personal information likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism. One of her poems, called How to Behead, said: "It's not messy or as hard as some may think, It's all about the flow of the wrist… You'll feel the knife hit the wind and food pipe, But Don't Stop, Continue with all your might." She also wrote on the back of a till receipt: "The desire within me increases every day to go for martyrdom." Malik, who worked at Heathrow's airside branch of WH Smith, said she chose to call herself the lyrical terrorist because she thought it was cool, and denied she was an actual terrorist. ((Question to Ayesha))Why are UK Muslim females lining-up for Islamic Jihad Terrorism?


Name: This articles for comments only
Date: Friday July 11, 2008
Time: 05:49:55 -0700

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This articleis for comments only. Not for copy and pasting of long and irrelevant messages to this article.


Name: aisha
Date: Friday July 11, 2008
Time: 06:48:44 -0700

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when i was working in the middle east my 'boss' made these same moves on me, for years - (and he was supposed to be pious), so i don't doubt these allegations are founded. i only wonder if perhaps muslim men go to some kind of special schooling to find out the moves, lines, and how to justify themselves at prayer times. Or, is it inbuilt? thanks for a powerful artical.


Name: Challenge by Akheter, taken by Walter Sieruk
Date: Friday July 11, 2008
Time: 08:28:18 -0700

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On July 10 a post reads " Produce a sura like Quran[Quran 2.03]. [You cannot because]..." First, All someone has to do is examine some of the great works of literature to find much written beauty. Such as the Greek epic poet Homer with his ILIAD and ODYSSEY and also the Latin poets as Horance and then Virgil who produced the AENEID. Even one of the Non-Bible books in the APOCRYPHA called SONG OF THREE CHILDREN is also very beautiful. Thus, just because someone sees a work written in great beauty doen't mean it's inspired by God. Second,the scholer Edward Gibbon wrote after an examination of the Quran that it is an " incoherent jumble of fable and precept and declamation which seldom excites a sentiment or an idea, which sometimes crawls in the dust and is sometimes lost in the clouds..." And the writter Thomas Carlye wrote the the Quran is " A wearisome jumble, crude, incondite [with] endless iterations [and] longwindedness..." Likewise,the philosoher David Hume was NOT favorably impressed after reading the Quran. - [Source of the three scholers mentioned is SECRETS OF THE KORAN:REVEALING INSIGHTS INTO ISLAM's HOLY BOOK p.65,66, by Don Richardson]


Name: To: HERE ARE THE FACTS
Date: Friday July 11, 2008
Time: 08:55:06 -0700

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You are trying to defend a scumbag muslim rapist. Why wouldnt you, your prophet was a rapist.What the girls do with their free will is their business. Does that give the old fogey muslim who is the age of their granfather a right to rape them? Besides he is a mosque committee member that does make him mosque leader so where is the lie?. Muslims are the biggest liars not the newspapers.


Name: lamplighter
Date: Friday July 11, 2008
Time: 10:53:13 -0700

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For those who want suras better and wiser than anything in the Koran how about these for starters- -The pen is mightier than the sword. -He who live by the sword will die by the sword -Love thy God with all thy might,all thy soul and all thy heart AND LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF. -Turn the other cheek (which means self restraint,peaceful resisrance) as pracriced by Ghandi, Martin Luther king,Nelson Mandella -Jesus himself-see the fruits these produced-contrast with the violence practiced by Islamists in the mideast where after 1300 years Muslims have achieved nothing and have nothing to offer their people but bloodshed. -shake the dust off your feet(if your your message is rejected)-as opposed to going back to a town to kill,rape murder torture plunder men women and children-as you know who did numerous times -The Beatitudes and the the Sermon on the Mount- which Ghandi himself said went straight to his heart when he read it as a student in London and no doubt influenced his life(as reported in his biography by Fisher) -What's in a name -A rose by any othername smells just as sweet I am sure readers can come up with a lot more without even going to Confucious. I have read the Koran -I dont believe it was revealed by the same God of Ibraham ,Isaac, Moses ,Jesus. If it was then the Angel Gabriel must have been shoking Hash-Hish or taken some other heavenly brew from Mohammed's orgiastic paradise.


Name: Re: HERES THE FACTS
Date: Friday July 11, 2008
Time: 12:08:21 -0700

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Your pious muslim leader was found guilty of all charges today. Even the super liberal british syestem could not protect him any longer. They jailed him finally after letting him walk free for years while he kept fondling young girls.. http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/Muslim-leader-found-guilty-of.4278671.jp


Name: Hafiz of Sugar land Texas mosque fondled little girls.
Date: Friday July 11, 2008
Time: 13:39:19 -0700

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A pious imam and Hafiz of our mosque in Sugar Land Texas had been touching private parts of girls as young as 6 yeas old who were sent to him for quranic lessons. He always denied the charges and said girls were lieing. When he made his move on a teenage girl, he was asked to resign by the president of ISGH (instead of reporting him to police to avoid bad press of Islam).


Name: tanstaafl
Date: Saturday July 12, 2008
Time: 11:45:14 -0700

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Apparently Haji Farooq Hussain cannot wait for the promised 72 virgins in Paradise......


Name: To tanstafl
Date: Saturday July 12, 2008
Time: 14:33:30 -0700

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Either that or he wanted to score extra credits by carrying out the sunna of sex with numerous infidel women..


Name: curious
Date: Saturday July 12, 2008
Time: 15:10:26 -0700

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to the person who wrote "All infidels together cannot produce even one sura like Quran" 'Because they are the lowest beasts(8.55)' Show me one sura from the koran that you think no one else cant produce.


Name: Reply to Walter Seiruk
Date: Monday July 14, 2008
Time: 14:40:07 -0700

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If quran is not a divine book than how do you explain the fact that islam is the fastest growing religion in USA, a country of highly educated people? Do you know even President Jefferson appreciated the beauty of Quran and had a copy at his bedside? See a highly educated convert to islam in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5mqNIkklao


Name: MATE- MUHAMED IS NOT GODS MESSENGER
Date: Tuesday July 15, 2008
Time: 09:16:28 -0700

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Muhameds god allah is the moon god of the kaaba who was being worshipped even before muhamed. Your god allah misguides according to you. Our God does not misguide. He always try to bring people to salvation. He always guides correctly unlike your pagan god allah.


Name: MUSLIM COUNTRIES ARE THE MOST BACKWARD IN THE WORLD
Date: Tuesday July 15, 2008
Time: 09:27:46 -0700

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Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US because of migration of muslims to the US and due to high birth rate and not because of conversion. Why are so many muslims leaving muslim countries to go to a land which according to you is so corrupt and unislamic? Dont muslims feel comfortable and safe in islamic countries where sharia is practised? Can you answer that? After Islam destroyed the great civilisations of the world like persia, messopotamia, etc and reduced them to backward nations they are trying to do the same to the US and europe. Keep your filth to yourself. Why has not islam made any country advanced? All islamic countries are scientifically and technologically backward. No manufacturing industries to speak of . Can you give an answer?


Name:
Date: Tuesday July 15, 2008
Time: 19:42:48 -0700

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ALLAH has taught us in the Qur'an that all other `religions' and ways of life are unacceptable to Him if a person is aware of Islam. The Qur'an states (translation), [3:85] And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers. However, even though the ALLAH The Creator of the Worlds has clearly specified that no other way of life is acceptable to Him except Islam (i.e. submission to Him as embodied in the Qur'an and Sun’nah), He has also commanded the Muslims to be tolerant of people who espouse other creeds. From the Sunnah, specifically in the study of the Sunnah called Al-Awsat by Al-Tabarani, we find regarding those non-Muslims living in the Islamic state, The Messenger of Allah (saas) said, "One who kills a non-Muslim person under protection will not even smell the fragrance of Paradise." Also from the Sunnah, specifically in a report from Al-Khatib, we find that the Messenger of Allah (saas) also said: Whoever hurts a non-Muslim person under protection, I am his adversary, and I shall be an adversary to him on the Day of Resurrection. In short, Islam is intolerant of false ideas, however it is tolerant of the people who hold to those ideas. One historical example of Muslims living up to the standard of Islam can be found from the time of the Spanish Inquisition. During that disaster sprung by misguided Catholics, some Spanish Jews fled to Muslim Turkey and to this day, there is a community of Spanish-speaking Jews in Turkey. Another example may be found during one of the Crusader invasions from Western Europe. Some of the the Catholic Western European knights were so likely to rape, murder, and pillage the Jews and Orthodox Christians, that when the Muslims won, they were treated as a liberating force by those non-Muslims. [2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have surrendered.


Name:
Date: Wednesday July 16, 2008
Time: 01:32:30 -0700

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I dont think the cases are untrue. You would be surprised how many respectable married men do stuff like that. Ask your daughters!!! We know!!!


Name: Ayesha Ahmed
Date: Wednesday July 16, 2008
Time: 04:01:26 -0700

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Ayesha Ahmed how can u be so damm sure that these allegations are not true? seem that he has been found guilty at last.. two girls not one has accused him... so many filthy apne.. this man has a lovely wife at home..


Name: true muslim who believe in Eesa A.S. aka Jesus
Date: Friday July 18, 2008
Time: 11:57:54 -0700

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maybe he is guilty or maybe he is not. one cannot bash Islam by the act of one individual. Dont forget that priests and other religious figures are also indicted withe these crimes, does that make Christianity a religion of abusing girls and even boys. I have read Quran and it is the same for more than 1400 years. I challenge anyone to come up with any fact of Quran that will make another fact of this book looks contradictory. It is the reason that Islam is the religion most people convert to than any other religion. First read the Quran know its true meaning and then open your ignorant mouth. People like all these bashers are the cause we are in religious turmoil nowadays.


Name: Contradictions in the quran
Date: Sunday July 20, 2008
Time: 14:08:07 -0700

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The origins of life according to the Qur'an There are at least 60 verses which deal explicitly with human reproduction and development, but these are scattered throughout the Qur'an and many of the themes are repeated over and over again, as is common to much of the book. A useful place to begin would be the material out of which we are created. One would expect the Qur'an to be unambiguous about such an elementary matter, but the verses listed show just how much uncertainty there appears to be in our origins. Note that except where indicated the translation used is the translation of Yusuf Ali (Saudi Revised Edition). Could it be from earth? 11:61 It is He Who hath produced you from the earth Or dry clay (Arabic Salsaal)? 15:26,28,33 We created man from sounding clay 17:61 ... Thou didst create from clay 32:7 He began the creation of man from clay Did we come from nothing? 19:67 We created him before out of nothing No, we did not! 52:35 Were they created of nothing? Did we come from mud? 23:12 We created man from a product of wet earth (loam) (Pickthall) 23:12 Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay) 38:71 I am about to create a mortal out of mire Or water? 25:54 It is He Who has created man from water (see also 21:30, 24:45) Could it be dust? 3:59 He created (Jesus) out of dust 30:20 He created you from dust 35:11 Allah did create you from dust .... Perhaps we arose from the dead or from one person? 30:19 It is He who brings out the living from the dead 39:6 He created you from a single Person (see also 4:1) The metaphorical description of God making man out of the dust of the earth is ancient and predates the Qur'an by thousands of years; it is found in the Bible in Genesis 2:7. If this was literal it would be in direct scientific conflict with evolutionists who maintain that life was created out of the oceans, but Muslims maintain that we were created both from the oceans and from earth.


Name: A concerned Human being.
Date: Sunday August 10, 2008
Time: 06:54:17 -0700

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I just want to say what a BIG SHAME!!! I notice people have said bad about the religion Islam, the prophet muhammad (pbuh) and the associated matters with it - HAS EVERYONE GONE MAD?? People like farooq hussain want ISLAM distoreted, that is their mission, so you guys who are bad mouthing the actual religion are actually doing Farooq's wrk for him, hahahahahahahaha - you've been fooled!!! - why would someone want to run the affairs of a mosque, act as a muslim leader and sexually play with females who are not his wive(s) - And by the way i heard from the "horses mouth" (another member of the committee of the perth mosque) that they are all sick of Farooq trying to represent the muslim community when clearly he's not asked to. THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK. Don't do the devil's work for him!!!


Name: SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Date: Sunday August 10, 2008
Time: 07:00:54 -0700

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I was speaking to Farooq a couple of days ago - God has he changed!!! He was saying that the people who are looking after the mosque affairs now are worse than him? what is this supposed to mean? does this mean that he now admits he's a paedophile and that the new committee are also - surely these muslims must have a central governing body to vet who runs their mosques??????


Name: WHY ARE NON MUSLIMS ALLOWED TO MANAGE MOSQUES IN BRITAIN?
Date: Sunday August 10, 2008
Time: 07:11:12 -0700

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Did you know the following about Farooq Hussain? He does not pray 5 times a day - something that a muslim MUST do His businesses have alcohol sales involved - buying, selling or producing alcohol is strictly forbidden in Islam and most muslims in perth do this He has performed Hajj paying for it by his wealth made from alcohol. He lusts for young girls - oh i think we've all figured out this one. I wonder if he has paid the legal costs and compensation from the same wealth?? mmmmm SO HOW CAN ONE DEFINE THIS MAN AS A MUSLIM - HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LONG KICKED OUT OF NOT ONLY THE MOSQUE BUT THE RELIGION TOOO.


Name: A MATCHING PERSONALISED NUMBER PLATE
Date: Sunday August 10, 2008
Time: 07:21:35 -0700

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Did you know Farooq's personal umber plate reads "KAFAR" - Why would this be - is he the real infidel bought out by the enemies of Islam??? NUMBER PLATE: "K11 FAR" - Any suggestions?


Name: Brought shame to the muslim community in gerneral by his act
Date: Tuesday August 12, 2008
Time: 01:33:01 -0700

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I am so disgusted about the way people who call themself muslim with money and pretend to be high profile in the society do such a shameful act towards girls and fondle with them. I hope he wll be punished for his evil act calling himself respectable and dominant reigoius person in Perth Muslim Commuity. His life will be hell when he visits HMR Prison soon. You get punished in this world for your wrong doing never mind what you get after death.


Name: NEIL GOLAN
Date: Tuesday August 12, 2008
Time: 10:03:45 -0700

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THE ONLY SHAMEFULNESS IS THAT THE UK AND THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES NOT KICK ALL OF THE MUSLIMS OUT AND BACK TO LIVE UNDER THE RULE THEY SO ADMIRE!THIS WOULD CAUSE AN ISLAMIC REVOLUTION AGAINST ISLAM IF THEY ALL HAD TO LIVE TOGETHER BY THE RULES THE SO DESIRE! IN ONE YEAR THEY WOULD ALL CUT EACH OTHERS HEADS OFF.BUT ONLY AFTER THEY ALL RAPED THEIR DAUGHTERS,SISTERS,MOTHERS AND WIVES! GO BACK TO ISLAM AND STAY WHERE YOU CAME FROM IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT HERE IN THE DEMOCRACY! GOD GAVE YOU FREEDOM OF CHOICE TO LIVE IN YOUR ISLAMIC COUNTRY IN SQUALOR AND PAIN!


Name: Non Religious Guy in Perth
Date: Friday August 15, 2008
Time: 05:29:33 -0700

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Can someone please enlighten me? A man has been lawfully convicted of sexual offences against underage girls, and yes the term paedophilia certainly does apply to this issue. The man gave the outward appearance of being pious in his religion, which in this case happens to be Islam. There have been other documented cases involving so called pious Catholics, Protestants and member of the Jewish faith. I have no vested interest, I am totally non religious, and have both Christian and Muslim friends. It is totally unfair to equate the crimes of one man against his professed religion. I cannot see what religion has to do with these crimes. They were not committed in Mosque property or had any connection within the Mosque in Perth, or any other Mosque for that matter, nor was there any other member of the Muslim faith involved. In short this was one man who committed these crimes and he will answer for these crimes. Leave religion out of the equation.


Name: Reply to a Concerned Human being
Date: Friday August 15, 2008
Time: 10:58:20 -0700

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You said people are bad mouthing the "actual religeon"- well what is good about the actual religeon? Mo forbade alcohol etc ordered prayer five times a day in an exact and certain manner,fast in an exact manner and time- -most muslims in the "free' world choose not to follow making one excuse after another why they cant --and in the Islamic countries muslims are beaten or otherwise forced to follow-there is no compulsion in religeon-but pray five times a day and fast etc just as I say or else-remember Mo. ordered a mosque in Mecca burnt down with the praying Muslims in it because they were not Muslim enough-My friend dont defend the actual religeon -I understand your desire to seperate the followers from the religeon-I used to do that too until I opened up the Koran and read it in my native language (not just kissing it and parrotting the arabic) and I was shocked-I found nothing of a socially redeeming value-you should read it too in a language you understand.Compare this idea mate which I got from you know who " A man must be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven'(Prophet Jesus)with Mo's standing order to hill non- believers whereever you find them to enter paradise where their are virgins waiting for those who kill or die for Islam.From my studies I conclude that with most other religeons it is the people who are at fault With Islam It is the religeon at fault-(muslims generally try hard to follow islam)but a bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit(propher Jesus again)And in the hereafter there is no marriage and giving of marriage (Jesus)-compare that to the very physical and sensual paradise Mo promised for would be killers in the name of Islam.Jesus' teaching makes more sense to me because why would the after life lok like just a bigger Harem? So you see where the bad teachings are! Incidentally -regarding prayer and fasting and charity-Jesus allowed men to use their free will by saying(not ordering) '''when you pray, ..when you fast, ..when you give alms...etc. Isn't voluntary pray,fasting and charity better than forced? Do you really believe it is Gods wish for us to put our hands to our ear and tell him over and over again five times a day how great he is and forcing us to do so too? what good is that king of prayer?Is he that deaf- dumd or cant read our hearts we have to do it over and over again? So my friend do you see where the bad ideas are?


Name: Reply to non religeous guy in perth
Date: Friday August 15, 2008
Time: 11:33:12 -0700

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You wrote mate-"A man has been lawfully convicted of sexual offences...I cannot see what religion has to do with these crimes." Answer-Normally nothing mate- but when the leader/founder of that religeon is himself guilty of those same acts people begin to wonder--and when muslims cannot say the name of that "prophet" without an akward and forced 'pbuh' (should be hbuh instead) people begin to wonder,when the prophets and founders of all other great religeons were themselves saintly and did not engage in that type of behaviou unlike this prophet-you begin to ask questions and if this individual was as bold as his prophet he would say it is the will of his allah since his prophet did it too in the name of allah and made it "halal" for his followers.


Name: Non religious Guy in Perth
Date: Friday August 15, 2008
Time: 20:21:11 -0700

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I have read the comments since my last post. I will neither agree, nor disagree with them. The pros and cons of any particular religion can surely be debated in a forum specifically designed for that purpose. Religion is an emotional subject for those devoted to it. But surely a man convicted for sexual crimes, whatever religion he purports to support, is not a forum for religious debate, point scoring, or propaganda of any type. Using this particular forum is self defeating and dangerous. This was one man, one crime. FULL STOP. Separate the man from the religion. I grew up in an era where men in mainland Britain were kicked senseless, or worse. Their crime was that they spoken with an Irish accent – nothing more. But public hysteria was whipped by National Press etc into thinking that anyone with an Irish accent was a terrorist bomber. And what have we learned? Nothing it appears. Homophobia and the aids epidemic, where public hysteria was whipped up by the National press and other News Media leading people to believe that speaking to a gay man would give you aids. The results were innocent men being kicked senseless or worse. Now because of the tragic situation and the aftermath of the 9/11 crime, here we go again, only with a different target. A German historian once said, “Hitler first went after the Communists, but I wasn’t a Communist so I didn’t object. Then he went after the Trade Unionists, but I wasn’t a Trade Unionist, so I didn’t object. Then he went after the Jews, but I wasn’t a Jew, so I didn’t object. Then he came after me, and I looked around and there was no one left to object”. All I am asking people to do is stop and think for five minutes before they enter into this “debate”. Think about what I have said, it is said with good intention and not meaning to insult in any way whatsoever.


Name: Reply to Non religeous guy in Perth.
Date: Monday August 18, 2008
Time: 16:58:02 -0700

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You obviously are a fair minded person and decent person. I dont think anyone supports violence (except Koran and those who follow it) against any person for what thay believe or based on their appearance. this board is about Islam and when someone is so closely connected with that faith and when that faith supports sexual attacks and rapes in words and by example of their prophet how can you seperate the religon from the man?


 
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