Islamic Cultural Genocide
07 Jun, 2008
From Front Page Magazine on June 06, 2008:
In this special edition of Frontpage Symposium, we have gathered a
distinguished panel to discuss Islam's eradication of other
cultures, communities, identities and ideas. We will also explore
the origins within Islam that spawn this impulse for genocide. Our
guests today are:
Rev. Keith Roderick, a defender of religious prisoners of
conscience since 1982 as the Director of the Society of St. Stephen
and Co-Director of the International Taskforce on Soviet Jewery.
After responding to the appeals of Coptic Christians in 1987, he
began working for Christians and other minorities from predominantly
Muslim countries. He organized the Coalition for the Defense of
Human Rights in 1993, the largest umbrella organization representing
these minorities. Fr. Roderick also serves as the Washington
Representative of Christian Solidarity International and is the
Canon for Persecuted Christians for the Diocese of Quincy, the only
Canon defending persecuted Christians in the Episcopal Church.
Peter BetBasoo, co-founder and director of the Assyrian
International News Agency (www.aina.org). He was born in Baghdad in
1963 and emigrated to the U.S. in 1974. He obtained a B.S. in
Geology at the University of Illinois Chicago (1980-1985) and a
minor in Philosophy. In 2002, he worked in the State Department's
Future of Iraq Project, in the Water, Agriculture and Environment
group. In 2007, he authored the report, Incipient Genocide: The
Ethnic Cleansing of the Assyrians of Iraq.
Abul Kasem, an ex-Muslim who is the author of hundreds of articles and several books on Islam including, Women in Islam. He was a contributor to the book Leaving Islam – Apostates Speak Out as well as to Beyond Jihad: Critical Views From Inside Islam.
Thomas Haidon, a Muslim commentator on human rights, counter-terrorism and Islamic affairs. He is active in the Qur'anist movement and works with a number of Islamic reform organisations as an advisor. He has provided guidance to several governments on counter-terrorism issues and his works have been published in legal periodicals, and other media. Mr. Haidon has also provided advice to and worked for United Nations agencies in Sudan and Indonesia.
and
Dr. Moorthy Muthuswamy, an expert on terrorism in India.
He grew up in India, where he had firsthand experience with
political Islam and jihad. He moved to America in 1984 to pursue
graduate studies. In 1992, he received a doctorate in nuclear
physics from Stony Brook University, New York. Since 1999 he has
extensively published ideas on neutralizing political Islam's terror
war as it is imposed on unbelievers. He is the author of the new
book, The Art of War on Terror: Triumphing over Political Islam and
the Axis of Jihad.
FP: Rev. Keith Roderick, Peter BetBasoo, Abul Kasem,
Thomas Haidon and Dr. Mutthuswamy, welcome to Frontpage Symposium.
Peter BetBasoo, let’s begin with you.
Pave the foundation for us for a discussion on Islamic cultural
genocide.
BetBasoo: Thank you, Jamie. First I would like to send my greetings to the distinguished panelists, especially Rev. Roderick, with whom I have worked on many occasions since 1995.
There is a pernicious and deadly effect of Islam that manifests itself only when a long range study of Islam's interaction with non-Muslim cultures is undertaken; that effect is Islam's eradication of other cultures and communities, identities and ideas. When Islam comes to dominate other cultures, those other cultures are often destroyed.
One can state that other religions or empires have the same effect, that the culture of the ruling class tends to permeate the masses and is absorbed by them, leading to the assimilation of the conquered population into the ruling culture. This is true on a superficial level. One can point to India, for example, and note the British influence on that culture. But tellingly absent in that analogy is Christianity. The British were not there to Christianize the Indians, they were just building an empire, and their domination was more imperial than religious. Indeed, the religious element was not significant in the mundane, day-to-day British bureaucratic administration of India.
As for religious domination, one can state that Christianity has imposed its "culture" on all those who have been Christianized. Again this is true to an extent, but the fact that we have Christians who are Assyrians, Armenians, Copts, Bulgarians, Romanians, Russians, Spaniards, Italians, Englishmen, Koreans, Chinese, Nigerians, Ethiopeans, says otherwise. These cultures survived and thrived after accepting Christianity. Christianity does not inherently impose a political system/state.
So what's different about Islam? In a word: Shari'a. Islam does not distinguish between religion and state. In Islam, the religion is the state, and the state is the religion. In Christianity there is a distinction between church and state, it is articulated by the Lord Jesus himself (“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”). So when the British, as imperialists, went into India, they did not go with the intent of transforming that country into a Christian land. The Christian missionary enterprise is separate from the national imperial enterprise (though these sometime do go hand-in-hand).
In Islam the state/religion assumes total control over a conquered population, and because the Koran asserts that no law can supersede the Shari'a, the laws and customs of the conquered culture are set immediately at odds with Shari'a. One has to give, and since in these situations Islam is dominant, it prevails. How it practically prevails is by imposing on the non-Muslim cultures oppressive and restrictive conditions, designed to make the non-Muslims live in abject humiliation and --crucially -- for them to be aware of it. For example, soon after the Caliphs established themselves in Baghdad they levied the Jizya on Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians (the Dhimmis, recognized people of the book); they also established special dress codes for the Dhimmis, they ordered the Dhimmis not to wear the color green, never to ride horses, only to use wooden crosses (for the Christians); they forbade the repair or construction of churches and synagogues unless authorized by the Caliph in writing (today in Egypt this law applies, president Mubarak has to sign the order for any church repair or new construction). Non-Muslims who were not Dhimmis (i.e., "recognized") were given two options: convert or die. The effect of this is assimilation into Islamic culture to escape the harsh conditions. The language, customs and traditions of the assimilated culture are lost.
A telling example is the Chaldeans (not related to present-day
Chaldeans, who are Catholic Assyrians). For millennia they were
known as astronomers and astrologers in south Iraq; they were
forcibly Islamized and Arabized, so rapidly that by 750 A.D. -- only
120 years after the coming of Islam -- they disappeared completely.
Muthuswamy: Let me start by acknowledging BetBasoo for a
nice introduction.
The interaction of Islam with non-Muslims is an important, but a
scantly discussed subject. Let me thank Jamie and Frontpage Magazine
for choosing to address it through this symposium.
In his introduction, BetBasoo has distinguished Islam from other
major religions, by pointing out convincingly “When Islam comes to
dominate other cultures, those other cultures are often destroyed”.
There is also a related one: extermination of non-Muslims and their
expulsions when they couldn’t be subjugated. All of this points to
conquest of non-Muslims and their land in the name of Islam. The
revealing and distinguishing character of Islam is that this
conquest is enduring even in the modern era.
Since I am originally from India, I can add some interesting tit
bits to this symposium. During the Muslims rule in North India in
the medieval period, just about all prominent Hindu temples were
destroyed and mosques were erected in their place. To add insult to
the injury, Jizya was imposed by several Muslim kings on the hapless
Hindu masses. Ancient Hindu temples are now in South India ,
relatively untouched by the Muslim onslaught. Within the past sixty
years portions of North India have now become Islamic Pakistan and
Bangladesh , their non-Muslim populations decimated due to
expulsions to what is now called India and resident Muslim
populations increasingly Arabized.
If Mohammed had designed Islam to extend his power base and to
conquer people and land, he couldn’t have envisioned a more enduring
one. His cause has now become a religious one, taken over by the
extended tribes of Saudis, non-Saudi Arab Muslims and non-Arab
Muslims (in that order) subsequent to Mohammed’s death.
We ought to put entire Islamic scriptures and history, including
the life Islam’s founder Mohammed under microscope. Propelled by
data, the question of whether Islam is a religion or an ideology of
conquest masquerading as a religion is no longer avoidable, however
it might seem inconvenient.
Kasem: Islamic cultural genocide emanates straight from the
Koran. Here are a few sample verses and their exegeses by eminent
scholars of Islam.
In verse 5:50 Allah says that He will give His judgment about the days of ignorance. Ibn Kathir explains that this means whoever follows any laws other than the Koranic laws are unbelievers; they must be fought until they revert back to Islamic or Allah’s laws. Maulana Maududi (Tafaheem ul Quran, commentary 5/83), the founder of Jamate Islami, and the guru of the modern-day Islamists writes:
The word jahiliyah (literally 'ignorance') is used as an antonym to Islam. Islam is the way of 'ilm (true knowledge), since it is God Himself Who has shown this way, and His knowledge embraces everything. In contrast is the way that diverges from Islam - the path of Ignorance (jahiliyah). The pre-Islamic period in Arabia is designated as jahiliyah because this was the era when human beings derived their norms from either superstitious beliefs, conjectures and imagination or from their desires. Whenever such an attitude is adopted, it is bound to be designated as Ignorance. The appellation 'jahiliyah' will apply to every aspect of life which is developed in disregard of the knowledge made available by God, based only on man's partial knowledge blended with imagination, superstitious fancies, conjectures and desires.
Allah promises believers the sovereignty of the earth, and He
will establish the authority of Allah’s chosen religion (Islam);
disbelievers are miscreants…24:55
On the above verse (24:55) Ibn Kathir writes that Allah has made
Muslims the leaders and rulers of mankind through whom He would
reform the world and to whom people would submit, so that they would
have in exchange a safe security after their fear.
Ibn Kathir and Maulana Maududi remove any confusion whatsoever
about the mandatory nature of Islamic Cultural Genocide whenever
Islam conquers a jahilia people. The history of the conquered people
is the testimony to this command of Allah in verse 5:50, and 24:55.
The reason why Islam (or the Arabs) must perform a cultural
genocide and impose Islamic (read Arabic) culture is also enshrined
in the Koran.
In verse 3:104 we read that An Islamic (Arab) community is the
community of righteous people. According to eminent writer Benjamin
Walker this sura means Arabs are the best ever created (Walker,
Foundations of Islam, p.170).
In verse 3:110 Allah says that the Arabs are the best of
righteous people. According to ibn Kathir Muslims are the best
nation because they bring the unbelievers tied in chains on their
necks, that is, capture them in wars and later force them into
Islam. Supporting ibn Kathir, Maulana Maududi (Tafaheem ul Quran,
commentary number 3/88) writes that the Arabian Prophet (Muhammad,
an Arab) and his followers are informed that they are being assigned
the guidance and leadership of the world. The Muslims are charged
with this responsibility because of their competence and high moral
character. They have developed in theory and in practice the
qualities essential for truly righteous leadership, namely the
spirit and practical commitment to promoting good and suppressing
evil and the acknowledgement of the One True God as their Lord and
Master.
Here are a few verses where Allah considers the non-Muslims as
deaf, dumb, and cattle.
An unbeliever (like an idol) is akin to a dumb (stupid) person
and a burden to his master. (This verse institutionalizes Islamic
slavery)…16:76
Following blindly forefather’s religion is parroting; they (the unbelievers) are like a goat-herd; deaf, dumb and blind (also see 2:18, 2:171, 6:25, 7:179, 8:22, 8:23, 22:46, 41:44, 46:26, 43:36-37…2:171.
Therefore, it is essential that the non-Muslims, when conquered
by Islam, must undergo purification, culturally, to lift their
status from animal to human. This should explain why Islam
obliterates indigenous culture (read animal culture), replacing it
with Arab culture. Islam elevates animals (non-Muslims) to human
(only Muslims are humans) status through cultural genocide.
There are a number of ahadith where this supremacy of the Arabs
is extolled. Here is a sample hadis:
Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Number 5653
Wathila b. al-Asqa' reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Verily Allah granted eminence to Kinana from amongst the descendants of Isma'il and he granted eminence to the Quraish amongst Kinana and he granted eminence to the Quraish amongst Banu Hashim and he granted me eminence from the tribe of Banu Hashim.
What Mr Muthusamy wrote about the annihilation of indigenous
culture of India by the Arab/Islamist invaders is completely true.
Being a native of Bangladesh I can vouch how Islam has insidiously
made the conquered/converted people adapt to Arabic
culture/tradition. Here are a few examples:
Many Muslims of Bangladesh hate local culture, preferring Arabic culture.
All Bengali Muslims must adapt Arabic names.
They prefer to cook/eat Islamic/Arabic/Persian food.
Many Bangladeshis take great pride in donning Arabic dress.
They must learn Arabic to recite the Koran.
The marriage/divorce and /or family laws are strictly based on Islamic/ Arabic system.
No law should contradict the Koran and Hadiths.
They must greet in Arabic, instead in Bengali.
Islamic education is compulsory for all Muslims.
Several decades ago China conducted the Cultural Revolution to
propagate the proletariat culture. This was a cultural genocide of
the Chinese people. Islam is similar to that.
In nutshell, Islamic cultural genocide disconnects the indigenous people from its past. They must obliterate their history, tradition, culture, and norms. They must erase their past pride, glory and heroism; they are now Arabs, even though the Arabs treat them inferior. These are the conquered people whom Islam/Arabism has purified off their animal status.
Roderick: The respondents have provided an excellent exegetical
and historical summary of the negative impact that Islamization has
had on indigenous cultures. Malise Ruthven, author of Islam in the
World, has described Islam as “a religion programmed for victory.”
He further observed, “Unlike Christianity, which learned to
successfully survive without assimilation under non-Christian
dominance, Islam historically has reacted stridently at the actual
or perceived encroachment by non-Muslims into Islamic culture.” As
it has been rightly noted by Peter BetBasoo, the impact of Islam
upon on other cultures encompasses more than the supremacy of
religious ideas, also political power. The fusion of the political
and religious is inseparable. It may be argued that the religious
element of Islam has been used historically to impose an Arab
cultural imperialism to the demise of all others.
The two-world doctrine of dar al-Islam, the abode of peace where
Islam rules, and dar al-harb, the abode of war, every place else,
where the struggle must continue until Islam is triumphant,
ideologically and politically inevitably undermines any potential
for pluralism. The message of Islamic revivalists, who demand
Muslims return to orthodoxy, appeals to those who desire greater
Islamic hegemony rather than to the notion that Islam is one among
many. The basic philosophical positions unavoidably involve
conflict. Islam is not to be a blessing to the people of the world,
but to rule the world through complete submission. Islamists employ
the language of jihad rather than pluralism. The concept of cultural
unity and political harmony has more to do with submission to
Shar’ia than it does to promotion of mutual respect and
co-existence.
The perception of non-Muslims as interlopers is a forceful idea
that subtly enters into social/political realities. The term
“interloper” infers illegitimacy. An interloper has no claim to the
land, its laws, its culture, or even to its history. It is not long
before the idea that the people, who are not Muslim do not belong,
seep into actions that lead to the eradication of non-Muslims as
viable populations in countries where they have become a minority.
Lebanon is a perfect example of how Islamists successfully defended
their claim for hegemonic dominance by demonizing the Christians of
south Lebanon as outsiders that did not belong or have any
legitimate claims to the land. The Islamists were able to
aggressively dismantle the non-Muslim enclave and successfully
consolidate their occupation of south Lebanon, as well as winning
the argument of legitimacy on the world stage. This same process is
occurring in Nigeria, Egypt, Indonesia, and Iraq.
The liberation of Iraq unleashed a chaos that surpasses criminality; it comes very close to the ethnic cleansing of non-Muslim minorities. Nearly 40% of the Iraqi Christians have left their homes as refugees in other countries. The Christian population at the beginning of the war numbered one million, today there are less than 600,000 Christians, and 25% of these are internally displaced within Iraq. On January 5, the Al Jihad and Unification Movement in Al Rafidain Land in Islamic State of Iraq, sent a letter to the Christian residents of Mosul warning them to leave or be massacred in three days. The next day, on the Feast of Epiphany, seven churches were bombed in coordinated attacks; three days later, another two churches were bombed. The last remaining Mandaean (followers of John the Baptist) family in the Alaza area of Kut was massacred on February 27, after repeated threats by Muslims to leave. A rocket fired into the family’s home killed 10 members of the family; the youngest child was only 18 months old. The Mandaeans have been so decimated in Iraq that the few remaining want only to escape in order to survive as a culture in the West. The Iraqi Jews, eight at last count, are making plans to leave.
Unfortunately, non-Muslim minorities, who are the real forces of
moderation throughout the Muslim world, are diminishing. This
reality speaks louder than the empty platitude of Islam as a
religion of peace. The loss of vibrant non-Muslim cultures leaves a
void that increasingly is being filled by extremists whose demand
for orthodoxy will inevitably make life for the remaining Muslims
intolerable.
Haidon: I would also like to extend my warm greetings the
distinguished panellists here, particularly to Reverend Roderick and
Mr. BetBasoo (whose work I am most familiar with) who are firsthand
witnesses to the phenomenon we discuss here. I have little to add to
the initial observations thus far. The examples of "cultural
genocide" provided by the panellists are stark and harrowing. The
travails of Christians in Iraq, and all over the Muslim world are
real, and at an epidemic level. "Cultural genocide" however, need to
not occur exclusively through violence. In many cases it takes place
over time, and is much more subtle and surreptitious.
Mr. Kasem's analysis, while slightly simplistic, is not
inaccurate. At the foundation of this notion of "Islamic cultural
genocide" is traditional Islam. While I do not consider that the
Qur'an specifically mandates "cultural genocide", the verses that
affirm Muslim/Arab superiority and supremacy serve as an enabler to
this notion of "cultural genocide". It provides the impetus.
Building on the foundations of the Qur'an, the purported Muslim
tradition as well as the hadith and sirah of Muhammad, serve as the
real driver for this phenomenon. The hadith an d sira are replete of
examples of Muhammad and his followers to vanquish and dispose of
jahiliya. If necessary, I am more than glad to provide enumerable
examples.
Unfortunately, the international human rights fraternity has been
largely non-responsive aside from the work of a number of
non-governmental organisations, who do not have the benefit of
funding from the likes of George Soros. The political and
operational bodies of the United Nations have similarly failed to
take the lead in taking the lead in reporting and responding.
Disturbingly, while international law has slowly began to recognise
the collective rights of indigenous peoples (in addition to the
individual rights of persons), we are beginning to see Arab and
Muslim states in the United Nations system begin to assert
collective rights, as a means to suppress non-Muslim minorities and
to integrate sharia'ah and cultura l relativism into the human
rights system. This will have the effect of marginalising the
important work in international human rights law and will mean that
non-Muslim minorities in Muslim countries will continue to languish.
BetBasoo: There are two points I would like to elaborate on. First, the point that Rev. Roderick makes about the inseparability of Islam the religion, Islam the State and Islam the Arab religion. Islam the state offers the complete and super package -- nothing can supersede it. Shari'a is the dominant law wherever Muslims rule. This forces non-Muslims into practices that may not be their own or may contradict their laws and customs, be they religious or civil. More significantly, it gives license to Muslims to eradicate non-Muslims and their cultures because they are not, as Kasem perceptively points out, thought to be the laws and customs of Allah -- they are jahiliyah, they are sacreligious. The second point that must be understood is that Islam, unlike Christianity, is a tribal, ethnic religion centered around Arabs, and controlled by Arabs, and it is used to project Arab culture on non-Arabs.
The second point I wish to elaborate on is Haidon's observation about enabling. It is difficult to see how suicide bombers can arise from Christian doctrine. There is nothing in the New Testament that even remotely hints at this idea. Indeed, Christian doctrine can be summed in two words: love and charity. The question is, why do Muslims engage in suicide bombings? Where does the idea come from? It is not explicitly stated in the Koran, to be sure, but the seeds of the idea are right there, in the more than 100 Koranic verses extolling Muslims to kill in the name of Allah. Suicide bombings are the device, and must not be confused with the message. I think the message was clearly articulated by Kasem, that non-Muslims and their cultures must be eradicated. How this is done is not germane to the argument -- it can be done by a suicide bomber or by the Jizya -- the effect is to destroy non-Muslims and their cultures.
A few years ago I was working on a project with three Indians
from South India, one a Muslim and the other two Hindus. We entered
into a religious discussion. I proposed the following scenario to
the Muslim Indian. Imagine a country which is 95% Muslim and 5%
Christian (Iraq comes to mind). Since we know that Islam bans the
consumption of alcohol, I asked the Muslim what he would do were he
in power, would he allow Christians to take wine every Sunday for
communion? He answered without hesitation that he would not allow it
because it is against Islam. I countered that they are Christians
and this is demanded by their religion, and they are not subject to
Islamic law. He said it did not matter, they would not be allowed
and -- to add insult to injury -- if they did not like it they
should leave the country. This person was not a great thinker, nor
an Islamic scholar, nor a strategists, he was a Muslim Joe Schmoe.
So the question is, where did he learn to be so intolerant? Surely not from America (he had been here for four years). He was speaking from an Islamic point of view, and even at his common level of laity, these ideas were prevalent. The other two Indians, Hindus, angrily scolded him and most other Indian Muslims for rooting for Pakistan whenever India and Pakistan competed in soccer games -- showing that loyalty is not to the civil state, but to the Umma -- the Islamic nation.
There are many ways to be violent -- as 9/11 proved -- and they don't need to be spelled out in the Koran, but the seeds of that violence, the ideas that give rise to the violence, are right there in the Koran, which asserts the superiority of Arabs and their God Allah. In the past 1400 years, Islam has demonstrated that it consistently conquers and destroys non-Muslim cultures, using a variety of devices.
Muthuswamy: The evidence pointed out by distinguished
colleagues here, one way or the other, suggests Islam as an ideology
of conquest masquerading as a religion.
Operationally, much work is left to be done in undermining the
ideology and holding its backers accountable. The later falls under
the auspices of war on terror and in my view is outside the scope of
this symposium.
As there has been much discussion about Islamic theology by the
panelists, let me bring up an interesting perspective here.
In my view as a professional scientist, the so-called theological
roots of this ideology can be effectively discredited through
science. Science forms the proven basis of the modern era and
importantly, is seen credible even by educated Muslims.
Within the doctrine consisting of the Koran, Hadith and Sira, the Koran plays a unique role – as it is said to consist of “revelations” from God. Without the Koran, there is no power of divinity in the doctrine.
From historical sources we know that the Koran was the first book of the Islamic Trilogy to be put together, and that was done several decades after the death of Mohammed. In a Hadith it is said that Koranic verses were collected from bits of bone, stone, parchment, date palm leaves, and also from the memories of those who had memorized it.
For something said to be as profound as God’s revelations, there shouldn’t be an iota of doubt about their authenticity. Clearly, leaves, stones, bits of bone, and people’s memory are not reliable or complete forms of note-taking or information storage when Mohammed allegedly delivered his revelations. This is common sense.
We can make a powerful assertion that available evidence makes the claim of associating these revelations in the Koran with God not scientifically credible.
Second point to be noted: Immersed in a rudimentary and often flawed understanding of nature, the tribes Mohammed belonged to were not well-placed to identify phoney messengers of God or falsehood.
Indeed, we can and we must discredit the standing of the Koran and Mohammed, the “Messenger” — and popularize the line of reasoning that Islam was likely deliberately designed to extend Mohammed’s powerbase and that of the extended tribes of Arabs beyond
his time. As a result, Arab conquest and the continued genocide of non-Arabic cultures is only a natural consequence.
Kasem: I have already provided the theological foundation
for the Islamic cultural genocide of indigenous people. As long as
Muslims are motivated, guided, and commanded on these canonical
provisions, there will be no letup on this fascistic domination of
Arab/Islamic culture on people who are weaker, either militarily or
financially.
To reinforce my point I shall request the doubters to visit a
poor Muslim country such as Bangladesh and experience what Arab/oil
money has done to its indigenous culture, norms and traditions, even
to the extent of dress of the Bengali men and women. Just about
twenty years ago, there was very little evidence of such cultural
genocide. But with the oil/Arab money pouring in, Bangladesh it is
slowly but surely turning into a ‘look like’ an Arab country.
Intelligent people will note that an Arab/Islamisation is on the
way for the UN too. Very soon we might see the domination of the UN
by the Islamists, thanks to the vast oil/Arab money. It is so easy
to buy all the important people/ leaders of the UN through enormous
gift/charity, offered in the name of Human Rights (read Islamic
Human rights). It is a shame that the entire world is now under the
threat of Islamic cultural genocide. The world is clearly polarised
between Arab/Islamic block and the non-Arab/infidel block. Whether
this might end in a cataclysmic victory of Islam or the triumph
infidels will depend on how resolutely the non-Islamic world resists
this lure of Arab/Islamic money.
Lastly, I have offered my honest assessment of the current
situation vis-à-vis Islam/Arab supremacy and the infidel world. It
is not meant to be racist or bigoted.
Roderick: Mr. Haidon makes an astute observation: violence
is not the exclusive cause of cultural genocide. All too often we
are blinded by the headlights of dramatic acts of terrorism and fail
to even notice the transformation of society that is happening on a
daily basis. The culture that has lost touch with its own
foundations, whose energy and vibrancy has grown tired, gives way to
the methodical demands for accommodation that gradually transforms
society. Terrorism and micro-violence are tactics to destabilize and
wear down culture. The notion of Islamic separatism, whether is
appears as segregated class rooms, parallel Sharia-based courts and
financial institutions, once established, mutates into a separate
and unequal society. Institutional discrimination, intimidation and
the erosion of personal rights soon follow. This is the force which
prods along subtly and with greatest impact.
The Organization of Islamic Countries’ initiative, Resolution
7/19 on “Combating Defamation of Religions,” was adopted by the
United Nations Human Rights Council on March 27. The resolution
arose from the OIC’s ten-year action plan to move the UN to
establish legal mechanism to combat Islamaphobia. The proponents
argued that insulting the religious symbols of Islam should not be
protected by freedom of expression. The resolution urged States to
take action to prohibit the dissemination of racist and xenophobic
ideas and material aimed at any religion or its followers that
constituted incitement to racial and religious hatred, hostility or
violence and encouraged States to provide adequate protection
against acts of hatred, discrimination, and coercion resulting from
defamation of religions. Delegates agreed that there must be a
balance between free expression and acts that defame religions. This
action signals a move from universal principles of human rights to
the particularization of those rights; a shift from the universal
recognition of the inherent dignity, equality and inalienable rights
of all human beings individually, to the rights of groups. The
resolution is a product of the group politic that has metastasized
in the United Nations. Unfortunately, it sets a dangerous precedent
that Islamists will use to undermine the essential foundation of
western civilization, freedom.
Mr. Kasem points to the 800 pound gorilla in the room, and,
perhaps the most potent element in the recent success of the
Islamization of Muslim countries and non-Muslim countries, Arab/oil
money. Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world that has
infused religious proselytization into its foreign policy. Over the
past 30 years it has spent nearly 100 billion dollars promoting and
supporting Wahhabi Islamic institutions around the world. The
economic and security interests of the West make it beholden to Arab
oil, thereby fueling the very entity that threatens its survival as
a viable culture. The failure to seriously consider the role of
religion in foreign policy, especially that of Islamic countries,
has made the West nearly impotent in protesting the erosion of
social discrimination and abuse of religious minorities in Muslim
dominant countries.
According to the State Department report on International
Religious Freedom, nine out of the 18 countries of the Near East and
North Africa region have regressed in terms of protecting religious
minorities from social problems and discrimination. There was no
measurable progress in the remaining nine countries. From the
perspective of the religious minorities, the West appears to play
the role of a passive onlooker as their cultural genocide continues
unabated.
Haidon: This symposium has served as a useful exercise in
problem identification. All of the participants have raised
important and valid points, particularly Mr Kasem for his overview
of Islamic history and jurisprudence. Again, while I do not believe
that the Qur'an mandates cultural genocide, I acknowledge that it is
invoked by radical Muslims and Islamists to justify it. While
myself, and other Muslims "reformers" advocate a markedly different
approach to interpreting Islam that challenges conventional
interpretation, these views are outside the realm of mainstream
Islamic thought, and reside in the periphery. Until they become more
integrated with mainstream Islamic thought, I cannot in good
conscience argue that these views are relevant to the immediate
issue. Mr BetBasso's point about Christian doctrine and
jurisprudence is well taken. Any attempt at equating Islam and
Christianity in this regard is farcical.
Rev. Roderick provides insightful and timely examples of the
increasing role Islamism plays in international institutions. The
actions of the OIC are an excellent example of the influence
Islamists are wielding at the international level, as are the
corresponding reactions and capitulations by UN states. The United
Nation's primary human rights bodies are also playing a role in this
capitulation by seeking to suppress legitimate criticisms of radical
Islam, in the guise of fighting "religious vilification". The
emergence of "lawful Islamism" and broader moves for legal
exceptionalism and accommodation for Islam (without corresponding
reciprocity) are growing problems in the West, and brings to mind
the "boiling frog" analogy. While Islamist aggression manifested
through physical violence will always be more visible, it is the
more stealth and legal Islamism that seeks to effectuate change
through Western institutions that is emerging as the silent enabler.
FP: Rev. Keith Roderick, Peter BetBasoo, Abul Kasem, Thomas Haidon and Dr. Mutthuswamy, thank you for joining Frontpage Symposium.
- Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
- Date: Friday June 06, 2008
- Time: 21:21:48 -0700
Comment
Thanks to FP ,for bringing this aspect of cultural, population genocide of nonmoslems committed by the followers of the pedo,rapist,slave perpetrator/promoter,killer, fascist,intolerant Mo and his evil.wicked,cruel, hatefilled, vengeful theology /plague called ISLAM. ............ My question to the world leaders,thinkers, intellectuals, scholars, philosophers - we have endured this demonic ,monstrous,cruel killing savage cult called ISLAM for 1450 yrs . How long we have to watch this slaughter and destruction by the followers of MO ? cant the people of the world unite and put an end to this demonism ? Cant the leaders of the free world, nonmoslem world , chalk out an intelligent programme to counter this ISLAMIC monster . Moslems have an OIC based on their religion !!!!!!!!!! In ISLAMIC countries nonmoslems are treated like slaves without any rights, eventhose nonmoslems are citizens of their countries. Nonmoslems are treated with utmost discrimination and as 4th class citizens in ISLAMIC countries under ISLAMIC rule !!!!! what is the UN body doing to bring equality to all human beings, equality of all religions, equal justice ,equality of women ? Let us see what the U N body will do in the next one year !!!
- Name: asian infidel
- Date: Friday June 06, 2008
- Time: 22:07:03 -0700
Comment
Same thing also happens in Indonesia, the country with the largest muslim community. The rich Indonesian cultures are now threatened by Arabization. Sadly, Indonesian people do not see that as a problem. Something must be done.
- Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
- Date: Friday June 06, 2008
- Time: 22:21:10 -0700
Comment
Urge the international community to act and take immediate steps to : Declare QUURRAN- contains many many verses -as the hateful speach/writings , instigating,inciting Mussalmaans to kill, wage JIHAD ,against nonmoslems, Actually QQURRAN is not a religious/spiritual entity, but the rantings,blabberings of a primitive, savge,backward ,dark minded ideas, hallucinations of a deranged ,psychopath and a megalomaniac . No nonmoslem country in the world should give special privileges ,rights,acceptence,recognition unless and until all moslem countries acknowledge, accept,recognize, extend all human rights, citizen ship privileges to nonmoslems living in ISLAMIC countries. All the ISLAMIC countries must accept equality of all religions, equality of all people, equal secular laws to all , and all the ISLAMIC countries must allow the building of churches, temples,synagogues just as Moslems are allowed to build mosques in all nonmoslem countries. In one word - reciprocity and equality must be ,demanded and implemented immediately. Until ISLAMIC countries accept reciprocity, equality, there must not be any more tolerance, of this brutal,barbaric ,uncivilized,fascist, totalitarian ,imperialistic, ISLAM and it's followers.
- Name: Holy Ghost
- Date: Friday June 06, 2008
- Time: 22:53:01 -0700
Comment
If we consider Earth as a living entity, then good religions and philosophies are like food which the Earth intakes with choice. Highly learned people and philosophers stop the degradation of societies from time to time but there is a catch to all this, food is taken by choice sometimes as a necessity but SHIT HAPPENS, no one produce it deliberately, its just the by-product of body. ISLAM resembles the SHIT of Earth and its job of good Samaritans to rescue as many Muslim people out of this Shit as possible and flush out the rest. Earth is saying “Tummy is rumbling too much, need to push some Jihadist down the drain”
- Name: vbv
- Date: Friday June 06, 2008
- Time: 23:59:08 -0700
Comment
Islam is arabic barbarianism , as I have often written. Just imagine the whole world islamised, will there be peace ,enlightenement, economic progress and any art,sculpture,painting of humans/animals/nature, music , cinema ,dance, drama/plays,television,radio etc.? No. Certainly nothing but five times of howling and 'namaaz', women in sacks petrified of men raping them, men totting weapons showing loyalty to various warlords/sheiks on a killing spree to establish their cruel and barbaric hegemoney , trying to be more fundamentalist than their neighbours - infact wallowing in filth,ignorance ,fear and terror! We have seen that happening in Afghanistan. What about Saudi Arabia,Iran,Iraq, Syria, Somalia,Sudan,Nigeria,etc all following the cult of islam? A desolate and miserable condition pervades their existence with islam in its purest wahabi form. The non-muslims should recognise this and educate thes zombies in true values of modern democracy and egalitarian culture and above all tolerance.Not the fake 'democracy' imposed by the American with ulterior motives of robbing that country of its natural resources! Anyway , the symposium seem to be moving in the right direction.
- Name: Solid arguments against the Qur'an
- Date: Saturday June 07, 2008
- Time: 00:02:54 -0700
Comment
http://www.answering-faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=1462
- Name: Islam is against any Culture
- Date: Saturday June 07, 2008
- Time: 04:42:06 -0700
Comment
Against free speech, against painting, against creating of sculptures, against music, dancing and against anything creative. There is no meaningful book market in many arab and muslim countries because many muslims think they don´t need to read books written by humans while they have one written by god. They think they don´t need any culture at all. They are so happy because they can pray every day and beat their wifes until they enter heaven and f**k their 72 big boobed horny virgins. What do this people need any culture for?
- Name:
- Date: Saturday June 07, 2008
- Time: 06:43:01 -0700
Comment
Like Akhter always says you the kafirs are dumb , deaf and blind and can't even produce a chapter like the one in Quran, now that is a good rhyme.
- Name: Marie
- Date: Saturday June 07, 2008
- Time: 08:41:55 -0700
Comment
"Like Akhter always says you the kafirs are dumb , deaf and blind and can't even produce a chapter like the one in Quran, now that is a good rhyme." That is because Islam produces nothing but extremely low IQ's.
- Name: Islam is not the solution - it is part of the problem.
- Date: Saturday June 07, 2008
- Time: 13:46:22 -0700
Comment
However, the situation in muslim countries is far too complicated to blame only islam. There is no meaningful opposition in many muslim countries, only the islamists are strong enough to challenge the dictatorships. It´s a dilemma not easy to be resolved. I am afraid many countries must experience an islamofaschistic government before they become able to understand that islam is wrong. It is similar to nazism in germany and austria or communism in eastern countries. People must suffer before they learn from it.
- Name: Mohammad
- Date: Saturday June 07, 2008
- Time: 15:14:47 -0700
Comment
Christianity also has replaced many pagan temples with churches with support from the roman empire. That's the nature of empires to build a homogeneous people in order to control and manage them. The Islamic empire was not an exception. The Arab Caliphate had no power for the most part of Islamic history on how local kings and rulers run their societies and enhance their culture. The Iranians, Turks, Indian, and Spanish Muslims were being ruled by their own people. If a culture had what it took to stay alive, it did; for example the Iranian culture, language, and traditions are still pretty much alive. In the case of Kurds, even the clothing, dancing, and music are preserved without much influence from the Arab culture. But if a culture was on the verge of bankruptcy, the only contribution of Islam to the disappearance of that culture was to facilitate it and replace it with a much more forceful, new, and lively culture. The western European culture on the hand has all the criteria that the panelists are attributing to the Islamic culture: it is destroying all other cultures and leaves no stones unturned. Again this is natural. Human cultures also go through an evolution, a natural selection if you will. Every nation and culture has a time period to shine. We are living in the period in which the western culture is shining.
- Name: To Mick
- Date: Saturday June 07, 2008
- Time: 19:57:42 -0700
Comment
Akhter, do you think your foolishness will not allow people to know who you are?
- Name: Northern Bear
- Date: Saturday June 07, 2008
- Time: 21:25:50 -0700
Comment
I notice that the same stupid Muslims seem to be here... FFI must be doing something right and they must be be really getting under Muslim skin, and scaring the crap out of them if they're constantly attacking the FFI website instead of disproving the charges laid against Mohammed. The commenters on FFI aren't so much boring (and they're not) as they're always side-tracked by the same goofs (Muslims) sharing the same brain- and a most disfunctional one it is. The Muslims should pretend to be grown-ups and simply disprove Ali Sina with words... that should tell you why they attack his website.
- Name: islam sucks
- Date: Sunday June 08, 2008
- Time: 02:31:38 -0700
Comment
islam sucks. mohammad ,the mad man in the sky being burnt in palm fire.
- Name: Northern Bear
- Date: Sunday June 08, 2008
- Time: 06:11:48 -0700
Comment
"Muthuswamy: The evidence pointed out by distinguished colleagues here, one way or the other, suggests Islam as an ideology of conquest masquerading as a religion." The person who provided the preceding post managed to prove the articles points. That previous post is an example of some of the long, and in FFI's case, normally completely irrelevent post that the website is constantly innundated by. I say again that FFI must really frighten Islam.
- Name: From a Christain.
- Date: Sunday June 08, 2008
- Time: 13:24:58 -0700
Comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojIzkNa5tMM AFTER WATCHING YOU WILL AGREE HOW RACIST THESES PEOPLE ARE.
- Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
- Date: Monday June 09, 2008
- Time: 20:09:39 -0700
Comment
I implore.No nonmoslem should even consider to compromise with ISLAMISTS/JIHADISTS/ISLAMIC terrorists/ISLAMIC fascists/ISLAMIC imperialists. As such , the rest of nonmoslem world/people are far ahead of MOSLEMS in all aspects of human civilization. Nonmoslem world is accepting democracy, freedom, liberty, liberal humanism, equality of religions, equality of gender,equality of women, childrens rights, freedom of conscience, freedom of choice, kindness, compassion ,monogamy, cultural respects, sensitivity, pluralism,diversity, accepting music,dance, painting,singing as cultural aspects of human life......................... But for, allof the above the only exception is ISLAM/ ISLAMIC countries/Moslems/ ISLAMIC life style. ISLAM do not allow a woman and a man working in the same room !!!!!!!!!!!! ISLAM is based on inequality, injustice to nonmoslems, making nonmoslems slaves in moslem countries. So, please do not accept any universal ,noble values to be circumscribed, or undercut or abridged or substituted or complimentary. All the humanisty is one family - as the HINDU sashtras declare. But ISLAM is antihuman, antiscience, anti civilization, antieverything that human noble values stands for. So flush out QQURRAN the terrorist/fascist/killing manual,racist MO/ISLAM into sewage . ISLAM is incompatible with all the modern human values , human rights, equality, equal justice, equality of women,freedom, democracy,liberty, dance, music, sinnging,pluralism, equality of all religions.
- Name:
- Date: Tuesday June 10, 2008
- Time: 20:25:59 -0700
Comment
"Islam has insidiously made the conquered/converted people adapt to Arabic culture/tradition. Here are a few examples: Many Muslims of Bangladesh hate local culture, preferring Arabic culture. "________________________________________________________ For all their crowing against aping the West, it's actually not Western culture that's taking over them but Arab culture.
- Name: To Mohammad
- Date: Tuesday June 10, 2008
- Time: 21:45:52 -0700
Comment
Mohammad, what you're saying is not what I've seen. Since the rise of fundamentalist Islam, Arab culture has eaten up local culture through coercion and through declaring it haram. It had nothing to do with the bankruptcy of the native culture. Local cultural life has been much impoverished with increasing Islamisation. What you said about Christianity happened centuries ago, and even then cultural hegemony was never a part of Jesus' teachings. On the other hand, it is a basic tenet of Islam, which is why, in Islam, cultural takeover has endured to the present day, whereas it's declining in other societies.
- Name: Sufi Imdad Ali
- Date: Sunday June 15, 2008
- Time: 21:43:00 -0700
Comment
This is a ridiculous and out of context. I after reading such one sided and biased opinion regarding Islam, Holy prophet and Quran. Shallow and little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Islam believes in universal tolerance, maintain diversity and gives exclusive freedom of worship and freedom of expression. Muslims ruled Subcontinent more than twelve centuries but remained in minorities, they no doubt destroyed churches during the course of war because such specified temples were used as conspiracies. Muslims imposes jizya on non-Muslims as a tax to provide them shelter. Muslims are giving Zakat. There is second-class concept or dirty Indian or bloody juniors phrases were coined by Britishers and imperialists. They enslaved red Indians, killed hundred of thousands freedom fighters, stole fabulous wealth and started genocide ranging from Spain to Bosina. This is just a beginning. I would be more happy to hold discussions on topic to topic to remove misconceptions regarding Islam and Holy prophet.
- Name: alili
- Date: Tuesday June 17, 2008
- Time: 20:25:46 -0700
Comment
If islam is so horrendeous and genocidal, please point out which country that had been 'conquered' and utterly converted into islam? On the contrary, I think the mistake of the 'islamic conquerors' of the yester years was by not making total compulsory conversion to islam. Therefore leaving in their mids seeds of rebellion and weakeness. This was demonstrated in Spain during the Crusader war. Compare that to the treatments of Catholic missionaries to the native (south) Americans. Also, it is undeniable facts that the spread of islam through out the world was mainly through trading. You cold see that from the facts that all muslim populated areas were invariably located near shores, water ways, and trading posts. The upper lands remains untouched mostly, until the modern time. That's why Christian missionary able to hold foot in Indonesia. Lot's of inner-land tribal was still not islamized. Why they were note islamized? Because those islamic traders didn't have the slogan: gold, gospel, glory. They only came for the gold. Among them, there might be one or two who stay to teach islam to the locals who wanted to learn. But never with a backing of army with riffles and hordes of preachers. You might point out the conquering waves to north africa and south asia. But then they were empire expansions. Not so different with roman expansions, british expansion, spain, the nederland, and virtually all european countries during colonial times.
- Name:
- Date: Wednesday June 18, 2008
- Time: 13:10:32 -0700
Comment
Islam was spread by traders? Traders who wielded the sword I guess. All of north africa. syria.turkey etc were christian before the arrival of arab armies. Pressure and intimidation forsed them to convert. India was too large for conversion and they would have required more time but thay did manage to convert large chunks of it. Some were outrightly folled by the lies. The spanish conquistadores were guilty of crimes including forceful conversion but this does not have any backing from christian scripture. However islam does actively encourage this behaviour.
- Name: Matthew
- Date: Thursday June 19, 2008
- Time: 11:40:40 -0700
Comment
Colonialism and conversion by force is not endorsed by christ. It is endorsed by the quran. Christ never encouraged violence. The quran did. Theres the difference.
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- Time: 21:34:52 -0700
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