Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Confronting Islam: 'America as the Last Man Standing'

by Geert Wilders

11 Feb, 2009

This one is somewhat old, but some messages are never. One may not necessarily agree with his every point, but its central message—i.e., confronting the uncontrolled invasion of the West by Islam with a sense of urgency—is most important to take home. Let us not forget that the Muslim population in the UK is growing 10 times faster than the rest of the population. There is not a lot of time at hand to play hide-and-seek or trials and errors.
 
Posting of this message now is also an opportunity to express solidarity with Wilders, who is today banned from entering Britain. When you put your self-proclaimed destroyers on dole, while deny entry to those, who call upon you for saving what you stand for, then your suicide is inevitable.

Wilders' speech in New York on September 25, 2008, sponsored by the Hudson Institute.

 

Dear friends,

Thank you very much for inviting me.

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.

The Europe you know is changing. You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration. All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe . These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe , street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin . The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system.. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe . San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.

The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.

Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies, they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.

The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia.

If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West. It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a danger greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America—as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.

Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe 's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply don't have the right to do so.

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  • Name:
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 08:41:16 -0500

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Scary stuff, my friend. The tragedy is that our government (UK) is simply too scared of being seen as racist to do anything about halting the rise of these fanatics and will only react when it's far too late.

  • Name: Rana
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 09:31:27 -0500

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America needs to face the islamic danger. But the biggest danger american's need to confront is christianity. Under the born again christian Bush and his evil cronies the U.S.A invaded Iraq to steal their oil and convert their people to christianity. It is a fact that christian missionaries went into Iraq after the american troops occupied it. We should NEVER forget what the corpseworshipping american soldiers did to the innocent Iraqi non-combatans. Let's never forget Abu Graibh, the rape and massacre of innocent villagers etc etc. Evangelical christians still have a lot of influence in american politics (even with Obama in power) and they want to undo the seperation of church and state so they can freely terrorize non christians. islam and christianity are 2 sides of the same EVIL coin. the sooner manking get's liberated from these 2 demonic cults the better.

  • Name: Rana
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 10:06:39 -0500

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American's should turn to atheism. There was a good reason why the founding fathers of U.S.A implemented the separation of church and state policy but the evangelical christians want to undo that and they won't rest untill they succeed. Evangelical christian corpseworshippers want to control women by banning abortion, the are against gay marriages even when those two people love each other deeply, they hate the fact that there are other religions than christianity in america, christian KKK and other christian racist groups have been attacking people who are not white christians for a long time and they are still attacking them. In short: they are a bunch of radical's motivated by their 'holy book'. islam is a DANGER to worldpeace BUT so is christianity. islam is the devil that operates openly, christianity is the devil that disgueses itself as a sheep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

  • Name: Way forward.
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 10:38:14 -0500

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We call on Eastern Europe to gain back Europe from the Muslims. If the will is there Muslims can be easily defeated. Most are lazy and good-for-nothing. If Iran starts a war it is time to give Islam and Muslims a severe blow. Completely wipe them out, the mosques, religious teachers and Islamic schools.

  • Name: Let us support these humnaist Geert Wielders
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 11:32:14 -0500

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Let us support these humnaist Geert Wielders.

  • Name: balam
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 11:53:16 -0500

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It is extremely honest article which should open the eyes of the non-muslim world about the incalculable threat of Islam.There is no time to waste and bury your head in the sand and hope for the best.Credit goes to Israel and the United state of America to stand up to this challenge.The present American administeration and the liberal European governments are not keen to confrot the menace of Islam and their future genrations will pay a very heavy price.You have to live in a Muslim country or in a Muslim community to know the Muslim mind and behaviour.They are a lethal cancer for any civilised society.There is still time to save the civilised world before it reaches the point of no return.

  • Name: Deadly Disease
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 12:16:20 -0500

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The deadly disease (Islam) is already throughout the body (world) unless some drastic measure (worldwide military action) is adopted.

  • Name: Excesayces
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 12:22:22 -0500

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Even though this article look like disturbing one. But dont worry guys no one can take over the world. this is the universal law. many have failed in the past, so muslims too will fail. according to vedic astrology no one can take over the world.If there is evil , there is good too. if you have faith in god no one can stop us.

  • Name: Excesayces
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 12:27:58 -0500

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what happens if islam take over europe. it will be just like india where non muslim will have power over muslims. dont worry. if they are about to take over europe, christains wont just sit and watch. they will do something. Muslims are not intelligent enough to beat kaffirs.

  • Name: Rana
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 13:42:38 -0500

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The Vatican thanked the muslims for bringing 'religion' back to the secularised atheist Europe http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1090301/Vatican-thanks-Muslims-bringing-God-public-eye-Europe.html Just one little example of the fact that christianity and islam are 2 sides of the same coin.

  • Name: Philip Saenz
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 13:48:22 -0500

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Dear Rana, you mention one incident like Abu Graib and you're ready to condemn all religions. Any blood at Abu Graib? No. Any broken bones? No. So you're proud to be an atheist? Did you know that atheistic Communism and atheistic Nazism brought much more mayhem into the world than Abu Graib? Atheistic Nazism and atheistic Communism are responsible for 120 million deaths. So why be proud to be an atheist?

  • Name: Philip Saenz
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 14:01:28 -0500

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Dear Rana, what is it that you don't like about Jesus Christ? Jesus taught: "Love your neighbor." "Love your enemies." "Love those who persecute you, and do good to them." "Feed the hungry." "Clothe the naked." "Cure the sick." Millions of Catholics and Protestants are doing all of this. What is it you don't like about it? Did you ever hear of Mother Theresa? Mother Theresa is only an example of millions of Christians that practice Jesus doctrine. What's your objection? The Catholic Church has thousands and thousands of hospitals and clinics. Did you know that atheists don't build hospitals to help the people with infirmities? Why not build a hospital for atheists and other people in need? It would be a first for atheists. If ever you need to go to a hospital, it's okay if you go to a Christian hospital since atheists don't have hospitals. May God bless you.

  • Name: G.Ryan
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 14:21:43 -0500

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to philip saenz,nazi's(as in the party)had a love for all things pagan,that's still a religion,the commies got rid of religion,but not long after 1942 they soon changed their minds not only over faith but also over nationalism.to rana,you talk bollocks!all religion is man made with all that entails,don't think your's is any better than islam or christianity.

  • Name: Rana
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 14:37:26 -0500

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Luke 12:49-53 (King James Version) 49I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. Matthew 10:34 (New International Version) 34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Sure christianity is all about 'love' 'peace' and 'tolerance'. LOL. Btw many nazi's were christians, the vatican and the pope were silent when the Holocaust took place.They never condemned Hitler during the war. They even made deals with the facists under leadership of Mussolini. Keep on worshipping a stinking skinny corpse. The sooner those 2 demonic cults called christianity and islam get destroyed the better

  • Name: muslim=anti christ
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 14:43:02 -0500

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islamic world is a world of evil world of insanity,murder,superstition,pedophilia,.....and islam must be eliminated only by nuking islamic countries.in first step mecca medina and other important holy cities of them. then heavy bombardment of iran pigestan(pakistan) iraq turkey and other islamic countries in asia and africa. then massacaring all of muslims in europe and america continents.then killing all of their malicious friends such as leftist green party and human rights actives all over the world .this is the only and true world .get prepare atomic arsenals!!

  • Name: Rana
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 14:45:30 -0500

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christians have been burning 'witches'for a long time. This is a nice timeline: http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_burn2.htm But they never stopped. In the 90's in parts of south africa christians were still burning hundreds of 'witches'. and in 2008 a christian mob burned 11 elderly people in kenia because they suspected them of 'witchcraft'. christians will never fully abandon there evil tricks. The sooner that EVIL CULT gets destroyed the better

  • Name: Rana
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 15:03:39 -0500

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the christians want to make the non christians believe that the old testament doesn't aplly anymore and that only the new testament applies. That claim is a big fat lie because there are verses in the new testament that clearly say that the old testament is also binding http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

  • Name: muslim=anti christ to rana
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 16:17:09 -0500

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ooooh yoy are very brave very .we must congratulate a fellow such yoy. bcz you are doing a hard work. while you know christians are moderate and non violent people you are criticizing them.atheist in this time are same. for example dawkinz(nastiest asshole)and when people such as you encounter to muslims you piss in your pants bcz you fear from muslims like dogs bcz muslims are not same to christians and they slay you then you relief your self by christians hoooraa you are very brave ha haha

  • Name: Philip Saenz
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 17:35:57 -0500

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Dear Rana, you're like so many Protestants. Why do you suppose there are hundreds of contradictory Protestant sects? Answer: These sects make the same mistake that you do. Private interpretations will breed hundreds of contradictions. Rana, are you an infallible interpreter of Holy Writ? Obviously not. What assurance can you give me that God protects you when you give your interpretations? You don't even believe in a Cause of all causes,so how would you answer that question? You would have to assent and say that you are not protected by anyone from making mistakes when you try to interpret the Holy Bible. Poor Rana, when Jesus said that he would bring divisions, do you believe that Jesus wanted people to start fighting each other the way that Muslims fight each other, and the way atheistic Nazis and atheistic Communists initiated wars. No Rana, remember that Jesus was a peaceful Person. Peaceful persons don't want wars and all kinds of mayhem. Okay, so what does it mean when Jesus said that He would bring divisions? Answer: Jesus brought a peaceful message. Jesus was a very intelligent Person. Jesus knew that some people would accept His peaceful message. Jesus also knew that some people, the bad eggs, would not accept His peaceful message. So what happens? Subsequently there will be divisions. Now do you understand, or are you so insincere that you're only looking for a fight? When Jesus said that he would "bring a sword," or 'bring fire," did He mean that he would carry a sword and hack people to death with it, amd that He would burn down peoples' houses? If you're thinking evil, even if you know that Jesus was a pacifist, you might say: "Yes, that's what Jesus did." I hope you're not evil. May God bless you.

  • Name: Philip Saenz
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 17:58:11 -0500

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Dear Rana, you have a problem. Slow down kid and breathe a while. Of course the Old Testment applies to Chritians. I'm a Catholic. Yes, I love The Ten Commandments found in Exodus of the Old Testament. Some of the Commandments go like this: "Honor your father and mother." "Thou shalt not kill>" Wouldn't it be nice if everyone kept that beautiful Commandment of God? More: "Thou shalt not steal." "Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor." Rana, have you kept that last commandment faithfully? More: "Thou shalt not commit adultery." What about that one, Rana? "Thou shalt not covet your neighbors wife or husband." There are more, Rana, but I'm sure you get the drift. May God bless you, Rana, even if you don't think God exists.

  • Name: Philip Saenz
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 18:18:18 -0500

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G Ryan, I'm not so sure you're all that bright? What would happen if we all followed The Ten Commandments? Let's see if you can figure it out by yourself. Do you know The Ten Commandments? May God bless you, Ryan.

  • Name: jenn
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 19:06:54 -0500

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The problem with the west is that we have been bullied in to accepting that multiculturalism is good and that all cultures are good and must be respected. I ask this, whats so good about islamic cultures that mutilate their women , practice polygamy, condone honor killings and child marriages? whats so good about indian and asian cultures condoning the caste system, whats so good about African gang and tribal mentalities? whats so good about Eastern european drug gangs who have taken over the neighborhoods of our lands? whats so good about arranged marriages by people of the east who force their children to marry against their will? whats so good about cruel dictators and the lack of freedom? HOW COME ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH SUCH HORRIBLE AND CRUEL IDEOLOGIES ARE BRANDED RACISTS? ITS TIME THE WEST WAKES UP AND LEARN TO CALL A CAT BY ITS CORRECT NAME, INSTEAD OF CALLING A CAT A MOUSE.

  • Name: Rana is a MORON
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 23:35:58 -0500

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Hey Rana, try and stay focused. Morons like you only delute common sense. Christianity does not preach any kind of hate, unlike Islam. America has been a Christian nation since it's birth and has done very well for itself and the world. Keep your lies and filth in the Mosque where it belongs.

  • Name: To Philip Saenz
  • Date: Wednesday February 11, 2009
  • Time: 23:39:47 -0500

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Excellent point Philip. Rana is very foolish.

  • Name: ab
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 01:50:40 -0500

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Recently I read a very interesting book about why Christianity is failing in Europe. One of the main reasons cited was the Inquisition when it was estimated that almost 15 million people were killed or burnt at stake because their views did not match those of the Christian clergy and the Vatican. Till about 500 years back the Vatican thought that earth was the center of the Universe and everything else revolves around the earth. That is the reason why Galileo who said otherwise was banished. The Europeans who has seen all these for ages had been fed up with the Vatican and the clergy. So it is a fertile hunting ground for Islamists. America is still a very closed country where the horrors of the Inquisition did not take place and people have no knowledge about the activities of the Vatican (BTW, the Vatican is involved in all activities other than spiritual namely investments in stocks, currency and commodities markets, land dealings, influence peddling with various governments, running the Vatican Bank etc.). Church attendance is falling in both Europe and USA and that is the reason why the Vatican is now engaged in harvesting faith in Asia. Instead they should be concentrating their energy in retaining faith in their religion in Europe.

  • Name: Standing upto Islam
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 02:00:42 -0500

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This view is wrong.India has stood upto Islam for the past 1200 years.Now it has started reversing the trend.West is still succumbing to Islam whereas India has started coming out successfully. In fact many people in Pakistan and Bangladesh are also coming out.The results will be visible in one or two decades.

  • Name: Sanjay
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 02:26:04 -0500

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Very well put. We in India have seen what happens when a territory has a critical mass of muslim population - it becomes out of bounds for non - muslims. This is exactly what Pakistan is. Kashmir valley has also been cleansed of non - muslims (Pandits who were culturally and intellectually most advanced segment of valley population). This is what happens in any muslim dominated neighbourhood in India. It is high time we said "thus far and no further, modernize or you will be dealt with like enemies."

  • Name: Europe fights back - with Darwin!
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 02:48:44 -0500

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Today is Darwins 200th birthday and even the catholic church recognises that his Evolution Theory is true! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/4588289/The-Vatican-claims-Darwins-theory-of-evolution-is-compatible-with-Christianity.html However, while christians can accept the evolution theory, it is very problematic for muslims because they claim that the quran was written by god, while christians believe that the bible was only "inspired" by god. Thus, Islam is over! Earlier or later it WILL collapse! Yeahhh!

  • Name: Europes secret Weapon against Islam
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 03:01:22 -0500

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Islam is so overdue! Even the Vatican agrees that humans are related to monkeys. And all the fundamentalist liars who claim that Darwin is over are trapped in their own contradictions! http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5705331.ece

  • Name: Rejoice! Islam is over!!!
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 03:11:27 -0500

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The world is embracing Darwin! No islamic or any creationism any more! Outside Europe, China, Japan and all other civilised countries agree that Darwin was right! http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/02/vatican-backs-darwin-dumps-cre.html

  • Name: Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Atheists agree with Darwin!
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 03:19:03 -0500

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Quote: "A recent poll by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that Catholics joined mainline Protestants, Orthodox Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and the “unaffiliated” in accepting evolution as the best explanation for the origin of human life on earth. The strongest opponents of evolution were Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons and evangelical Christians (76 per cent of whom opposed evolutionary theory.) U.S. Muslims were almost evenly divided on the question [Vancouver Sun]." http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/02/11/vatican-gives-darwin-a-big-birthday-hug-leaving-creationists-on-the-fringes/

  • Name: pervez massih
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 03:49:49 -0500

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The question arises "Why muslim population is increasing ?" If they are so wild. There must be some reasons which you have missed. After all Europeans are not foolish to accept every thing. The literacy rate over there is almost100%. There is something special about Islam. America is a Super power,not a third world country.British ruled more than 250 years in Subcontinent but they could not impose their religion.So my dear you should first look into your religion. christianity , judism offer nothing. Islam does. Islam is not a name of Jihad, women and terrorism. Read it carefully. I simply take the example of "interest" . Islam prohibits to take interest.If you do a business share the profit or loss. Prize bond , insurance, lotteries all are "haram"i.e strictly prohibited.Suppose 1000 people take part in a lottery and only top three or 300 take prizes.Is it not injustice to those who got nothing? After all they were also share holders. There is a direct link between interest and unemployment. There are also other things in Quran. Property distribution, women rights, charity etc etc. I think it is all propaganda.

  • Name: RE: PArvez Masih
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 04:00:29 -0500

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All I can say for you my friend is that your brain is like a donkey and Islam is like a mosque. So everytime you enter the mosque leave your donkey outside.

  • Name: Re: pervez massih
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 04:09:34 -0500

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You are just revealing that Islam is wrong. Interest is not wrong at all, what is wrong is that sharks may take to high rates. But if the rates are ok it is a true win-win situation for both parties. The one who needs money and the one who has money but doesn´t need it. The fact that the muslim world does not have a meaningful midsized pricate economy is evidence that the quran is wrong. And there is indeed a connection between interest and unemployment: Unemployment rates in muslim countries are much higher because the economy cannot develop. And what is wrong with insurances? Are you kidding? Do you want people to die because they have no health insurance? Or insurance against accidents? I guess you are one of the Deobandis still believing in backwardness! People who are insured against accidents can begin a second life while people who are not can´t! Who is better off???

  • Name: JIHAD AND ORGAN SALE IS ECONOMIC ACTIVITY
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 04:17:38 -0500

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dear sir,u r making false claim that muslims dont do any economic activity.doing jihad and killing infidels by staying in their country is a great economic acitivity.beside this,selling body parts sepcially kidneys is a flourising trade in bangladesh, pakistan etc.so pls correct yr vision,muslims r very productive creating so many organs donors also. we shud encurage this till all world collapses,

  • Name: Philip Saenz
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 05:38:48 -0500

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To AB, you are so silly. Where did you get your numbers, out of a phone directory? At that time, there were only about 60 million inhabitants in all of Europe. That means that Spain killed 25 percent of Europeans. That's a lot of inquistion, don't you think? Why don't you read history instead of giving estimations? There were about 2,000 people murdered, mostly Jews by the inquisitors, about six per year for about 350 years. Of course it's sad. Hey, AB, the Catholic Church was not founded to study astronomy. Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church to teach only morals and faith. It's true that some Catholics study astronomy as well as medicine, mathematics, among other things. But I don't see anything wrong with that. Of course mistakes are made in some of these sciences, but why should you attribute that to the Catholic Church just because the members happen to be Catholic? That's unfair. However, astronomy and other sciences have nothing to do with faith and morals. What I'm beginning to see is that Hindus hate just like the evil Muslims who hate. How many Christians have written hate mail here. Exactly none. But the blogs have been replete with atheist, Hindu and Muslim letters spewing more venom than a hundred cobras. AB, that was pure hatred when you insincerely gave an estimation of 15 million murders committed by Catholics. Again, let me say that the number was closer to 2,000 persons put to death. But why? It's because these Catholics deviated from The Ten Commandants, especially one of them, "Thou shalt not kill." I noticed that you,too, broke one commandment by unchartiably saying that Catholics murdered about 25 percent of all Europe. That's evil because the commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness" comes from God, your Creator. Believe it or not, you will have to answer for that to your Creator whether you are Hindu, atheist, or Muslim. If I were you Hindus, I would calm down and show charity toward others. Mostly, you Hindus don't love much more than evil Muslims. Why, for example, do you Hindus hate Jesus Christ? Is it because Jesus taught, "Love your neighbor"? Jesus also taught to "Love your enemies." Why do you many Hindus find that so hard? Were you, too, taught to hate Chrisians? Many of you even hated a courageous little nun by the name of Mother Teresa. Why? Is it because you saw her as a threat to your religion that had and still has to some extent the cast system, where some people become "untouchables"? You hated her because Mother Teresa was demonstrating in the area that the Hindu religion has failed miserably. Mother Teresa was practicing the virtues that Jesus taught: "Feed the hungry." "Clothe the naked." "Cure the sick." That was a threat to Hindus because their religion didn't teach these virtues. Why can't you Hindus of the upper crust love people who are down on their luck? AB, I can see by your hatred, that you and other Hindus are still failing. May your Creator bless you.

  • Name: Philip Saenz
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 05:57:15 -0500

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To Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Atheists agree with Darwin, I believe that you might be a little confused. Catholics for many years have believed in Evolution. However, the confusion arises because many of the so called Evolutionist have taught taught that we came from monkeys. It's impossible to have come from monkeys because they too evolve. Evolution has alway been real. Evolution is still going on in mammals. For example, in some areas people are growing bigger. But if you believe that we came from monkeys, then, you are confused. Do you believe we came from monkeys? As mentioned above, monkeys also evolve the passing of time. So no, we did not come from monkeys or any other mammal living at present.

  • Name: balam
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 07:03:28 -0500

Comment

Allah represents DEVIL.Mohammad is his spokesman and the Muslims are his fraudulent community.They are fake in any shape or form.They appear under Hindu or Christian names to deceive others.Shame on you ,Muslims.

  • Name: MA Khan to 'Philip Saenz'
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 08:37:12 -0500

Comment

Science doesn't say that we came from monkeys; it says monkeys are our closest relatives. Humans and Chimpanzees had a common ancestors, which was like neither of us as we are today; it was undoubtedly a much more simpler animal, from which we separated about four million years ago and underwent our own course of evolution. The proof of this is in our DNA, the defining informational warehouse of what we are. As you correctly said some visible changes, evolution, is happening which we can perceive from recorded data over decades or a couple of centuries, believer should ponder over the kind of change that can occur over a few million years.

  • Name: ab
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 08:58:28 -0500

Comment

Philip Saenz, Read this book called "Dead Sea Scrolls and the Crisis of Christianity" by Rajaram. It is available on Amazon. Read this quote below from the book Matilda Joslyn Gage tells us in her book Women, Church and State (New York: Arno Press,1972): It is computed from historical records that nine millions of persons were put to death for witchcraft [in Europe) after 1484, or during the period of three hundred years, and this estimate does not include the vast number who were sacrificed in the preceding centuries upon the same accusation. Assuming conservatively a similar figure for the ten centuries or so of Christianity previous to 1484, we arrive at a truly staggering figure of not far short of twenty million! - And this for witchcraft alone, and also not counting the enormous numbers of men, women and children that were consigned to the flames and the sword by the Jesuits and the 'Christian' soldiers in the Americas. It is worth taking a brief look at this blood-soaked chapter in human history - probably the most destructive chapter in the history of the world. A quote about Mother Teresa from the same book -Even Mother Teresa, undoubtedly the most admired Christian in the world today, is known more for her social work than anything within the realm of the spirit. (A closer examination however, shows her work to be little more than a largely secular, fund-raising and publicity campaign. The cloak of religion and social work have allowed her to accept money and honours from the most unsavoury quarters - including mass murderers like Baby Doc Duvalier of Haiti - with no questions asked. Articles in the authoritative British medical journal Lancet have shown her health care programs to be dismal, lacking in basic hygiene. It is not widely known that one cannot adopt children from her orphanages unless the parents are Catholics, or convert to Catholicism. She also helps recruit Indian priests and nuns for the rapidly emptying churches and seminaries of Europe and America. Even the United States Army has need of her recruits to serve as chaplains. More recently she has also been involved in an unseemly political campaign by Indian Bishops to give special job preferences to 'low caste' Christians. This is partly the result of the declining fortunes of the Church in Europe leading to reduced contributions flowing into the missions in India.) This brings us again to Mother Teresa - who has not been shy of accepting money and decorations in the name of God from criminal tycoons, drug lords, dictators and mass murderers. (Pat Robertson is less self-righteous, only more offensive.) The World Bank is not guilty of such practices though it has on occasion loaned money to countries ruled by dictators. I have not taken the trouble to find out if the World Bank has ever loaned money to Haiti, ruled by the Duvaliers ('Papa Doc' and 'Baby Doc') - among Mother Teresa's benefactors - who looted their country and organized mass executions. You should read this book, Philip. It is excellent and will be real eye-opener for you.

  • Name: ab
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 09:18:48 -0500

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Philip, Hindus don't hate anyone whether Muslims or Christians. What they hate is when these religions say they are the most supreme and go about converting other faiths. Facts speak for themselves. You find Hindus settled around the world but they don't go around converting other faiths calling them inferior. They don't get involved in suicide missions. Infact India which is predominantly Hindu is called a secular country. Nepal is the only country in the world which calls itself a Hindu country and no one asked them to do so. Buddhism is and offshoot of Hinduism but India has not gone into a war with China to convert its Buddhists. One can say that the ancestors of the present day Christians and Muslims in India were Hindus but the majority Hindus coexists with them and don't try to reconvert them back to the Hindu fold. In South India in a place called Velankanni there is a shrine for Mother Mary which is frequented by Hindus as well. Similarly there is a Dargah in Nagur in South India where Hindu Brahmins go and tonsure themselves (a Hindu practice). There is a shrine for Sai Baba in Shirdi who has followers from both Hindus and Muslims. There are lot of Sufi dargahs where Hindus go to prey. The Parsis of Iran took refuge in India when they were persecuted there. Hindus do all this because it is not a insecure religion. It believes in one truth but the paths to attain are many. If the Islamic Jihadists and the Christian evangelists leave India alone, all the religions in India including Jews will co-exist in India as they have done till now. Hope you get my point.

  • Name: Evidence that Humans are Relatives of Monkeys
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 10:15:12 -0500

Comment

Aren´t their some people with Rhesus in their blood?

  • Name: Philip Saenz
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 10:21:44 -0500

Comment

Mr. MA Khan, I never said that science said that we came from monkeys. I mentioned that we didn't come from modern monkeys because many people of other religions teach that Evolutionists teach that we came from monkeys. Of course you and I know that we didn't. Thanks anyway for your information. Yes, I know that there are similarities in monkeys and human beings. I and many others have never denied this. Did we come from a common ancestor? It's possible, but don't think that anyone really knows. That part is theory. How did everything begin? I don't think anyone really knows? However, I have a very good idea how everything began since I have witnessed things out of the ordinary, many times, that very few people have witnessed. Thank you and may the Cause of all causes bless you.

  • Name: From this verses below you can there is nothing you guys can say or do which is not expected
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 11:27:41 -0500

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39:45 When Allah, the one and only, is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the hereafter are filled with disgust and horror; but when gods other than he are mentioned, behold, they are filled with joy. 39:46 Say: O Allah, creator of the heavens and the earth. Knower of all that is hidden and open. It is you that will judge between your servants in those matters about which they have differed. 39:41 Truly we have revealed Al-Kitab to you in truth, for mankind. He, then, that receives guidance benefits his own soul: but he that strays injures his own soul. Nor are you set over them to dispose of their affairs. _____________I just finished watching Darwin theory of evolution on NAKED SCIENCE (WAS Darwin WRONG?) which is filled with a lot of assumptions and guesses? But If you believe in mathematics you know those assumptions and guesses will not pass probability 101!

  • Name: G.Ryan
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 11:41:21 -0500

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to philip saenz,you say that i'm not bright!look to yourself mate,not once in any posting on this site have i mentioned the ten commandments.i've broken most of them!you and rana must be related,you both talk shit.islam is bad but i have not put down any other religion.i reckon you and rana must be retarded.fuck all religion you retard.do you get it now!!!!!

  • Name: To Pervez Masih
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 11:45:45 -0500

Comment

You are in fact a Muslim shit,who is masquerading under Christian name.You Muslims are despicable.

  • Name: G.Ryan
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 11:56:33 -0500

Comment

to rana,the KKK currently has something like 10,000 members across the states.they are and always will be a joke.according to you no black or asian has ever attacked a white person?you know nothing of history or the people of the world,so stop your silly ranting and stick to the subject of islam.or you could join the thuggee sect,you sound mad enough.

  • Name: To Philip Saenz .... from Scrutator
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 12:11:38 -0500

Comment

Philip, you really need to read the Hindu holy books fully in order to understand their real import. I personally admire Christ's teachings in general, especially his Sermon on the Mount.It is full of wisdom. Even Swami Prabhupada, the founder of ISKCON accepted Jesus as a pure devotee(in his earthly role). But believe me, Hinduism (Sanatan Dharma) extends far beyond that level! Comments such as "People worship Me in different forms", "None is too dear or too hateful to Me" could only have come from the Bhagwat Geeta; I marvel at the high philosophy and extreme tolerance exhibited in the Geeta, sadly nothing like it can be found neither in the Bible nor in the Quran. Hindus do not hate Mother Teresa for her remarkable work amongst the downtrodden, but they object to the proselyzation that lies behind such social work. Indian ladies wishing to devote their lives working for the poor through Mother Teresa's organisation have to convert to Christianity first ! Much as I admire Jesus, I could not agree with his saying "no one goes to my Father(God) except through Me". Thoughtful people object to such exclusivity, which Christians of all denominations share with Islam. Catholics'(and other Christian's) missionary work in India invariably involves showing up other faiths in a poor manner(often falsely) and advocating its own supposed supremacy. Hindus' opposition to the workings of Christians' work must be understood from this point of view.

  • Name: G.Ryan
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 12:15:31 -0500

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to ab and philip saenz,you are both wrong about your figures for the inquisition.it ran from the 14th century(the old inquisition)until the 19th century.no-one knows the exact figures for victims in that time span but both of you are well out.after 1492 it did go to the americas.you both need to read a bit more befor making uninformed statements.stick to islam which is what this site is about.

  • Name: G.Ryan
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 12:28:58 -0500

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to rana,christians burn witches!can you tell us witch burners about the act of suttee,it sounds like we would love that quaint little custom you have!when was the last time you heard of witch burning in the west.stupid little person,there is bad in every culture mine and yours but islam is the threat that we are here to talk about,if you have a brain,remember that.

  • Name: Highly Exaggerated
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 12:54:58 -0500

Comment

--"It is computed from historical records that nine millions of persons were put to death for witchcraft [in Europe) after 1484, or during the period of three hundred years, and this estimate does not include the vast number who were sacrificed in the preceding centuries upon the same accusation."--This is a highly exaggerated and anomalous figure and its publication is meant for a malicious purpose.

  • Name: Susan W
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 13:07:50 -0500

Comment

Rana, you surely must be brain dead! How on earth does Christianity compare to Islam? For a start Christianity is a religion and Islam is a political ideology. Or are you too dumb to comprehend this? Modern Christianity does NOT mandate killing infidels by suicide bombing or by beheading. Modern Christianity does NOT mandate raping, torturing and killing people who don't worship God as Islam does to people who don't worship Allah! Christianity does NOT prescribe stoning a woman to death for commiting adultery! (Even if she didn't commit but was seen in the company of a man). Christianity does not prescribe female genital mutilation or treat woman like second class people! What is WRONG with you, Rana?! Think yourself lucky that you're not a sex slave to some Islamic pervert with four wives! Christianity does not allow a man to beat his wife! Christianity allows freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of self expression. Christianity is about loving each other. The Koran preaches hate and killing of infidels. Christianity does not support a father or brother killing his daughter or sister because of her refusal to wear the hijab! Nor does Christianity condone throwing acid in the face of a woman so that she will not be attractive to another man! Rana, did you even bother to read any of the article above? Do you even care for the victims of Islamic jihad! What about the genocide happening now in Darfur?! Do you care or have you got another irrelevant and ridiculous excuse to make out that Christianity is on a par with Islam? I think you must have a head injury or be extremely LOW in intelligence to believe what you do. Go and live under Islamic rule and then tell people that Islam and Christianity are the same, you MORON! I find it very hard to believe that anyone can be sooooo dumb or maybe just HEARTLESS for all the people who have suffered or died because of Islam! Susan W

  • Name: Philip Saenz
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 13:29:40 -0500

Comment

Scrutator, I am sure you are sincere, and I believe you are a good person. You would never have any problems with me. You're the kind of person that I would enjoy talking to. However, I would stay away from G. Ryan. He loses his cool too quickly. That's not a good sign. His language isn't the best. I still think he lacks calm human brains. May God bless the person anyway. I wonder why he hates Jesus Christ, who was so peaceful.

  • Name: Walter Sieruk
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 16:35:18 -0500

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"Since the stealth jihad is more advanced in Europe then it is in the United States, the situation there is more dire. Through massive immigration and official dhimmitude from European leaders, Muslims are accomplishing today what they have tried but failed to do for over a millennium: conquer Europe." [From the book STEALTH JIHAD:HOW RADICAL ISLAM AMERICA WITHOUT GUNS AND BOMBS by Robert Spencer p.270.

  • Name: Walter Sieruk
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 16:35:24 -0500

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"Since the stealth jihad is more advanced in Europe then it is in the United States, the situation there is more dire. Through massive immigration and official dhimmitude from European leaders, Muslims are accomplishing today what they have tried but failed to do for over a millennium: conquer Europe." [From the book STEALTH JIHAD:HOW RADICAL ISLAM AMERICA WITHOUT GUNS AND BOMBS by Robert Spencer p.270.

  • Name: Walter Sieruk
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 16:57:50 -0500

Comment

When Geert Wilders wrote "With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem." Likewise, the third President of the United States,Thomas Jefferson, wrote "The last hope of human liberty in the world rest on us. We ought, for so dear a stake,to sacrifice attachment and every emmity." and "Fortitude...teaches us to meet and surmont difficulties; not to fly from them."

  • Name: jenn
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 17:42:38 -0500

Comment

the problem with Hindus are that they cant accept that their God is a monkey named Hanumantha, while muslims cant accept that their allah is a moon god. wonder why? LOL

  • Name: Ibrahim
  • Date: Thursday February 12, 2009
  • Time: 22:57:01 -0500

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To all IW Forum members. Dear friends I think it would be better if we direct our energies towards fighting Islam and get involved in petty squallbles. All of us here are educated and know fairly well what happened in the course of history. However it is not History that is so much of importance, rather our present and future which are at stake. So kindly refrain from bringing in unrelated topics. BTW: Why don't the UK forum members do something about this Greet Wilders thing. I am sure if a lot of people oppose what the Muslims are trying to do, justice will be served. Its funny that immigrants in UK today have the authority to stop Europeans from visiting each other's countries.

  • Name: G.Ryan
  • Date: Friday February 13, 2009
  • Time: 05:51:24 -0500

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to philip saenz,the reason for my swearing is i don't like being called"not to bright".your so called facts are wrong,i put you right,so you call me thick!not a very christian attitude.as for jesus,i don't hate him but i won't have him or any god forced upon me.this site is about islam,stick to that,get your fact's right then there is no problem.can you grasp that concept?we'll see!

  • Name: To all christian fanatics
  • Date: Friday February 13, 2009
  • Time: 06:00:13 -0500

Comment

Hindus may revere a monkey God, or any animal because they realise that these animals are all a part of the ecological system. Hindus even revere trees,plants,mountains ,or snakes. They don't look down upon other species of this planet like the arrogant ,stupid monotheists who believe in a spooky ,imaginery character called god/yahweh/allah?. what's so special about these monotheistic gods? Nothing but they are sadistic, cruel, petty,jealous ,narcissistic, murderous and vengeful - all that fits in the resume of a mad despot! What's so great about jesus? He is a man who died pathetically on a wooden croos , and yet his dubious followers claim that he is their saviour? Muhamad is just a schizophrenic, psychopath and a sex-pervert. Both christianity and islam are the cause of all the turmoil,intolerance and bigotry in the world. Both are exclusivist. They have deep contempt for all other systems of beliefs. They lack philosophy: they expect just blind faith from their followers.They work with fanatical zeal to convert everyone to their cults. The key word is 'conversion'. Why? Because they insist that their god will not accept in his club of 'delights' anyone who doesn't have the membership of this exclusivist club. What sham and petty minded god thius is? Above all both are destructive cults. History is witness to the millions massacred by the zealots of both islam and christianity - there have been virtual genocides in the American continents,Australia , the Parsees were butchered and driven out of Iran , the blacks were taken in slavery for centuries by the racist followers of both these cults and the list goes on. What about jews? The jews suffered under christians in Europe and muslims elsewhere as "dhimmis" for centuries. Jews in India have always lived with freedom to practice their faith , so also the Parsees or zoroastrians, or muslims,or christians. St. Thomas came to India in the 1st century AD and he was allowed to preach and practice in India and also he was respected,even Francis Xavier in Goa is respected though he instituted the inquisition in Goa on the same lines as in Europe. Today muslims in India have freedom to practice their faith,like christians. The constitution guarantees them this. But no self-respecting person can tolerate if they denigrate and debunk indegenous culture to impose their cult on others. The violence against christians stems from this harsh truth,which christians, whitemen find it hard to stomach. In these fraudulent missioneries stop forcible conversion and respect indegenous faith and culture ,this problem would not have arisen. So all you christian fanatics through away your blinkers and see the truth in correct perspective.

  • Name: balam
  • Date: Friday February 13, 2009
  • Time: 06:05:20 -0500

Comment

Susan W,You have put your thoughts very explcitly for Rana,who is nothing but a shameless and brainless Muslim.These Muslims worship a man,who was scizophrenic,suffered from auditory and visionary hallucinations,had a paranoid personaity and delusions of grandeur.He was abnormal and so are his followers subnormal and deficient in intellect and they contribute nothing useful to the world like their horny prophet.

  • Name: To all christian fanatics
  • Date: Friday February 13, 2009
  • Time: 06:05:58 -0500

Comment

Hindus may revere a monkey God, or any animal because they realise that these animals are all a part of the ecological system. Hindus even revere trees,plants,mountains ,or snakes. They don't look down upon other species of this planet like the arrogant ,stupid monotheists who believe in a spooky ,imaginery character called god/yahweh/allah?. what's so special about these monotheistic gods? Nothing but they are sadistic, cruel, petty,jealous ,narcissistic, murderous and vengeful - all that fits in the resume of a mad despot! What's so great about jesus? He is a man who died pathetically on a wooden cross , and yet his dubious followers claim that he is their saviour? Muhamad is just a schizophrenic, psychopath and a sex-pervert. Both christianity and islam are the cause of all the turmoil,intolerance and bigotry in the world. Both are exclusivist. They have deep contempt for all other systems of beliefs. They lack philosophy: they expect just blind faith from their followers.They work with fanatical zeal to convert everyone to their cults. The key word is 'conversion'. Why? Because they insist that their god will not accept in his club of 'delights' anyone who doesn't have the membership of this exclusivist club. What sham and petty minded god thius is? Above all both are destructive cults. History is witness to the millions massacred by the zealots of both islam and christianity - there have been virtual genocides in the American continents,Australia , the Parsees were butchered and driven out of Iran , the blacks were taken in slavery for centuries by the racist followers of both these cults and the list goes on. What about jews? The jews suffered under christians in Europe and muslims elsewhere as "dhimmis" for centuries. Jews in India have always lived with freedom to practice their faith , so also the Parsees or zoroastrians, or muslims,or christians. St. Thomas came to India in the 1st century AD and he was allowed to preach and practice in India and also he was respected,even Francis Xavier in Goa is respected though he instituted the inquisition in Goa on the same lines as in Europe. Today muslims in India have freedom to practice their faith,like christians. The constitution guarantees them this. But no self-respecting person can tolerate if they denigrate and debunk indegenous culture to impose their cult on others. The violence against christians stems from this harsh truth,which christians, whitemen find it hard to stomach. If these fraudulent missioneries stop forcible conversion and respect indegenous faith and culture ,this problem would not have arisen. So all you christian fanatics throw away your blinkers and see the truth in correct perspective.

  • Name: Greg Fiber
  • Date: Friday February 13, 2009
  • Time: 11:22:57 -0500

Comment

You have 20:20 vision! How to rid Europe of islam is a problem whose time is coming. I don't see us interring muslims in their millions... hardly practical and physically impossible. What I do see is Europe gradually leaning to the Right, with governments just beginning to realize the scenario you portray. The best way to deal with this problem is to tear-up "human Rights" legislation and start again. Also to immediately impose a total ban on immigrants from Asia and Africa. Furthermore, the financial benefits afforded to immigrants will be stopped, firstly because we cannot afford them anymore, and secondly because these alien hordes who depend on handouts, housing, schooling etc... will think twice before entering Europe if they are going to have to "earn" their way. I fear for my children, but at the same time I do not think that the indigineous populations of Europe are going to let their governments continue to admit these types of immigrants. Britain will change governments in 2010, the rest of Europe is following.

  • Name: G.Ryan
  • Date: Friday February 13, 2009
  • Time: 12:49:28 -0500

Comment

to all hindu's,not all of us in the west look down on you,in fact most right thinking people respect you.i hope that these fundamental christians will leave this site.i have said countless times,that we are here to discuss islam not slag off other religions.everybody is entitled to their faith,as long as i'm entitled to mine what ever that may be.let's all get back on track.

  • Name: Stop Brain Washing
  • Date: Friday February 13, 2009
  • Time: 23:05:08 -0500

Comment

again i say that this site is mainly depend on 1_take part of the quran and leave the other and this not accepted. 2_adding some words to the quranic verse to get his intended propaganda in some verses. 3_use arabic names and the site claim that the admins re ex_muslim and this is fake too and using arab names wont support ur propganda. 4_the site show how the admins think with ahtered aginst the other relegion and the site mix. politics in relegion to get his intended propaganda. 5_i added some comments which were in good way and accepted and the site del. them or hide them i cannt find them now. 6_the translation of quran in the site the author mix. some words which renot in quran. and finnaly i advice all non_muslims not to follow the media and the articles that not qualified ..and any one wanna to know about islam i advice him to read the quran and do his own search and dont follow liars and cheaters like whom made that site and actually itis not logic even for non_muslims to allow any one to cheat them even if he was non_muslim too ..b/c cheating isnot accepted ok..and we all see that islam spreeding dailly although all this propaganda aginst it..and inshallah all lairs and cheaters will gain nothing of their propaganda aginst islam.. and although i dont know english alot but i think u get wut i mean ..Stop hatered..Stop brain washing..

  • Name: Rana
  • Date: Saturday February 14, 2009
  • Time: 08:04:17 -0500

Comment

the filthy christian corpse worshipping 'religious' influence is causing 'witches' to be burnt to death in Papua New Guinea. In parts of Africa those christian corpseworshippers are also burning 'witches'. Christians pretend that 'witchburning' doesn't exist anymore. But they are lying. Before the introduction of christianity witchburning did not exist after that demonic cult got introduced people got brainwashed enough to start burning 'witches'. christianity and islam are the same, both are EVIL and both need to be DESTROYED completly. The biggest criminals go can always find in the church sitting in the front row seats

  • Name: To Rana
  • Date: Saturday February 14, 2009
  • Time: 08:34:20 -0500

Comment

Do this experiment so that you will be able to differentiate Islam from Christianity: 1) Go to a Christian neighborhood and condemn Christianity. 2) Go to a Muslim neighborhood and condemn Islam. Write down your observation and post your conclusion here. (Hope you escape with your life in #2).

  • Name: Colleen
  • Date: Sunday February 15, 2009
  • Time: 05:49:16 -0500

Comment

You just scared the shit out of me! I had no idea of any of this!

  • Name: G.Ryan
  • Date: Sunday February 15, 2009
  • Time: 12:03:13 -0500

Comment

to rana retard.burning of witches is more a cultural thing in parts of the world,they did it before christianity and will continue to do so until they can see sense.i have a great respect of all things indian but you continue to burn widows and have a caste system.christianity was a bad thing in the past,now it's a spent bullet.all races have faults but don't think you are any better than others.

  • Name: Johnnywad
  • Date: Sunday February 15, 2009
  • Time: 13:02:03 -0500

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Rana it's people like you that give mankind a bad name. If I were you I would blow myself up. I'm ready for the word to take out the mosques in the US. This is were islam(radical) starts and where it needs to be eliminated as soon as possible

  • Name: Islamthecult
  • Date: Sunday February 15, 2009
  • Time: 13:32:35 -0500

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Enough said. "Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies."

  • Name: G.Ryan
  • Date: Sunday February 15, 2009
  • Time: 17:15:24 -0500

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to rana retard, please explain to us all how your posts are related to the islamic threat! to all christian and hindu fanatics, find another site to squabble on, you're idiots! HIS SITE IS ABOUT ISLAM!!!

  • Name: Amit Patel
  • Date: Sunday February 15, 2009
  • Time: 22:25:10 -0500

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I have visited several countries in Europe and to say the least was aghast at the rapid Ismalization that's taking place there. Every day we hear about scores of illegal Muslim immigrants reaching the shores of Greece, and Italy from South Asia, Middle East, North Africa. Most of these people are brought in by smugglers from Pakistan, Bangladesh and the Middle East. I already see the demise of Europe as it once had been, Unless this trend is stopped and all Muslims (non-citizens) are despatched to their countries of their origin Christian Europeans will be an extinct race in a century from now. Even though Muslim population in the US is increasing at a much more rapid rate than any other religious group, there numbers are still low. I only hope Americans see through this game and not let the country being taken over by Islamists as in Europe. I say this being myself a recent immigrant to America. I am Hindu and strongly believe (just as all our co-religionists) that if we are in Rome we need to be Roman. Hindusim like all the other great religions (with the sole exception of Islam) eshews in us the spirit of universal brotherhood, co-existence and tolerance which helps our assmilation into foreign cultures. I also believe that the west will surely lose its aura and greatness, if ever they dilute their Christian ethos such as large scale import of migrants who refuse to assmilate, and who practice an religion/idealogy which is totally contradictory to their Christian values.....Amit, Atlanta, USA.

 
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