Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Germany: Report on Islamization, 2007

Presented at the Counter Jihad Brussels 2007 Conference, and reproduced in Islam in Europe:
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I want to review the islamization situation in Germany. First of all, how many Muslims live in Germany? We don't really know. The Federal Government says 3.1 to 3.4 million. This would mean about 4 percent of the total population.

Similar estimates have been that until summer 2006 there were some 8 million people of immigrant background in Germany, of whom about 40% were Muslims. Yet the Government admits that its figure is only an estimate, not based on verified statistics. Some observers, such as the Mideast expert Hans-Peter Raddatz, believe that the number is much higher.

A survey of the federal statistics authority in 2005, published June 2006, nearly doubled the 8 million number, to 15.3 million. The survey did not included religious affiliation. Thus the estimated absolute number of Muslims stayed the same. This implied halving the estimated percentage from 40 percent to 20 percent. This seems unrealistic, as immigration of Muslims never was lower than 40%, and their birthrate surely isn't lower than that of non-Muslim immigrants. Therefore, Raddatz uses the 40 percent to estimate an absolute number of about 6 million Muslims in Germany. Yet even this number, although based on logic, is also unverified. The only thing we definitely know about the number of Muslims in Germany is that we don't know it. Given the federal survey’s lack of interest in the number of immigrant Muslims, analysis of the costs of Muslim immigration is very difficult.

How did this happen? In the 1950s the Federal Republic of Germany started to hire foreign workers, the so called Gastarbeiter or guest workers. First they came from Southern European countries such as Italy. From the early 1960s on this recruitment was expanded to Muslim countries, especially Turkey, and also to North African countries. Turkey faced a rapidly growing, poorly educated rural class, whom the Government there wanted to export. The majority of Turkish guest workers immigrated at a time when there was no more labour shortage in Germany. In fact, unemployment slowly increased.

Nevertheless, there is a growing myth circulating that Turks built up post-war Germany, but most Turks only came became Germany's economy was already booming. The myths even imply that Turks brought development and culture to our country; for example, water toilets. Perhaps there is some classical Islamic mythologizing here, involving disdain for pre-or non-Islamic cultures or their technological achievements, and even to deny their very existence.

As the result of a massive German family reunion program -- frequently directed into the German welfare system -- a large Turkish community was rapidly established. In contrast to immigrants from Europe, its members withdrew into insular, parallel societies, especially in the big cities.

Additionally, there were refugees from troubled areas. While Turks make up the large majority of Muslims in Germany, substantial groups include Palestinians, often from Lebanon, and Muslims from former Jugoslavia. In summer 2006, the Federal Government announced, that some 3.000German citizens with a Lebanese background were to be evacuated from Lebanon. The German embassy in Beirut only knew about 1.000 German citizens. Finally we accepted 6.000 refugees from Lebanon. The Government didn't want to be too particular about passport controls for humanitarian reasons. How many of them were Hezbollah members, of course, is unknown. Once again, we find that official estimates about how many Muslims are in our country, to say nothing of important details, cannot be relied upon.

The problems caused by Muslim immigrants in Germany are the same as elsewhere. Perhaps at least in the beginning they might have been milder, as immigrants from Turkey had experience in a secular political system, compared to immigrants from more traditional Islamic countries. On the other hand kemalistic Turks cling to a very distinct nationalism, so that it is frequently difficult to separate nationalist Turkish demands from Islamic ones.

A few months ago the German parliament passed a new immigration law. It was not at all effective, but it least implied that people immigrating on behalf of family reunion laws -- which mostly means young imported wives -- have to be at least 18 years old and to know some 200 words of German. Not only Turkish and Islamic organizations in Germany protested and urged the Federal President, not to sign the law, but even Ankara tried to intervene.

In Germany there are currently 159 mosques, identifiable with cupola and minaret, 184 are beingbuilt. Additionally, there are some 2.600 less official-looking Muslim prayer houses. Many of them were or are being built by DITIB, a subsidiary organization of the Turkish government authority for religion, Diyanet. Diayenet also sends imams, who most often don't speak Germanand are replaced on a regular basis. Thus Islamization in Germany is not only a question of an ideology but consists increasingly of an intervention of a foreign State -- Turkey -- in national sovereignty. During the world soccer championship in 2006, Germany's biggest tabloid, BILD, published photos of young migrants waving a German flag with a Turkish white crescent in its red part. This was not criticized but praised as an example of successful integration. As in other countries, our media praises multiculturalism, whitewashes Islamist excesses, and demonizes critics of Islam as racists or at least blockheads.

Things used to be better. The first generation Muslim immigrants were more integrated than today's third generation. Today, many Muslim children don't speak any German when they start school. Immigrant youth often speak a strikingly rudimentary, grammatically simplified and generally incorrect German language, one that has even caught the attention of linguists. Poorlyeducated native German youths in Muslim quarters increasingly adopt this language maybe to avoid being seen as outsiders. Speaking such a language of course minimizes their chance for work.

Early in 2006 teachers of the Berlin Rütli school wrote a desperate open letter to the school authority, admitting that they had given up hope to cope with the increasing violence, especially by Arab youths, of whom even the slightly less violent Turkish youths are afraid, let alone German and other non-Islamic kids. They also complained that the migrants don't show any interest in studying or attending school at all, and that parents just don't care or even insult teachers. Especially female teachers were afraid of their students and didn't enter classroom without a cellphone, in order to be able to call for help. This caused some public debate for a while, yet proposals tended to blame society alone for the problem. The “solution” then was hire Islamic social workers in schools, since infidel social workers would not be respected by Muslim kids. Another “solution” was to improve cooperation with imams. Meanwhile, the police force in Germany’s biggest state, Nordrhein-Westfalen, is proceeding to reserve jobs for Muslims, whom they recruit in mosques. The establishment of exclusive Muslim police units is also debated, for better cooperation between the police and Muslim communities. When we define as an unreasonable demand that Muslims accept infidel police officers, we are starting to separate society into Islamic and non-Islamic enclaves.

But I think these are things that all of you know in your own countries. Therefore, I want to go into a subject which we thought was a German problem only, yet now seems more widespread, if not of equal intensity. This is the tactic of the promoters and defenders of Islamization, to conflate, what we might call, to deliberately mix up, critics of Islam and nazis. You all surely know the accusations such as "racism," "fascism, or "nazism" usually are hurled at people who criticize Islam or even question the Islamization of Europe or the Eurabia concept. This is done by politicians, the media, clerics, academia and ordinary people, as well.

As nazism is our own past, this is perhaps worse in Germany than elsewhere and surely it is more hurtful and intimidating. Sometimes this hysteria to see nazis anywhere -- except where their modern counterparts really are – is just grotesque. But for many people -- critics of Islams not excluded -- this doesn't come only from outside but from inside as well, as it is rooted in modern Germans: a mixture of guilt, shame and a fear that one might possibly mutate into a nazi without noticing it. This undermines the unity of the critics of Islam, causing us to distance ourselves from other people or groups, sometimes perhaps with good reason, yet probably most often, without.

Prospects, that a political party critical of Islamization and mass immigration of Muslims can be established in Germany or that the big conservative party, Chancellor Merkel's Christian Democrats, could develop in this direction, are poor. This is in part due to our national socialist past and the resulting fear of anything that could be considered xenophobic or nationalist or not sufficiently tolerant. It might as well result from a relatively widespread favorable opinion concerning the European Union. It also is conceivable that German fears of and dislike for any kind of nationalism influences the European Union.

In any case, there are some real neonazis. There is a tiny political party, whose agenda is revisionist and decisively anti-Israeli and anti-American and therefore pro- Ahmedinejad. Yet it is opposed to immigration (not only Muslim) and Mosque-building. The leaders of this party would perhaps like to cooperate with Islamistic organizations, and partly do so, but their ordinary members oppose it. Working with this party is out of the question for any reasonable and decent person. Its numbers and impact are both negligible, but the public is sensitive to its existence. Any of their positions which overlap with others undermines the others to the public.

The “nazi” smears come partly from cynics who seek to silence any critic of their multicultural and pro-Islamic dogma, as well as from some who are sincere about it. Therefore, it makes sense to speak the truth, especially about the historical connections between nazism and some Islamic authorities, as well as about their ideological similarity and compatibility, especially those concerning the hostility towards Israel and America - or put another way, Jews and devout Christians.

There are some 100.000 Jews living in Germany, most of them immigrants from the former Soviet Union and they are increasingly harassed, especially in public schools. This is horrific, appalling and sad. The harassments originate mainly from Islamic immigrants, but to be honest not only from them. Unfortunately, there is still some original anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism found within the native German population, though most often it is not open aggressive but rather, latent. People really do not want to be nazis, but unfortunately many have strange ideas about what a Nazi is really like. Information about these dark times, as told by leftists, is especially peculiar. It masks the socialist parts, overestimating the conservative parts, and treats anti-Semitism simply as some kind of xenophobia where Jews just were random victims as they were available, and could easily be replaced today by any other group -- such as Muslims. Those Muslims who do not deny the Holocaust -- and most Turkish Muslims don't – find this an easy-to-accept version of history. I think it is essential to never take for granted that the truth needs continuing affirmation. My co-authors and I on Politically Incorrect do so, regularly.

Many people feel a diffuse aversion towards some aspects of Islam, like the oppression of Muslim women, high crime rates, and dependence on welfare because of deliberate lack of education. There are a few prominent figures who speak out against Islamization, but none of them is a politician. There is former Federal President Roman Herzog, a former constitutional judge, who sharply criticized the antidemocratic European Union, but he was widely ignored. Most Germans support the European Union as a guarantor of peace in Europe, and perhaps as a way to give up an embarrassing nationality, trading changing German for European. There is hardly any knowledge among Germans about its antidemocratic and Eurabian aspects, so they tend to consider information about it as some odd conspiracy theory. To sum it up, there is only very little resistance against Islamization in Germany.

Therefore, the work that all of you doing to speak the truth is crucial to saving our societies. So, I want to take this opportunity to thank Ms Bat Ye'Or for her precious and great work on the subject. Unfortunately her important book Eurabia is still not available in German. I want to thank all the authors attending the conference for providing us with priceless information and knowledge, which is really helpful to Politically Incorrect and our efforts to inform honestly and to constitute some kind of counterbalance to the biased media.


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  • Name: Igor the Infidel
  • Date: Saturday January 19, 2008
  • Time: 07:58:39 -0700

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Fortunately, the USA, where I live, will never become Amerabia because Christianity is alive and well here, unlike in Europe where it is practically dead, its voice ignored and/or held in contempt. In its place E.U. radical secularism is proposed, but this worldview is NOT attractive to people who are looking for transcendent meaning. They'd rather have some form of religion that answers, or at least claims to answer, the REALLY BIG questions like, "Why am I here?" and "Is there life after death?" The E.U.'s practical atheism has no answers to such questions, so it can't compete with Islam's propositions. With no other serious rivals (Scientology is science fiction!) Islam will eventually triumph in Germany over the dying embers of Lutheranism, and the native Germans, the former Master Race, will become dhimmis in the new caliphate! "Welcome to Germabia, the land of pork free wienerschnitzel!"


  • Name: Dangers of Islam by Nigar Khan
  • Date: Monday January 21, 2008
  • Time: 00:23:05 -0700

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READ: http://akram.rediffiland.com/blogs/2007/10/06/Read-It-Translate-It-Forward.html (NOTE: PLEASE COPY & PASTE THE ABOVE ADDRESS CORRECTLY TO READ THE ARTICLE. IF NOT COPIED PROPERLY, THE ARTICLE MAY NOT SHOW UP.) (THIS IS THE TRAGIC HISTORY OF HOW WE WERE CONVERTED TO ISLAM. THIS IS THE WAY THE CRUEL CULT ISLAM DESTORYED OTHER RELIGIONS & CIVILIZATIONS IN MANY COUNTRIES & IS CONTINUING TO DO SO. THIS IS THE HIDDEN AGENDA OF ISLAM WHICH WANTS TO ISLAMIZE THE WHOLE WORLD. WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES FOR FOLLOWING ISLAM AS WE WERE NEVER MUSLIMS. AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO LEAVE ISLAM. – AKRAM & NIGAR KHAN.)


  • Name: Richard, a Christian
  • Date: Monday January 21, 2008
  • Time: 02:50:37 -0700

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I've only been put onto this site recently to discover about the evident progress of gradual Islamisation in England and France that I've read about so far, and now Germany. It is noteworthy that Islam appears to be being tolerated more and more by degrees by the secular governments, authorities and people of countries that used to be predominantly Christian. They have forgotten and given up on the One True Living God so they do not have an answer to Islam because they do not have a Christian profession or confession anymore. God is not in their hearts anymore. Christians are a small minority now even in countries once regarded as Christian.


  • Name: Richard a Christian
  • Date: Monday January 21, 2008
  • Time: 03:16:26 -0700

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I've recently been put onto this site and begun to learn about the Islamisation of England and European countries which used to be predominantly Christian, with a much stronger Christian consciousness than they have now. The governments and people of these countries generally are secular with the accepting, tolerant, attitude to multiculturalism while rejecting our historical Christian values - the West is rejecting Christianity largely. Meanwhile they see their contries being populated by Muslim and other immigrants which we tolerate as long as they are peaceable, but we don't realize that the Islamisation motive is at work and one day Islam may? will? predominate and want to rule the "tolerant" host country populations. We don't have an answer to Islam because we have forsaken our God and His word is not in our hearts and on our lips anymore.


  • Name: Help the Muslims leave Islam
  • Date: Monday January 21, 2008
  • Time: 05:19:59 -0700

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Islam as a religio-ideological system has to be differentiated Muslim people. Muslims are born into Islam they have no choice. Islam is a threat to world peace not only in Europe but to all non-Muslims. In Germany this is what must be done 1) Close down ALL mosques; Saudi Arabia does not allow any non-Islamic religions to be build in its country. 2) Stop all Muslim immigration. 3) Encourage Muslims to leave Islam 4) Maintain close relationship with Russia and Serbia,etc where they are very clear about being Christians 5) Reclaim back the Byzantine empire by chasing out the Islamists from Turkey 6) Must be single minded until all Islamists are out of not only Europe but only confined in Saudi Arabia. 7) The Europeans have a duty to win back North Africa from the Islamists. You have the knowledge and the power, only the will is lacking.


  • Name: Igor the Infidel
  • Date: Monday January 21, 2008
  • Time: 06:55:47 -0700

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It needs to be said that the reason why Europe has needed to import labor, mostly Muslim, is because the natives have contracepted/aborted themselves to the point of extinction. Muslims, on the other hand, are generally pro-life on abortion and also believe in having large families. The inevitable demographic truth is that Europe is becoming Muslim by default. Formerly Christian Europe is committing cultural suicide, with only itself to blame (or thank, depending on how self-loathingly twisted the perspective is)


  • Name: Gaby
  • Date: Tuesday January 22, 2008
  • Time: 13:49:35 -0700

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It's a shame that Germans continue to suffer from the holocaust guilt that they became too lenient with Muslims now.


  • Name: schumie
  • Date: Saturday January 26, 2008
  • Time: 08:23:38 -0700

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nothing new. now we fear our own shadow because when we colonialized these people we make them slaves and take the profit to europe to develop our western country.


  • Name:
  • Date: Sunday January 27, 2008
  • Time: 12:59:01 -0700

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WE MUSLIMS WILL TAKE OVER EUROPE! START CRYING!


  • Name: Igor the Infidel's Grandfather
  • Date: Tuesday February 26, 2008
  • Time: 20:42:03 -0700

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Keep your filthy depreciating US dollar and shove it in your mouth. I hope one day the Latino's in America will kick all the bad white assess in America. Opss.....they already did!


  • Name: Islam in Singapore
  • Date: Tuesday February 26, 2008
  • Time: 21:20:12 -0700

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How can Islam be a threat when Muslims in Singapore are so peaceful and an integral part of the country and the Singapore society? Ever thought of that? It's not Islam which is the problem in Europe. It's often a cultural and education problem. Try asking a German villager from the alps to try integrate himself to an Arabian lifestyle in the modern city of Dubai! Alternatively ask a Skinhead from the former DDR to try living it out in Oman! Most of these immigrants are often peasants and simple people. Their children are often brought up in that simple minded way too. They are exactly like those Americans who lives in the countryside and were never able to get out of town since high school. Don't be an ignorant Haselnuss people. Do not promote hatred and extremism of your own kind.


  • Name: Ammar A.
  • Date: Monday April 21, 2008
  • Time: 18:05:46 -0700

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I think the media is showing and manipulating with the audiences' brains by showing a bloody side for all the muslims around the world! We do not live in tents or ride camels.. I don't eat falafel at all.. and i dont carry a bomb to my university. i dont really want to kill every non-muslim i see or meet. I am no terrorest. and by the way :) christians are choosing to convert into Islam, no one is forcing them! they read! they educate themselves and they convert.


  • Name: Israf'eel
  • Date: Saturday July 26, 2008
  • Time: 11:48:27 -0700

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Deliberate lies about Islam are from the devil. Peace, and One Creator, no war, and harmony is what Islam offers.


  • Name: Israfeel
  • Date: Saturday July 26, 2008
  • Time: 11:59:22 -0700

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Islam is about peace and love. Read the Quran, it is translated in many languages, English, German, etc. It is derived from the original Arabic scripts revealed directly through Allah (or God) by the angel Gabreel, to the prophet Muhammad. Messenger or prophet Muhammad did not know how to read or write and not many did back then. Also, all God wants is to believe in the one true unseen God and is the most merciful of those that have mercy. So read the Quran with a clear mind and all of it (must be in book format, and have accompanying arabic to indicate that it is a complete translation and the actual Quran). Only from the Quran will you find the truth about peace. Islam only had wars for self defense purposes, and don't confuse these aspects, they are relative to the time while many other messages are timeless and guidance. Islam is of peace, and no one should feel threatened. No one forces any Christian or Jew or of any other religion to convert to Islam. They seek the true God and He helps them. Islam believes in all the holy messengers including Jesus, Moses, Solomon, etc. and the last of the messengers Muhammad, may peace be upon him, and all of them. Islam only accepts one God, and these messengers are not related to God. There is only one God. All I can say is a kind word, even if you should be angry, anger is not good. You are only being invited to peace, and no one is asking for any money or reward, except that Allah (or God), may provide.


  • Name: reza santorini
  • Date: Sunday September 21, 2008
  • Time: 16:18:24 -0700

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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ After reading this site and the various explanations about Islam, I went to the above site and read of some myths about Islam and the latest on some activity in the Muslim world. Thus I find the explanation of peace and love as part of the religion quite difficult to understand.


  • Name: Martin the Atheist
  • Date: Thursday October 02, 2008
  • Time: 18:44:55 -0700

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I am 48 years old, living in Toronto Canada, college educated and usually very curious and intelligent and love to read interesting articles like this one and scores more around the internet. Religious history is my favourite topic. Some of the items I have read, definitely need to be taken with a grain of salt however one general theme trumpeted around the world right now that everyone should sit up and take notice is the aggressive, proactive and sinister spread of Islam. This "religion" adhores a vacuum and as an atheist I would be strung up and whipped until I proclaimed my love for Allah, Christians usually just ignore me. I won't have someone forcing me to follow one god or another because I'm happy with my secularism. Islamic forces will not rest until everyone is brought into their way of life. After living in the Schwartzwald area of Germany for 3 years, I have come to love everything about Germany especially the people. Germans are wonderful, friendly and engaging that work very hard and enjoy themselves immensely, their outgoing manner is so infectious, the people that I had the pleasure of being around are just so much fun. This article mentioned that most Germans are worried about speaking out because they don't want to be mistaken for nazis. That is really sad to me, I feel Germany should be nationalistic, they should do all they can to preserve the industrious and proud nature and remember their roots, because they deserve it. Islam is the world's worst version of nazism and facism and it scares the hell out of me.


  • Name: Martin the Atheist
  • Date: Thursday October 02, 2008
  • Time: 19:58:07 -0700

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I have been to numerous websites where there were warnings and experiences related about Islam in Europe and the world at large. Many different posts and reports of Islamic aggression and subversion have all had the same general theme, extreme islamists want to rule to world. The almighty "priest" or iman speaks and teaches in a million mosques seen on TV and on the internet and they fill young minds with hate and purpose. It happens in the Palistinian camps as well. The key to life on THIS world is to try to live in peace and in harmony with nature, harming or converting people is not something I would do and I don't want people doing it to me. Leave me alone to do what I want and I will do the same with you.


  • Name: x muslim
  • Date: Monday December 01, 2008
  • Time: 05:24:54 -0500

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islam is 100 percent evil read prophet muhammed live he was devil walking on earth


 
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