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Colonialism: What about Reparations from Muslims?

In early September 2008, demands were made that France must make reparations for its colonial past in Algeria. The calls followed the signing between Italy and Libya of a 5 billion dollar investment agreement to resolve colonial-era disputes. The 25-year deal includes the construction of a highway running between Egypt and Tunisia and the return to Libya of a prized ancient marble statue taken to Rome in colonial times.
The settlement was a "complete and moral acknowledgement of the damage inflicted on Libya by Italy during the colonial period," said Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. "Italy committed historic errors in Libya, and the Italian government's move to apologise is positive," secretary of Algeria's National Liberation Front (FLN) party, Al-Said Abu Haja, told Algerian daily El-Khabar.

The FLN led the war of independence from France between 1954 and 1962. "We hope that the European Union will be able to put pressure on other former colonial powers such as France and get it to make amends for what it did in Algeria," Haja added. "Algeria asked for France to apologise long before Libya [asked Italy]. The French occupied us for 130 years."

I'm not an expert on French colonial history, but if I recall correctly, the French were at least partly motivated for establishing themselves in Algeria due to the Barbary pirates, who continued their evil activities well into the nineteenth century. The period of French colonial rule is the only period of civilization Algeria has experienced since the Romans.

Muslims have been raiding Europe, especially the southern regions but sometimes even north of the Alps, continuously since the seventh century. In fact, the only period during more than 1300 years they haven't done this was during the time of European colonialism. That's what they are whining about now. This is compensation for lost jizya. Moreover, there are now more North Africans in France than there ever were Frenchmen in North Africa. If non-Europeans can resist colonization and expel intruders, why can't Europeans do the same thing?

I'm not even going to mention the Spanish and the Portuguese, who were under colonial rule much longer than were the Algerians. As Ibn Warraq says in his book Defending the West:

"Where the French presence lasted fewer than four years before they were ignominiously expelled by the British and Turks, the Ottomans had been the masters of Egypt since 1517, a total of 280 years. Even if we count the later British and French protectorates, Egypt was under Western control for sixty-seven years, Syria for twenty-one years, and Iraq for only fifteen – and, of course, Saudi Arabia was never under Western control.

Contrast this with southern Spain, which was under the Muslim yoke for 781 years, Greece for 381 years, and the splendid new Christian capital that eclipsed Rome – Byzantium – which is still in Muslim hands. But no Spanish or Greek politics of victimhood apparently exist."

From their strongholds in the Iberian Peninsula and elsewhere, Muslims raided the Mediterranean for centuries. Here is Timothy Gregory in A History of Byzantium:

"In 826/8 Crete was taken by Arab adventurers from Spain, and in 827/9 Spanish Arabs were able to establish footholds in Sicily. The Arab presence on these two islands was to have serious repercussions for Byzantium. Crete became a base for Arab 'pirates' who made the Aegean and its shorelines unsafe for the Byzantines and presumably also disrupted trade in the area.

The Arab bases on Sicily were the beginning of a long contest between Byzantines and Arabs for control of southern Italy and Sicily that was also to involve the papacy and, eventually, other powers from Western Europe. The Arabs also used these Sicilian bases to raid Italy and the Balkans."

The reason why the Vatican became a "city within the city" in Rome with fortifications was due to repeated attacks by Muslims (Saracens). Here are a couple of quotes from the book Rome: Art & Architecture, edited by Marco Bussagli:

"Leo IV's major building project is generally considered to be the fortification of the Vatican area. After the devastation wrought by the Saracens in St. Peter's, profoundly shocking to the Christian world, it was decided to fortify the area around St. Peter's tomb. Leo III had already made this decision, but little had been done because of the theft of the materials set aside for the job. Leo IV, who had already undertaken the repair of the Aurelian walls, gates, and towers, organized the work in such a way that within four years he saw it complete.

On June 27, 852 the ceremony of consecration of the walls was performed, in the presence of the pope and clergy, who, barefoot and with heads smeared with ashes, processed round the entire circuit of the fortifications, sprinkling them with holy water and at every gate calling on divine protection against the enemy that threatened the inhabitants. The enclosed area was to take on the status of a city in its own right, which was both separate and distinct from the Urbe of Rome, despite its proximity to it."

"Despite defeat in 849 and 916 in the coastal cities of Naples, Gaeta, and Amalfi, the Saracens continued to lay waste to the countryside and sack the outskirts of Rome, causing the already precarious living conditions of the urban population to deteriorate still further. In the face of this continuing external threat, not only was the Vatican area fortified, but the churches of San Sebastiano on the Appian Way Sant'Agnese on Via Nomentana, and San Lorenzo on Via Tiburtina were strengthened."

Muslims complain because they want the good, old days of jizya payments back. Here is what the Iranian ex-Muslim Ali Sina says in his recent book Understanding Muhammad: "Megalomania, bullishness, the sense of entitlement and all other narcissistic traits of Muhammad are present in each and every Muslim, to the extent that they emulate their prophet.

From king to pauper, from president to janitor, Muslims consider themselves to be superior to the rest of humanity. They are convinced that one day Islam will dominate, mankind will submit to them, and they will be the masters of the world. This feeling of self importance was expressed eloquently by Dr. Mahatir, the outgoing Prime Minister of Malaysia during an OIC (Organization of Islamic Conference) summit in 2003.

He acknowledged that the early Muslims built their 'civilization' by studying the works of the Greeks and other scholars before Islam and then boastfully added that the 'Europeans had to kneel at the feet of Muslim scholars in order to access their own scholastic heritage.' In his speech he invited the Muslims to amass 'guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships' to subdue that non-Muslim detractors and again rule over them."

Those who were hit the hardest were the Balkan populations. The Balkans, with its close connections to Byzantium, was a reasonably sophisticated region of Europe in medieval times, until the Ottomans Turks devastated much of the area. One of the most appalling aspects of this was the practice of devshirme, the collecting of boys among the Christian minorities who were forcibly converted to Islam and taught to hate their own kin.

Dr. Andrew G. Bostom, author of the books The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism and The Legacy of Jihad, quotes the work of scholar Vasiliki Papoulia, who highlights the continuous desperate struggle of the Christian populations against this forcefully imposed Ottoman levy:

"It is obvious that the population strongly resented...this measure [and the levy] could be carried out only by force. Those who refused to surrender their sons— the healthiest, the handsomest and the most intelligent— were on the spot put to death by hanging. Nevertheless we have examples of armed resistance. In 1565 a revolt took place in Epirus and Albania.

The inhabitants killed the recruiting officers and the revolt was put down only after the sultan sent five hundred janissaries in support of the local sanjak—bey. We are better informed, thanks to the historic archives of Yerroia, about the uprising in Naousa in 1705 where the inhabitants killed the Silahdar Ahmed Celebi and his assistants and fled to the mountains as rebels. Some of them were later arrested and put to death."

The Christian subjects tried for centuries to combat this evil practice:

"Since there was no possibility of escaping [the levy] the population resorted to several subterfuges. Some left their villages and fled to certain cities which enjoyed exemption from the child levy or migrated to Venetian—held territories. The result was a depopulation of the countryside. Others had their children marry at an early age...Nicephorus Angelus...states that at times the children ran away on their own initiative, but when they heard that the authorities had arrested their parents and were torturing them to death, returned and gave themselves up.

La Giulletiere cites the case of a young Athenian who returned from hiding in order to save his father's life and then chose to die himself rather than abjure his faith. According to the evidence in Turkish sources, some parents even succeeded in abducting their children after they had been recruited. The most successful way of escaping recruitment was through bribery. That the latter was very widespread is evident from the large amounts of money confiscated by the sultan from corrupt...officials."

Lee Harris in his book The Suicide of Reason describes how this practice of devshirme, the process of culling the best, brightest and fittest "alpha boys," targeted the non-Muslim subject populations: "The bodyguard of Janissaries 'had the task of protecting the sovereign from internal and external enemies,' writes scholar Vasiliki Papoulia. 'In order to fulfill this task it was subjected to very rigorous and special training, the janissary education famous in Ottoman society.

This training made possible the spiritual transformation of Christian children into ardent fighters for the glory of the sultan and their newly acquired Islamic faith.' Because the Christian boys had to be transformed into single-minded fanatics, it was not enough that they simply inherit their position.

They had to be brainwashed into it, as we would say today, and this could be done most effectively with boys who had been completely cut off from all family ties. By taking the boys from their homes, and transporting them to virtually another world, devçirme assured that there would be no conflict of loyalties between family and duty to the empire. All loyalty would be focused on the group itself and on the sultan."

This practice drained the strength of the Christian populations. Harris again:

"The culling of these alpha boys had two effects, both of them good for the Ottoman Empire, both bad for the subject population. By filling the critical posts in the Ottoman Empire with boys who had been selected on the basis of their intrinsic merit, and not on their family connection, the Empire was automatically creating a meritocracy – if a boy was tough, courageous, intelligent, and fanatically loyal, he was able to work his way up the Ottoman hierarchy; indeed, as we have seen, he become a member of the ruling elite, despite having the formal title of being the sultan's slave.

The Ottoman Empire was both strengthening itself through acquiring these alpha boys, and weakening its subject population by taking their best and brightest. Thanks to the institution of devçirme, the more 'fit' Christian boys who would be most likely to be the agents of rebellion against the Empire become the fanatical Muslim warriors who were used to suppress whatever troubles the less 'fit' Christian boys left behind were able to cause."

Raphael Israeli in his 2008 book The Islamic Challenge in Europe tracks the Islamization of various European countries, from Switzerland to Britain, and describes the efforts to recreate the Ottoman Empire and use the Balkans as a launching pad for Jihad:

"After the fall of Communism in the new regime recognized, in 1991, the self-declared Republic of Kosovo, and its head, Ibrahim Rugova, opened an office in Tirana. The disintegration of Yugoslavia by necessity revived the old dreams of the Greater Albania, which now eyed not only Kosovo, but also parts of Macedonia, Greece, Serbia, and Montenegro where an Albanian population had settled over the years. The rising of Muslim consciousness in the Balkans, after the Bosnian precedent…now acts as a catalyst to draw together, under the combined banners of Greater Albania and Islam, all the Albanian populations of that region.

In 1992 joined the Conference of Islamic Countries, and it has been working to attract support by other Islamic countries to the Greater Albania plan, actually presenting itself as 'the shield of Islam' in the Balkans. It has been noted that while the Albanian demographic explosion in Kosovo, which has allowed them to predominate and demand secession, has not taken place in Albania itself, perhaps an indication, as in Palestine and Bosnia, that the 'battle of the womb' heralded by nationalists and Muslim fundamentalists, is not merely a natural growth but may be also politically motivated."

Now that the entire Western world is under attack by Islamic Jihad, we would do well to listen to those who know the frontlines, such as Serge Trifkovic in his book Defeating Jihad.

The wars in the Balkans all the way into the 21st century are a direct result of the legacy of Turkish Muslim brutality. So why does nobody demand that the Turks apologize in public for their massacres? They should pay reparations to their former subjects, starting with the Armenians, who suffered a Jihad less than a century ago, and continuing with the Serbs, the Bulgarians, the Greeks, the Croatians and others who have suffered hundreds of years of abuse and exploitation at their hands.

We can continue with all those European countries that have suffered attacks and enslavement by North African Barbary pirates for more than a thousand years. These nations should now demand public apologies and substantial financial reparations from Arabs and Turks.

If these countries lack the funds to pay, we should hold the Islamic world collectively responsible and demand compensation from the rich members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference such as Saudi Arabia. While we are at it, why not demand compensation to all victims of Jihad, from the Jews who have been expelled from the Middle East to the Indians, who have died in the tens of millions for a thousand years or more?

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Fjordman is based in Norway. He contributes in Brussels Journal, Gates of Vienna and Faith Freedom International amongst other Websites. His personal blog (currently inactive).


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Name: Ananda
Date: Sunday September 07, 2008
Time: 10:34:00 -0700

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We know the barbarisms & horrors of Muslims but we let Kosovo happen, that is disgraceful. We must not let Chechnya & Kashmir happen. I stand solidly behind Russia, they are doing a better job in this respect.


Name: Truth Seeker
Date: Sunday September 07, 2008
Time: 11:41:08 -0700

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"If these countries lack the funds to pay, we should hold the Islamic world collectively responsible and demand compensation from the rich members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference such as Saudi Arabia." The problem is that the Western idiots do not see any wrong in what Muslims had done to their ancestors. Consequently, they do not think that Muslims had committed any atrocities on the Jews, Christians and Hindus etc., during their rule over them. This prevents the West from claiming compensations from Muslims; on the contrary, they are willing to pay them (Muslims) compensations for the alleged misdeeds of their forefathers. I am glad you have raised this issue now, and hope the West will learn from it and do what you have suggeested in your write up. Thanks for it.


Name: What Islam is about
Date: Sunday September 07, 2008
Time: 11:58:21 -0700

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According to the very first surah "revealed" to the world humans are made from clot (surah 96). Because this is definetly wrong, we can conclude that quran and islam are lying from the very beginning, from the very first days of islam! Thus, Islam itself turns out to be nothing but a big lie!


Name: Re: What Islam is about
Date: Sunday September 07, 2008
Time: 12:00:07 -0700

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Sounds very promising your approach. Why should god decide to "reveal" us in his very first "revealation" to us, that we, his own creature, are made from clot while this is definetely not the case? This makes no sense at all. The only possible conclusion is that the quran and all the islam is nothing but bogus and fake!


Name: Click and find out!!!
Date: Sunday September 07, 2008
Time: 13:14:11 -0700

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Name: Truth Seeker
Date: Sunday September 07, 2008
Time: 14:37:28 -0700

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"According to the very first surah "revealed" to the world humans are made from clot (surah 96)." Allah also claimed in the Quran that He creates humans with a drop of semen or sperm. Is it scientifically correct? No, no way! Even Allah or His Father cannot create any human or animal just with semen or sperm. He needs female eggs and there is no mention of it in the entire Quran! Does it make the Quran a book of science or is Allah as knowledgeable as He claims to be? Rubbish to say the least!


Name: Christian
Date: Sunday September 07, 2008
Time: 17:08:36 -0700

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The Chinese invented everything first. The decision of the Ottomans not to allow the printing press for a couple of hundred years probably insured the decline of the muslim culture.


Name: Ananda
Date: Sunday September 07, 2008
Time: 21:45:34 -0700

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How long will oil rule the world energy? With recent discoveries of huge amounts of natural gas in USA, and increasing use of wind energy & nuclear energy, World's independence from Arab oil could be in five years. We will be back to the pre-oil-dominance days when Muslims kissed the feet of Europe. What a relief that would be.


Name: vbv
Date: Monday September 08, 2008
Time: 00:40:02 -0700

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If India were to ask for reparations for all the destruction and loss of 80 million Indians thoughout its 800 years of despotic and bloody reign, all the oil in Saudi Arabia will not be enough to compensate us ! These zombies are all selfcentred,selfish and greedy thieving bastards who do not value any human life other than their own!


Name: DEAD ANIMAL EATER GOAT BEARDED PIG AKTHER AND PIG MUSLIMS MUST PAY TO KAFIRS NOW
Date: Monday September 08, 2008
Time: 00:54:30 -0700

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DEAD ANIMAL EATER GOAT BEARDED PIG AKTHER AND PIG MUSLIMS MUST PAY TO KAFIRS NOW.ALSO,AS PER TRUE ISLAM MUSLIMS INVENTED THE PRINTING PRESS FIRST THEN SENT IT TO CHINA WHO SENT IT TO THE WORLD,AND THEN AGAIN ISLAM TOOK IT BACK.ISLAM IS REALY GREAT...IN THE PIG SHIT AND CAMEL DUNG.


Name: Mo.B.Dick
Date: Monday September 08, 2008
Time: 03:41:54 -0700

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People must be wondering,how Allah created man. Allah actually masterbated on hi palm and said:Qull: and the man appeared and that is according to Muslims and Mohahammads idea.IGNORANCE THY NAME IS ISLAM.MUSLIMS HAVE PENIS IN THEIR BRAINS, BRAIN BETWEEN THEIR LEGS AND VIOLENCE IN THEIR HANDS.


Name: Kunta
Date: Monday September 08, 2008
Time: 04:54:15 -0700

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WHO EVER SAYS,GIVE MUSLIMS THE MAJORITY ANYWHERE AROUND THE WORLD AND YOU WILL HAVE OPPRESSION ARE ALWAYS WRONG, BEACAUSE 5-32 Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing Oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land! 16- 41 And as for those who emigrated for the Cause of Allah, after suffering Oppression, We will certainly give them goodly residence in this world, but indeed the reward of the Hereafter will be greater, if they but knew! 30-41 Evil (sins and disobedience of Allah, etc.) has appeared on land and sea because of what the hands of men have earned (by Oppression and evil deeds, etc.), that Allah may make them taste a part of that which they have done, in order that they may return (by repenting to Allah, and begging His Pardon) AND ISLAM DOES NOT SUPPRESS Women 4-19 O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit Women against their will, and you should not treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the Mahr you have given them. And live with them honourably. If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allah brings through it a great deal of good. 24-23 Verily, those who accuse chaste Women, who never even think of anything touching their chastity and are good believers, are cursed in this life and in the Hereafter, and for them will be a great torment. 85-10 Verily, those who put into trial the believing men and believing Women (by torturing them and burning them), and then do not turn in repentance, (to Allah), will have the torment of Hell, and they will have the punishment of the burning Fire. , ISLAM DOES NOT REOGNIZE TYRANNY OF ANY FORM AS WELL AS TYRANNY AGAINST NON-MUSLIMS AND DOES NOT REOGNIZE VIOLENCE FOR A TRUE MUSLIM BUT RECOGNIZES THAT MUSLIMS CAN GET ALONG WITH NON-MUSLIMS 17-33 And do not kill anyone which Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause. And whoever is killed (intentionally with hostility and oppression and not by mistake), We have given his heir the authority [(to demand Qisas, Law of Equality in Punishment or to forgive, or to take Diya (blood money)]. But let him not exceed limits in the matter of taking life (i.e he should not kill except the killer only). Verily, he is helped (by the Islamic law). FOR THE QURAN DEOS NOT TEACH THAT ISLAM MUST DOMINATE THE WORLD! It teaches that, the world to be dominated by truthfulness and righteousness 39-19 Is, then one against whom the Word of Punishment justified (equal to the one who avoids evil). Will you (O Muhammad SAW) rescue him who is in the Fire? 7 -81"Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of Women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)."


Name: balam to kunta
Date: Monday September 08, 2008
Time: 06:16:37 -0700

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The credit does not go to allah or Mohammad,What God told the Jewish people,the true followers of the true God.Hence 5:32 is irrelevent as far as Quran is cocerned.Mohammad uttered statement according to situations and the Muslims believe it to be revelations.It was possible but only from the DEMONIC SPIRIT that tormented him.Mohammad was accursed by God for being an ANTI-CHRIST,who tried to present himself above KING OF KINGS.Mohammad was actually mad .He suffered from a lot of mental illnesses ,starting with EPILEPSY,which was associated with evil spirits.He was a pagan pervert paediphile innovator of a pagan ideology for the pagan people.It is in fact a a political system to satisfy Mohammad lust for power and women and brutality.Sadly he has deceived billions of people through deception.May he rot in hell till eternity.


Name: antimod
Date: Monday September 08, 2008
Time: 06:29:46 -0700

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The writer forgot mentioning India colonised by mughals, turks, arabs and and other nondescript muslims. Muslims have no right to say anything about the past colonisers. India is still carrying on the burden of all these colonisers, muslim and christian.


Name: antimod
Date: Monday September 08, 2008
Time: 06:29:53 -0700

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The writer forgot mentioning India colonised by mughals, turks, arabs and and other nondescript muslims. Muslims have no right to say anything about the past colonisers. India is still carrying on the burden of all these colonisers, muslim and christian.


Name: to Kunta
Date: Monday September 08, 2008
Time: 12:46:52 -0700

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Your Islamic message would go well in Mosques, but not at this site. People here are experts on Allah, Muhammad, and Muslims. You, of course, love this Sura -->Allah has purchased from those who acknowledge their very lives and their wealth; that they will have paradise. They fight in the cause of god so they kill and are killed. A promise that is true upon him in the torah, the injeel and the quran. Whoever fulfills his pledge to god, then have good news of the deal which you concluded with. Such is the supreme success [9:111].(sura 9:111 is the most evil, depraved, teaching of Quran, but there are plenty others nearly as evil)--> Another sura I am sure you love (Quran 65.4 allows Muslims marry (and divorce) little girls who have not yet reached menstruation age.)--> Quran 65:4: and those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'iddah (waiting period for divorce), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. They are still immature) their 'iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens) (give birth) and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to him, he will make his matter easy for him.


Name: Cindy Lopez
Date: Tuesday September 09, 2008
Time: 19:46:05 -0700

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Its funny without any understanding of Islam, people believe what the media and Ignorant people say. But question what the QURAN says.


Name: TO KUNTA/LOPEZ
Date: Tuesday September 09, 2008
Time: 21:05:28 -0700

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WRONG AGAIN SIR! YOU COMMENTS ARE MAKING YOU LOOK LIKE A JACKASS! 1)ISLAM DOES SUPPRESS WOMEN!a)FORCES THEM TO WEAR A BURKA b)ALLOWS THEIR HUSBANDS TO BEAT THEM IF THEY "FEAR" REBELLION(sura 4:34). c)Makes their testimony one-half that a man's(sura 4:11). d)Mohammed himself called women "a toy." e)Razi(a noted muslim commentator):"The male is mentioned first in Q. 4:11 because the male is better than the female."f)Ibn Kathir(another noted commentator)"Men are superior to women, and a man is better than a woman."g)Another muslim commentator,"Sexual intercourse is an act and the woman does not act."h)"The prophet once said to woman:'Watch how you treat your husband for he is your Paradise and your Hell."(Ssuyuti).i)"Had I ordered anybody to prostrate before any one, I would have ordered women to prostrate before their husbands..."(Mohammed, hadith no. 70).j)"When a woman comes she comes in the form of a devil"(hadith 3240)k)"The Prophet said:'I have not left any calamity[fitnah] after me more detrimental to men than women."(hadith no. 33).l)"THE HUSBAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PREVENT HIS WIFE FROM LOOKING AFTER AND BREAST FEEDING HER BABY, FROM HER PREVIOUS HUSBAND,(if she was living in the husband's house),because that will make her too busy to attend to the husband, and it will affect her beauty and cleanliness, ALL THESE ARE THE RIGHTS OF THE HUSBAND ALONE."(Hanafites)('Abd ar-Rahman al-Gaziri, al-Fiqh 'ala al-Mazahib al-Arba'a, Dar al-Kutub al-'Elmeyah, 1990, vol. 4, p. 488).m)Does the wife have the right to confine her husband to his room as long as she wants?No, doesn't work that way does it? TO LOPEZ:If you want to know what Islam(Mohammed, hadiths, commentators, scholars say about women, you can buy the booklet:Women in Islam-The Place of Women in Pure Islam.c/o VOM P.O. Box 443 Bartlesville, OK 74005.


Name: I am right sir, Muslims give women the freedom
Date: Wednesday September 10, 2008
Time: 06:41:24 -0700

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.Covering the beauty of a women is becuase first it was told them by Allah (God), and secondly its the perfect thing to do. Muslim women's whole body might be covered but underneath there is a mind and a strong spirit and is also sign of modesty and humility. Whats underneath the cloaks are saved for one man, if you need yours you need to get married so your wife can save it for you too. Banning the head scarf is like telling the Catholic nuns to stop wearing the scarf imitating Muslims. Mary, Mother the of Jesus (Peace be upon both of them) is also sign of modesty and humility. As they could not discriminate directly against the Muslims due to the fear the European Court of human rights may go against them this is why they included the Jewish symbol and the big Cross worn by the Jews and Christians. However, a small Cross could be worn. They still believe in the policy of assimilation and integration introduced by the French colonialists. Now the Muslims are so many in France the only way to control them is by introducing this kind of draconian law directly or indirectly infringing the basic human rights of Muslim sisters who live in France, which is very unfortunate. Not any other European Nation has introduced this kind of measure infringing the basic rights of people. Another sort of control to expel Muslims in Europe and the Americas are to Brand them as terrorist. By bombs, exploding in the west religious wars will begin and and People will hate Muslims as they will be linked to Terrorism. As if no other terrorist live in this world Today. The present day leader of France is a Jew. Can a Muslim be elected as a leader in a country in Europe? So is that what we call freedom? 4.34-Men are the protectors and maintainers of Women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous Women are devoutly obedient (to Allah and to their husbands), and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.). As to those Women on whose part you see ill¬conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.


Name: To: Dear Editor
Date: Wednesday September 10, 2008
Time: 18:47:30 -0700

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Please ban entry like this : "http://truereligiondebate.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/mind-blowing-prophecies-about-prophet-muhamm". As you have said, ban the IP address.


Name: ha ha ha .....
Date: Wednesday September 10, 2008
Time: 18:53:35 -0700

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"Covering the beauty of a women is becuase first it was told them by Allah (God), and secondly its the perfect thing to do." W


Name: ha ha ha .....
Date: Wednesday September 10, 2008
Time: 18:58:12 -0700

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"Covering the beauty of a women is becuase first it was told them by Allah (God), and secondly its the perfect thing to do." WHAT IS THE USE OF ALLAH MAKES A WOMAN WITH BEAUTY THEN? I BELIEVE IT CAME FROM MOHAMMAD WHO WAS JEALOUS CONSIDERING HIS WIVES' BEAUTY COULD BE SEEN BY OTHER MEN. SECONDLY, ALLAH WAS THE OTHER PERSONIFICATION OF MOHAMMAD. PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN MOHAMMAD AND HIS TEACHING, IS DUMBER THAN A MULE, HA HA HA .....


Name: TO ha ha ha ..... HE WHO LAUGHS LAST, LAUGHS BEST
Date: Wednesday September 10, 2008
Time: 19:32:54 -0700

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Muslim women's whole body might be covered but underneath there is a mind and a strong spirit and is also sign of modesty and humility. WHATS UNDERNEATH THE CLOAKS ARE SAVED FOR ONE MAN. IF YOU NEED YOURS YOU NEED TO GET MARRIED SO YOUR WIFE CAN SAVE IT FOR YOU TOO. :) THEN AGAIN, BEAUTY IS ONLY SKIN DEEP :)


Name: "The perfect thing to do?"WOMEN READ THIS!!!!!!!
Date: Wednesday September 10, 2008
Time: 20:51:52 -0700

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MAKING a woman to wear the burka is NOT THE PURFECT THING TO DO! IT IS THE SUPRESSION OF WOMEN! WHY NOT MAKE THE MAN WEAR A BURKA?! ISLAM IS NOTHING ELSE BUT A CHEUVANISTIC MAN'S RELIGION AND A WOMAN'S NIGHTMARE!(woman who was a muslim compared being in islam to being a slave!). 2)Mohammed's calling woman "a toy" is the perfect thing to do? 3)Woman's testimony is one-half that a man's(sura 4:11), that is the "perfect thing to do?" 4)Beating your wife if you FEAR rebellion(sura 4:34) is the "perfect thing to do?"5)Confining your wife to her room is "the perfect thing to do?" 6)Since a woman is "a toy"(non-prophet) mohammed, you can do anything to her. Even throw gasoline on her and call it "an honor killing", is the "perfect thing to do?"-she IS a "toy" after all and "toys" have no rights or feelings!7)ALLOWING THE HUSBAND TO PREVENT HER FROM TAKING CARE OF HER BABY FROM ANOTHER MARRIAGE IF YOU WANT IS "THE PERFECT THING TO DO?!" DOES SHE GET TO BEAT HIM IF SHE "FEARS REBELLION" OR CONFINE HIM TO HIS ROOM IF SHE "FEARS REBELLION?" DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY DOES IT?! TRUTH IS, ISLAM IS THE WORST RELIGION IN THE WORLD TO WOMEN AND YOU KNOW IT! THOUSANDS OF WESTERN WOMEN ARE NOW TRAPPED IN THE MID-EAST FOR THEY HAVE ONLY ONE-HALF A MAN'S RIGHTS IN ISLAM! A MAN CAN HAVE FOUR WIVES. SHE CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN ONE! ISLAM TEACHES THAT WOMEN OUTNUMBER MEN IN HELL-THAT IS THE "PERFECT THING TO DO?" MUSLIM MEN, YOU WEAR A BURKA FOR TWO WEEKS AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT! LET YOUR WOMEN GO AROUND IN 120 DEGREE WEATHER WITH SHORT-SLEEVED SHIRTS AND YOU GO AROUND WITH A BURKA FOR IT WILL HIDE YOUR "HANDSOMENESS." THE REASON MOHAMMED HAD WOMEN WEAR A BURKA IS BECAUSE HE HAD NO SENSE OF SELF-CONTROL AT ALL! MARRYING A 6 YEAR OLD GIRL IS "THE PERFECT THING TO DO?"


Name: 3 continents not yet affected by islamist terrorism!EVERYONE READ THIS!
Date: Wednesday September 10, 2008
Time: 21:48:32 -0700

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TO THE MUSLIM WHO DEFENDED ACTS OF TERROR WHENEVER IT IS AN ALLY OF THE US: 1)I HOPE EVERYONE IS READING THIS! THIS MUSLIM MAKES JUSTIFICATION FOR ACTS OF TERROR IN ANY COUNTRY WHERE IT IS A FRIEND TO THE US! THIS ALSO JUSTIFIES THE MUSLIM CLERIC WHO DEFENDS THE GANG-RAPES OF NON-MUSLIM WOMEN IN SWEDEN AND NORWAY BY MUSLIM MEN?! 2)YOU SAID MUSLIMS HAVE NOT ATTACKED SOUTH AMERICA! FALSE! THERE HAVE BEEN RECENTLY AT LEAST THREE TERRORIST ATTACKS BY MUSLIMS DOWN THERE. 3)SO, IT LOOKS LIKE THE NORTH POLE, GREENLAND, AND ANTARCTICA(SP?) ARE THE ONLY CONTINENTS THAT HAVE SO FAR AVOIDED ISLAMIC TERRORISM!


Name: RE "The perfect thing to do?"WOMEN READ THIS!!!!!!! & : 3 continents not yet affected by islamist terrorism!EVERYONE READ THIS!
Date: Thursday September 11, 2008
Time: 19:43:23 -0700

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Why a Jew and a Sikh can grow his beard in order to practice his faith. But when Muslim does the same, he is an extremist and terrorist! Why a nun can be covered from head to toe in order to devote herself to God. But when Muslimah does the same she's oppressed. When a western women stays at home to look after her house and kids she is respected because of sacrificing herself. But when a Muslim women does so by her will, they say, "she needs to be liberated" ! Any girl can go to university wearing what she wills (e.g…Ear, mouth, nose and body piercing and tattooing etc..Wearing skinnies, Minnies and and see through cloths and putting on what ever type of make-Up) and have her rights and freedom? But when Muslimah wears a Hijab they prevent her from entering her university! When Western a child dedicates himself to a subject he has potential. But when any child dedicates himself to Islam he is supposed to be learning terrorism! When a Christian or a Jew kills anyone, religion is not mentioned, but when Muslim is charged with a crime, it is Islam that goes to trial! When someone sacrifices himself to keep others alive, he is noble and all respect him. But when a Palestinian does is raped, his home destroyed, and his mosque violated -- He gets the title of a terrorist! Why? Because he is a Muslim! When there is a trouble we accept any solution? If the solution lies in Islam, we refuse to take a look at it. When someone drives a perfect car in a bad way no one blames the car. But when any Muslim makes a mistake or treats people in a bad manner - people say “Islam is the reason"! Without any understanding of Islam, people believe what the media and Ignorant people say.But question what the QURAN says. Long live the Zionist.


Name: re= "The perfect thing to do?"WOMEN READ THIS!!!!!!!
Date: Thursday September 11, 2008
Time: 19:57:01 -0700

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Muslim women's whole body might be covered but underneath there is a mind and a strong spirit and is also sign of modesty and humility. Whats underneath the cloaks are saved for one man, if you need yours you need to get married so your wife can save it for you too. Banning the head scarf is like telling the Catholic nuns to stop wearing the scarf imitating Muslims. Mary, Mother the of Jesus (Peace be upon both of them) is also sign of modesty and humility.


Name: What a dumb fart!
Date: Thursday September 11, 2008
Time: 20:37:46 -0700

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A catholic nun wears what she wears out of choice! A muslim commentator says the quran forces the women to wear the burka! As for the women's spirit being strong, etc underneath, that's BOLOGNA IN ISLAM:"Men are superior to women, and a man is better than a woman"(Ibn Kathir on q:4:34). Razi, commenting on q:4:11(which says a woman's testimony is one-half that a man's):"(The males share is that of two females). Man is more perfect than the woman in creation, and intelligience, and in the religious sphere, such as suitability to be a judge, and a leader in worship. Also, the testimony of the man is twice that of the woman. So that whoever is given great responsibilities must be given correspondingly great priviledges. As the woman is deficient in intelligience and of great lust, if she is given much money corruption will be the result." A WOMAN(FORMER MUSLIM) EQUATED BEING IN ISLAM TO BEING A SLAVE! A muslim woman DOES NOT have the choice to do things on her own. ALL permission must be granted to her by her husband! Your own mohammed said the "woman is a toy." TELL ME, WHAT RIGHTS TO "TOYS" HAVE?! A muslim woman CANNOT choose whether or not she wants to stay home(like a western woman can), ALL PERMISSION HAS TO BE GIVEN BY HER HUSBAND. HEY, IF WEARING A BURKA IS SO GREAT, WHY DON'T YOU DO IT?! IF BEATING A WIFE IF YOU "FEAR" REBELLION, WHY CAN'T SHE BEAT YOU IF SHE "FEARS" REBELLION IN YOU?! DON'T TRY TO GIVE US THIS NONSENSE! BEING A MUSLIM WOMAN("TOY") IS NO BETTER THAN BEING A SLAVE! SEX IS ALSO ONLY FOR THE MAN:"Sexual intercourse is an act, and the woman does not act."(muslim commentator). A wife must please her husband AT ALL TIMES FOR HER TO HAVE A CHANCE AT PARADISE(Hadith ii, 74). BUT NOTHING IS SAID ABOUT IF HE IS DISPLEASING TO HER! "The prophet of Allah said:When a man calls his wife to satisfy his desire, let her come to him though she is occupied at the oven." THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN SLAVERY! One muslim commentator said there are four conditions when a man can beat his wife, Ibn Kathir said a man "must not be asked why he beat his wife." THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR A MAN TO BEAT OR CONFINE HIS WIFE TO HER ROOM EVEN THOUGH THE QURAN SAYS THERE IS! TELL ME, CAN SHE EVER BEAT HIM?! NO!!! SHE IS EXHORTED TO DIPLOMACY IF SHE "FEARS" REBELLION IN HIM!!!(Razi, At-tafsir al-Kabir, on q: 4:34). A MUSLIM MAN CAN EVEN PREVENT HIS WIFE FROM CARING FOR HER CHILD FROM A PREVIOUS MARRIAGE!!('Abd ar-Rahman al-Gaziri). WHAT KIND OF ENSLAVEMENT IS THIS?! YOU DON'T HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON!


Name: A woman wearing "skinnies?"
Date: Friday September 12, 2008
Time: 17:25:38 -0700

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Who am I arguing with here, a five year old child?! My future wife's body will be mine BUT my body will be her's. Let's put the shoe on the other foot:because she will see my intimate body, does she have the right to FORCE me to wear a burka?!Doesn't work that way does it? No, because islam is always against the women and for the man!


Name:
Date: Saturday September 13, 2008
Time: 08:27:35 -0700

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Why is a woman's testimony is one-half that a man's? Why is a males share is that of two females?


Name:
Date: Friday September 19, 2008
Time: 06:54:04 -0700

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TRUE Islamic rule = no usury, proper punishments for crimes (who would love to see a foul mouthed yob be whipped in public? I would). No alcohol, no porn, no homosexuality, no gays adopting kids, respect for parents paramount, all faiths tolerated and minorities protected, no drunken dickheads to cause fighting etc. Whats wud be wrong about TRUE Islamic rule? Muslims are allowed to retaliate against agression but they must use proportion. Muslims are not allowed to start agression, and if agressors want peace then Muslims have to incline towards peace too. If i had a fight with a Muslim in a war and i dropped my weapon, the Muslim has to wait until i pick my weapon up again to resume. Those bastard kidnap groups who capture people and behead them and post it on the Internet are Satan worshippers. I loathe them for what they did to those Americans and Britons.


Name: A Muslim Guide to Survival
Date: Saturday September 20, 2008
Time: 04:36:15 -0700

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1)Drive the unseen enemy troubling your mind. This unseen enemy plants hatred in your heart to an extreme degree you lose the desire to live and all you want to do is kill. This struggle is not easy. Use your willpower and command this unseen enemy to "Go away!" Once you succeed you will experience PEACE of MIND you have not experienced before. 2) Guard your victory with utmost care. Keep it secret to yourself only for great danger is lurking around you. 3)Move to a safer place or to another country where there is freedom of religion. 4)Live in peace with your neighbors in that place or country. Ephesians 6:12 "For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places."


Name: allat
Date: Monday September 29, 2008
Time: 21:17:49 -0700

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Yes, but the christians had already done the same to the "Pagans" in that area, not to mention Europe. For hubris and lack of mercy, and lording it over others, christians take the cake. So what's the difference?


 
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