The Logical Fallacies of Islamic Apologists
27 Dec, 2008
These fallacies are, however, not limited to the Muslims alone. People of other faiths also commit these fallacies, albeit in different scales and measures. Since Islam is the core issue at hand, I will limit myself to this particular stream of thought.
- These fallacies are in no way exhaustive, however the intent is that you will son be able to recognize them and not be fooled by them.
Accent
Accent is a form of fallacy through shifting meaning. In this case, the meaning is changed by altering which parts of a statement are emphasized. For example:
“We should not tell lies unless we are in danger”
“We should not tell lies unless we are in danger”
Be particularly wary of this fallacy, it's easy to misread the
emphasis of what's written. This is a very common fallacy,
especially used in debates over the internet and in general articles
as such... Better be aware of them.
Ad hoc (for this purpose only)
There is a difference between argument and explanation. If we're interested in establishing A, and B is offered as evidence, the statement "A because B" is an argument. If we're trying to establish the truth of B, then "A because B" is not an argument, it's an explanation.
The Ad Hoc fallacy is to give an after-the-fact explanation which doesn't apply to other situations. Often this ad hoc explanation will be dressed up to look like an argument. For example, if we assume that Allah treats all people equally, then the following is an ad hoc explanation:
"I recovered quickly from my cancer."
"Allahu Akbar, Alhamdullilah. Allah is your healer."
"So, will He heal others who have cancer?"
"Err.. Allah knows best."
Affirmation of the consequent
This fallacy is an argument of the form "A implies B, B is true,
therefore A is true." Here's an example:
"If the universe had been created by a supernatural being, we would see order and organization everywhere. And we do see order, not randomness--so it's clear that the universe had a creator."
Amphiboly
Amphiboly occurs when the premises used in an argument are ambiguous because of careless or ungrammatical phrasing. For example:
"Premise: Belief in Allah fills a much-needed gap."
Anecdotal evidence
One of the simplest fallacies is to rely on anecdotal evidence. For example:
"There's abundant proof that God exists and is still performing miracles today. Just last week I read about a girl who was dying of cancer. Her whole family prayed five times a day for a whole month and prayed for her, and she was cured."
It's quite valid to use personal experience to illustrate a point; but such anecdotes don't actually prove anything to anyone. Your friend may say he met JFK in the supermarket, but those who haven't had the same experience will require more than your friend's anecdotal evidence to convince them.
Anecdotal evidence can seem very compelling, especially if the
audience wants to believe it. This is part of the explanation for
urban legends; stories which are verifiably false have been known to
circulate as anecdotes for years.
Argumentum ad antiquitatem
This is the fallacy of asserting that something is right or good simply because it's old, or because "that's the way it's always been." The opposite of Argument ad Novitatem.
"For thousands of years Muslims have believed in Allah. Islam must be true, to have persisted so long even in the face of persecution."
Argumentum ad baculum (Appeal to force or fear)
An Appeal to Force happens when someone resorts to force (or the threat of force) to try and push others to accept a conclusion. This fallacy is often used by politicians, and can be summarized as "might makes right." The threat doesn't have to come directly from the person arguing. For example:
"Thus there is ample proof of the truth of the Quran. All those who refuse to accept that truth will burn in Hellfire."
“In any case I will find where you live, and do you know that I have been trained to slaughter animals.”
Argumentum ad crumenam
The fallacy of believing that money is a criterion of correctness; that those with more money are more likely to be right. The opposite of Argument ad Lazrum Example:
“Islam is undoubtedly superior, why else would Muhammad be able to kill all his enemies.”
Argumentum ad hominem (Abusive: attacking the person)
Argumentum ad hominem literally means "argument directed at the man"; there are two varieties.
The first is the abusive form. If you refuse to accept a statement, and justify your refusal by criticizing the person who made the statement, then you are guilty of abusive argumentum ad hominem. For example:
"You claim that Non-Muslims can be moral--yet I happen to know that you have sexual relations outside marriage."
This is a fallacy because the truth of an assertion doesn't depend on the virtues of the person asserting it. A less blatant argumentum ad hominem is to reject a proposition based on the fact that it was also asserted by some other easily criticized person. For example:
"Therefore we should close down the Mosques? Christians and Jews would have agreed with you."
A second form of argumentum ad hominem is to try and persuade someone to accept a statement you make, by referring to that person's particular circumstances. For example:
"Therefore it is perfectly acceptable to slaughter animals Islamically for food. I hope you won't argue otherwise, given that you're quite happy to wear leather shoes."
This is known as circumstantial argumentum ad hominem. The fallacy can also be used as an excuse to reject a particular conclusion. For example:
"Of course you'd argue that pigs are not unclean. You're a Non-Muslim who like to eat pork.”
This particular form of Argumentum ad Hominem, when you allege
that someone is rationalizing a conclusion for selfish reasons, is
also known as "poisoning the well.” It’s not always invalid to refer
to the circumstances of an individual who is making a claim. If
someone is a known perjurer or liar, that fact will reduce their
credibility as a witness. It won't, however, prove that their
testimony is false in this case. It also won't alter the soundness
of any logical arguments they may make.
Argumentum ad ignorantiam (Argument from ignorance)
Argumentum ad ignorantiam means "argument from ignorance." The fallacy occurs when it's argued that something must be true, simply because it hasn't been proved false. Or, equivalently, when it is argued that something must be false because it hasn't been proved true.
(Note that this isn't the same as assuming something is false until it has been proved true. In law, for example, you're generally assumed innocent until proven guilty.)
Here are a couple of examples:
"Of course the Quran is true. Nobody can prove otherwise."
"Of course telepathy and other psychic phenomena do not exist. Nobody has shown any proof that they are real."
In scientific investigation, if it is known that an event would produce certain evidence of its having occurred, the absence of such evidence can validly be used to infer that the event didn't occur. It does not prove it with certainty, however.
For example:
"A flood as described in the Quran would require an enormous volume of water to be present on the earth. The earth doesn't have a tenth as much water, even if we count that which is frozen into ice at the poles. Therefore no such flood occurred."
It is, of course, possible that some unknown process occurred to
remove the water. Good science would then demand a plausible
testable theory to explain how it vanished.
Argumentum ad lazarum
The fallacy of assuming that someone poor is sounder or more virtuous than someone who's wealthier. This fallacy is the opposite of the Argument ad Crumenam. For example:
“Sufis are more likely to possess insight into the meaning of
life, as they have given up the distractions of wealth."
Argumentum ad logicam
This is the "fallacy fallacy" of arguing that a proposition is false because it has been presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument. Remember always that fallacious arguments can arrive at true conclusions.
"Take the fraction 16/64. Now, canceling a six on top and a six on the bottom, we get that 16/64 = 1/4."
"Wait a second! You can't just cancel the six!"
"Oh, so you're telling us 16/64 is not equal to 1/4, are you?"
Argumentum ad misericordiam (Appeal to pity; Special pleading)
This is the Appeal to Pity, also known as Special Pleading. The fallacy is committed when someone appeals to pity for the sake of getting a conclusion accepted. For example:..
“Muhamad did not kill the Quraiza Jews, Please don’t find him guilty, he was suffering enough by the death of his son Ibrahim.”
Argumentum ad nauseam
This is the incorrect belief that an assertion is more likely to be true, or is more likely to be accepted as true; the more often it is heard. So an Argumentum ad Nauseam is one that employs constant repetition in asserting something; saying the same thing over and over again until you're sick of hearing it.
“Islam is the only true religion of Allah (God)”
Argumentum ad novitatem
This is the opposite of the Argumentum ad Antiquitatem it's the fallacy of asserting that something is better or more correct simply because it is new, or newer than something else.
“Islam is a better religion than Judaism because it also accepts Jesus as a Prophet of God”
Argumentum ad numerum
This fallacy is closely related to the argumentum ad populum. It consists of asserting that the more people who support or believe a proposition, the more likely it is that that proposition is correct. For example:
“One hundred and twenty billion people believe that Islam is the true religion of God. To suggest that it isn’t in the face of so many believers is ridiculous.”
“All I’m saying is that millions of people go for Haj, so there must be something to it.”
Argumentum ad populum (Appeal to the people or gallery)
This is known as Appealing to the Gallery, or Appealing to the People. You commit this fallacy if you attempt to win acceptance of an assertion by appealing to a large group of people. This form of fallacy is often characterized by emotive language. Muslim apologetics use this fallacy a lot in putting their arguments in public debates.
For example:
"Pornography must be banned. It is violence against women."
"For thousands of years people have believed that Allah is the only deity worthy to be worshipped and Muhammad is his messenger. This belief has had a great impact on their lives. What more evidence do you need that Muhammad was the Prophet of God? Are you trying to tell those people that they are all mistaken fools?"
Argumentum ad verecundiam (Appeal to authority)
The Appeal to Authority uses admiration of a famous person to try and win support for an assertion. For example:
"Ibn Sina was a genius and he believed in Allah."
This line of argument isn't always completely bogus when used in an inductive argument; for example, it may be relevant to refer to a widely-regarded authority in a particular field, if you're discussing that subject. For example, we can distinguish quite clearly between:
"Mawdudi gave a fatwa on rape in Islam"
and,
"Pervez Mussharaf said the Quran needs to be reinterpreted"
Mawdudi was an Ulema of Islam, so it can be understood that he
could pass a fatwa. However Mussharaf was an army General, even
though he was a Muslim, it’s less likely that he could make such an
assertion.
Bifurcation
Also referred to as the "black and white" fallacy and "false dichotomy," bifurcation occurs if someone presents a situation as having only two alternatives, where in fact other alternatives exist or can exist. For example:
"Either man was created, as the Quran tells us, or he evolved from inanimate chemicals by pure random chance, as scientists tell us. The latter is incredibly unlikely, so ..."
Circulus in demonstrando
This fallacy occurs if you assume as a premise the conclusion which you wish to reach. Often, the proposition is rephrased so that the fallacy appears to be a valid argument. For example:
“Kafirs must not be allowed to hold an office in a higher position. Hence any high government official who is revealed to be a Kafir will loose his job. Therefore Kafirs will do anything to hide, and will be open to blackmail. Therefore Kafirs cannot be allowed to hold a high office.”
Note that the argument is entirely circular; the premise is the
same as the conclusion. Circular arguments are surprisingly common,
unfortunately. If you've already reached a particular conclusion
once, it's easy to accidentally make it an assertion when explaining
your reasoning to someone else.
Cum hoc ergo propter hoc
This fallacy is similar to post hoc ergo propter hoc. The fallacy is to assert that because two events occur together, they must be causally related. It's a fallacy because it ignores other factors that may be the cause(s) of the events.
“Crime in society has increased since the advent of television. Clearly television is Satan, and must be banned.”
These were a few logical fallacies that Muslims as well as defenders of other faiths commit. However in the absence of real issues Muslims tend to use them more commonly than any other group.
This was a basic introduction to the world of logic, logical fallacies and their understanding thereof. These are some of the foremost pillars of Atheism. A very common example of a logical fallacy is when people say that all Communists are atheist and hence all atheists are communists. This is a very major logical fallacy which people who for most of the time sound logical. The reason behind this is that there is a plethora of emotion behind the derivation of certain thoughts of an individual who does not base his thoughts on reason.
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Ibrahim Lone is Kashmir-born ex-Muslim. He can be contacted at Ibrahim6661@gmail.com
Name: amar khan
Date: Friday December 26, 2008
Time: 17:17:34 -0500
Comment
good article..............but these logical fallacies are very common. even muslims believe in conspiracy theories without research and logic e.g 9/11 was american own game etc etc... logic is far away from our indo-pak society....
Name: continuum
Date: Friday December 26, 2008
Time: 22:22:17 -0500
Comment
"logic is far away from our indo-pak society...." May be from Pak society, but NOT from Indian society. India has its own school of logic (Nyaya) if I am right. Hindu schools have developed quite advanced systems of logic on par with modern logic.
Name: Ibrahim
Date: Friday December 26, 2008
Time: 22:55:51 -0500
Comment
I agree with you Amar. Logic is far from the Indian subcontinent now. It was not like this always, the ignorant and illogical masses of today once used to have varied schools of logic. However the advent of Islam imposed a ban on logial thinking. This made an impact not only on the converts to Islam but also on those who still practice Hinduism and other Indic religions. Sadly Islam did not do away with Jahilliyah, it actually ussered an era of Jahilliyah which is still refusing to go away.
Name: continuum to Ibrahim Lone
Date: Friday December 26, 2008
Time: 23:09:58 -0500
Comment
May be you should not expect every person in Indian society to go strictly by logic. I simply do not understand statements like "Logic is far from the Indian subcontinent now" you make. It is NOT without logic that Indian society is developing its own Scientific institutions, space agencies, pharmaceutical orgs etc. etc. Agreed there are large number of illiterates in our country, that does NOT mean "Logic is far from the Indian subcontinent now" just because Indians do not do things according to your likings/ways/conclusions.
Name: RE:continuum
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 00:47:36 -0500
Comment
Yes Continum, that I what I wish and not expect, that every person in the Indian subcontinent attain a logical and critical reasoning ability . That is one of the best ways to reach enlightenment according to me. I have a right to my opinions and I will express them without being apologetic. Now what I should wish for or not wish for is entirely my perrogative, I dont think I need to be adviced especially when it is uncalled for and not required.
Name: continuum to Ibrahim Lone
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 00:53:01 -0500
Comment
You may expect something, but that does NOT mean "Logic is far from the Indian subcontinent now". It is irrational to have such opinions when there are significant population who do use logical reasoning. I am NOT advising you, I am merely giving my opinion just as you do.
Name: il-ji great one !!!
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 01:57:54 -0500
Comment
if a real god gave koran to mankind then it must be error free,which it is not,so koran is not from a god.so who created universe and who created man ?? universe is created by energy-nature and man is eviled by nature proof is in human genetic dna.so nature is the true god.this one is sorted out.nature-energy-god-shakti-prakruti.
Name: logic was essential common subject taught for all students in ancient Nalanda university
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 03:26:18 -0500
Comment
logic was essential common subject taught for all students in ancient Nalanda university.I think it was necessary for comprehensive education.
Name: RE: Ibrahim to continum
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 04:00:21 -0500
Comment
Wishes cannot be logical, if you could understand that simple fact, you would have refrained from making that statement dear continuum. For the simple reason that wishes are a by product of that part of the brain which generates emotions. I don’t say that we should do away with emotions and become calculative, rather we use reason where emotional can take us into dangerous territory. Now which part don’t you understand here? What you said was not your opinion it was directed specifically at me and my thoughts. Hence it was an ill founded advice. Again Continuum I did not say that I expect, I said I wish. These are two different words with entirely different meanings. However if you want to draw meaning out of others words you are entitled to doing so as you are free to think whatever you like, however if your thinking is not at the same plane as that of the person in whose brain the thought originated then there is a severe problem. Now that you have yet to understand the intricacies of the English language and since my thoughts are still haunted by my Islamic past, according to you, there is obviously going to a problem for you to comprehend the logical fallacies that you have committed. Obviously you choose to replace words with those which suit you. This could be for varied reasons. An extreme bias against those who have a different cultural and social background from yours could be a reason. Of course it is not an absolute, however the possibility remains. Or maybe you have a problem in grasping finer details of the English language. The possibilities are infinite. Nothing personal, dear Continuum, just an opinion.
Name: RE:continuum from Ibrahim
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 04:13:31 -0500
Comment
Before I forget, how did you assume that I am an Indian when you said that "Agreed there are large number of illiterates in our country". Who told you that I am an Indian by nationality? I could very well be living in Australia or Tanzania for that matter. Another gem of yours "Logic is far from the Indian subcontinent now" just because Indians do not do things according to your likings/ways/conclusions." I never said that Indians act according to what I say, did I . Don’t you ever feel that the misery in India should be elevated or that Islam should be done away with? I am sure you must have, so you see that is a wish, which is not generated by logical reasoning. Same in my case. Moreover being illiterate has nothing to do with being able to think critically or logically. There are literate people who lack critical thought. I call them literate and not educated so don’t be mistaken, dear continuum. For example, a scientist taking the story of Hanuman quite literally. There are educated useful idiots everywhere. The inability to think critically is not the preserve of the the illiterate alone.
Name: continuum
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 11:55:52 -0500
Comment
"What you said was not your opinion it was directed specifically at me and my thoughts. Hence it was an ill founded advice. Again Continuum I did not say that I expect, I said I wish. These are two different words with entirely different meanings." Is it not irrational to expect improbable things ? Anyway, when you put your thoughts in public forum, somebody will give an opposing viewpoint. If you take it as your personal advice it is your problem.
Name: continuum
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 12:04:45 -0500
Comment
"Before I forget, how did you assume that I am an Indian when you said that "Agreed there are large number of illiterates in our country"." My mistake...You seemed to have enough knowledge on Indians and India and so my presumption. Besides you have written yourselves you are Kashmir born ex-muslim. Anyway, there are people who believe in things without sufficient evidence from the Scientific perspective. However this does NOT make them illogical people necessarily, unless the person claims with 100 % certainty. Let me quote something for your reference from your own article, "Of course telepathy and other psychic phenomena do not exist. Nobody has shown any proof that they are real."
Name: RE:continuum
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 12:32:49 -0500
Comment
I said that who told you that I am an Indian national. Does not necessarily mean that I don't have links with India. There are millions of people of not natives of country who choose to accept nationalities other than that of their country of origin. In the case they are of Indian origin, they are know as NRI's, term I believe you must be familiar with. Now some one could be born in one part of the world and very well forsake that nationality for another. There is difference between, nationality and native origin. The two may or may not be same. Another of your logical fallacies, dear Continuum. I hope you understand the difference now. Now whether something is possible is not an absolute. A hundred years back it was impossible to think that we could reach the moon or Mars for that matter. Its a reality now. People could not conceive a device that would enable them to converse with someone half the world away. We have them those devices today. They are know as Telephones. The inetrenet, satellites and a millions of other invetions have been the made not just by reasearch alone but but the hope and faith of those who believed in something. All these people believd in something or the other. I too have my own hope and beliefs, I am not saying that all my hopes will come true, but why should I stop. Ali Sina has a hope that we will see the end of Islam in our lives, now it would sound preposterous to some, yet that man believes in it. Hopes, aspirations, feelings have always been the driving forces of those who can dream and think, not of people who cannot see beyond their narrow prejudices. Okay, it is possible that my hopes appear unrealistic to some now, but then who knows they could be true. And yes you did not again get a whiff of my article, if you say that you are telepathic you have to prove that you are. I simply asked you as to how you knew that I am? It was a question directed at your ability to know something that I have not told you. If you claim to be Telepathic, then we would be please to know from your Highness, as to what is going on in Osama Bin Laden's mind right now as to where he is right now. I am sure with your telepathic powers you will be able to tell us, now wont you, dear Continuum.
Name: continuum to Ibrahim Lone
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 12:51:12 -0500
Comment
1. I do not know why you get personal here. I used Indian in the sense of cultural term, not legal term. 2. I did NOT claim to be telepathic. My point is just because somebody believes in something without sufficient evidence need not necessarily imply that person is illogical.
Name: continuum
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 12:52:20 -0500
Comment
When I say sufficient evidence, I mean in scientific sense.
Name: RE:Is it not irrational to expect improbable things ? Anyway, when you put your thoughts in public forum, somebody will give an opposing viewpoint. If you take it as your personal advice it is your problem.
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 12:59:38 -0500
Comment
Continuum, your fallacies are amazing. I dont blame you though because you have shown yourself to be quite inept at understanding the beauty of language. Let me show you how "Is it not irrational to expect improbable things ? Anyway, when you put your thoughts in public forum, somebody will give an opposing viewpoint. If you take it as your personal advice it is your problem." What do you mean by "improbable things", dear Continuum. Can you please let me know what "Improbable things" are? I have never heard anybody calling things as improbable, perhaps you can explain what it means to me, who knows I might get to learn something from you. Of course opposing view points will be there, the posting was relating to Muslims and it was between me and Amar, however since you decided to play the Wise Guy without having a clear understanding of the context you replied with your consistent logical fallacies and even tried to use my ammunition to try and blow me up, not that you achieved an success. You should not because if if start that you might feel very uncomfortable. Of course it is my problem how I take an impotent advise, and how you feel stung at my remarks is yours. I call that fair Continuum. By the way Continuum why don't you tell us if Sita was raped by Ravana when he flew her in his Boeing Jumbo jet to Lanka. You see being an Ex-Muslim I would really learn more about Slave Mythology (Hindu is word foreign word for the Indian Religion, which means slave, right), I read somewhere that Sita was gang- raped by the Raksahasas. Is that true dear Continuum, please educate me and the rest of the Ex-Muslims who are suffering from a major hangover from our Islamic past.
Name: continuum to Ibrahim Lone
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 13:11:19 -0500
Comment
Mr. Ibrahim, it is NOT necessary to get personal, once again. "Things" can be intangible objects as well. I do not think it is possible for everyone to base their life on logic according to your standards. That is my opinion. Now you ask about Ramayana which is irrelevant to the subject thinking you are hurting me. I will even apologize to you for remarks you think I made personally. As for Ramayana, I think you are NOT even qualified to make any comments as you have NOT read anything from the primary works. The word Hindu comes from the word Sindhu, which the Persians could NOT pronounce correctly. This later acquired derogatory meaning, which comes from a perfectly Islamic culture as expected. Have a nice day or night.
Name: RE:continuum
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 13:14:57 -0500
Comment
Can you show me some scientific evidence from three hundred years back that mobile devices could be manufactured in the future. I will tell you why I made this personal Continuum, because you are a hateful person. I have been reading you dumb posts for a very long time both about Ex-Muslims since quite some time now Continuum. That is why take it personally. I am one of the Ex-Muslim who dared to defy authority, and this matters as such don't remain secret for long. I know someone sometime will get back at me. I hold that feeling in my heart because I believe in human intellect and the power of the Human brain to realize the truth. Of course you might call it illogical, but I call it the power of the Human brain. Those were my two cents Continuum. I shall abstain from further re posting on your comments, because I don't feel you deserve to be answered with all that hatred in your heart. I also apologize to all those Hindus whom I might have hurt by my previous statements.
Name: continuum to Ibrahim Lone
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 13:21:36 -0500
Comment
Mr. Ibrahim Lone, Even after you using so much of abusive words against me, I have NOT used one word of abuse against you and yet you claim I am dumb and hateful. You imagine I am hateful when in reality I am NOT. I was the first one to defend MA Khan when somebody (probably another Hindu or muslim pretending to be Hindu) made a personal attack on him calling him names. Please remember, I even apologized to you in words when you thought I made personal comments. If I have hatred for you or ex-muslims or even muslims in general, I would NOT patiently reply politely as I do here.
Name: continuum to Ibrahim Lone
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 13:33:52 -0500
Comment
I think you know however, I spoke the truth in some aspects and it hurts you and that is why your vitriolic personal attack on me. Don't muslims do the same thing ?
Name: TO : PIG CONTINIUM...RAM IS BETETR THAN PIG ALLAH
Date: Monday December 29, 2008
Time: 05:28:01 -0500
Comment
TO : PIG CONTINUM : RAM IS BETETR THAN PIG ALLAH. ALLAH CUD NOT DEFEAT OR KILL HIS OWN ENEMY IBLIS-SATAN.RAM KILLED RAVAN AND WON BACK SITA.IF SITA WAS RAPED AND RAM ACCEPTED HER HE IS A GREAT MAN AND IF SHE WAS NOT RAPED AND HE ACCEPTED HER HE WAS STILL A GREAT MAN WORTHY TO BE CALLED " GOD " BCOZ YR ALLAH IS NOTHING BUT IMAGINARY ARAB DEITY,WHO IS NON EXISTANT.RAM KILLED HIS ENEMY WITH HELP OF MONKEYS AND BEAR.ALLAH CUD NOT KILL HIS ENEMY WITH EVEN AN ARMY OF ANGELS AND ARCHANGELSALLAH IS IMAGINARY,RAM IS REAL WARRIROR AND REAL GOPD.I PREPER TO FOLLOW RAM THAN WARRIOR THAN ALLAH THE IMAGINARY DEITY.
Name: RE:continuum to Ibrahim Lone
Date: Monday December 29, 2008
Time: 05:34:50 -0500
Comment
Show me where I have abused you, I was merely pointing out the logical fallacies in your religion. I think its you who is hurt now.
Name:
Date: Monday December 29, 2008
Time: 06:25:17 -0500
Comment
Let us forget Islam,there are other more important things to think about.
Name: Islam is the winner
Date: Monday December 29, 2008
Time: 07:07:32 -0500
Comment
When infidels are fighting each other then Islam is the winner. Patch your differences and let us concentrate our energy against Islam.
Name: continuum to Ibrahim Lone
Date: Monday December 29, 2008
Time: 19:47:15 -0500
Comment
"Show me where I have abused you, I was merely pointing out the logical fallacies in your religion. I think its you who is hurt now." Did I make personal comments anywhere Ibrahim Lone ? On the contrary you made personal comments that I am hateful etc. That is an abusive statement indeed. My statements were always on the subject, not on any person. You decide who got hurt. On my religion you have not shown anything illogical there. Why don't you read your own article again ?
Name: Philip Saenz
Date: Monday December 29, 2008
Time: 20:03:12 -0500
Comment
Islam is a so-called religion composed of 73 contradictory sects. Which contradictions are true? Which contradictions are false? Which Muslim sect is infallible if any? It's quite obvious that Islam is a religion of contradictoy silliness. In order for a religion to be true, it would have to be protected by an Almighty Just and infallible God. In other words the religion would have to be infallible for it to be true. Is Allah that infallible god? Obviously not since Allah taught injustice, cruelty and contradictions. I would never take my chances with such a god as the unjust, cruel, contradictory Allah, who is no doubt Satan since Satan is also unjust, cruel and contradictory. Since Allah is actually Satan, I conjoin the two names as follows: Satan/Allah or Allah Satan. If I were a Muslim, I would leave the religion of contradictions, and cruelty, i.e., Islam. Islam is a very dangerous religion because it does come from the deceptive, contradictoy and cruel Satan. Not only is Islam a danger to "infidels," who are attacked daily by Islam, it is also a great danger to Muslims, who attack and murder each other on a daily basis. It's quite obvious that cruel Islam was initiated for the sole purpose to destroy especially human beings.
Name: A former Muslim said...
Date: Tuesday January 06, 2009
Time: 23:31:46 -0500
Comment
A former muslim who became a Christian said that there was a word in islam that means to lie if the end justifies the means. So, a muslim can lie if it serves his purpose. Mohammed(pee be upon him) said that if anyone converts to another religion,"let him be killed." This should be proof enough to any muslim that islam will try to keep you by intimidation. Instead, leave this cult! Don't stay in something that tries to keep it's members by intimidation!