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Muhammad: The Wise Assassin

by Ibn Kammuna & Ibrahim Lone

22 Dec, 2008

Introduction

The story of Ka’b is very well known by the Islamic historians and general Muslims alike. This man, who was a Jew, has been awarded a status of villainy and treachery by the Muslim scholars. Needless to say no matter how great the lie, a lie will always be extinguished by the truth. Even though the Muslim scholars tried to do a good job a vilifying this man as someone who hated Prophet Muhammad and planned to kill him, yet they have left traces for those with the ability to think rationally to derive the truth.

Prophet Muhammad was a very wise man as he was deceitful. He knew how to use the situations to his own benefit. It was his deceitful nature which led to the assassination of a man called Ka’b. His crime to cry out his woes in the face of the annihilation of his near ones.

However evil and piety, good and bad all of these have different meanings for a Muslim. For him these words acquire a different dimension altogether when compared with someone who is not a Muslim. So Muslims justify every act of Prophet Muhammad, and trust not us, but the history of Islam for verifying this fact. Every act of Muhammad is a holy act done with the blessings of his Lord Allah.

In this article, we discuss the “holy” assassination of Ka’b Bin Al-Ashraf. Understanding what made Muhammad kill this man, and how his act is considered as an act of piety by Muslims. In this journey we get to understand how Muslims justify the crimes of Muhammad and present them as a benchmark for other Muslims to follow. The story of this assassination can be found in many sources. Let us start from the “Sirat” (The Life of Muhammad – A translation of Ibn Ishaq’s SIRAT RASUL ALLAH. Translated by A. Guillaume). The full story can be found on pages 364 through 368.

The “Sirat” Story of the assassination of Ka’b

In the battle of Badr, which the Meccans lost to the Muslims, many were killed. Amongst them were some of the Meccan respected leaders (pp.364-5). When Ka’b, one of the Bani Al-Nadir leaders (A Jewish tribe that lived in Medina) heard of the news, he was very upset and saddened, especially on hearing the death of two of the Meccan leaders whom he respected and loved (Zayd and Abdullah bin Rawaha). He was saddened by the news, and went to Mecca. And stayed with Al-Muttalib bin Abu Wada’a who was married to Atika bint Abul Is. She took him in and entertained him hospitably. As a side note here we can see how the role of women in Mecca in pre-Islamic times was honorable. They were an active part of the household. Nowadays, when you go to a true Muslims house, women are hidden in the inner part of the house. You can only visit with the men if you are a male. From all that I read about the role of women in Pre-Islamic times in the Arabian peninsula was more dignified and had an active participation in the social life of the community that went staggered when Islam ruled. Moving along, Ka’b bewailed the slain of Quraysh in the battle of Badr. He composed some poetry that was mostly grieving for the dead (pp. 365–7). Then he composed amatory verses of an insulting nature about the Muslim women. Does such a behavior demand a plot of assassination? Off course not. But, according to the holy prophet it does. Here is what Muhammad said:

Who will rid me of Ibnul’Ashraf (Meaning Ka’b. Muhammad Just wanted him killed)
Muhammad bin Maslama answers the call of the prophet of doom and says:
I will deal with him for you, O apostle of Allah, I will kill him
And Muhammad answers:
Do so if you can (note how the holy prophet is not pushing it. He is telling him to do it if only he can! This is a good moral lesson for us good Muslims. We only assassinate when we can! The idea that assassination is morally wrong just does not exist in the mind of an evil cult leader like Muhammad.)

Then Muhammad bin Maslama goes on a fasting spree for three days aside from what is absolutely necessary. The prophet summoned him after that and asked him why he gave up eating and drinking. Bin Maslama tells the prophet that this assassination undertaking may be difficult to fulfill. And, again, the prophet assures Muhammad bin Maslama by saying, “All that is incumbent upon you is that you should try.” What a passionate prophet! He is just giving Bin Maslama the green light to try to kill someone, and assures him that things will be okay, even if he fails to kill Ka’b. And again, the moral predicate of killing another human being for no good reason, if a reason at all, does not come to the mind of this evil prophet. Muhammad bin Maslama, then, tells the prophet, “O apostle of Allah, we shall have to tell lies” upon which the prophet answers, “Say what you like, for you are free in the matter”.

So far we have two major moral dilemmas that are rejected by a decent human being, but are accepted and encouraged by prophet Muhammad: assassination and lying.

The story continues, and Bin Maslama and others, including a foster brother of Ka’b, go to see Ka’b and visit with him and recite poetry and talk in a negative tone about the prophet. They ask Ka’b to give them food for their families on account of paying him back later. An agreement issues that they’ll come back for this end and bring him weapons to leave as a pledge that they’ll pay him back. It was Ka’b's foster brother who suggested weapons. Ka’b accepted that. But his foster brother’s idea is not to get him, Ka’b, alarmed when he sees them back carrying weapons. The men go back and meet with the prophet. The prophet was supportive and walked with them a good distance on their night trip to go and assassinate Ka’b. Then he sent them saying, “Go in Allah’s name. O Allah help them.” As you can see, prophet Muhammad was such a supportive man. He enlisted Allah’s help to assassinate a man!

The story continues with these men going to Ka’b's castle. His foster brother calls him while he is in bed. Ka’b had been recently married. His wife had a sixth sense and said to him: “You are at war, and those who are at war do not go out at this hour”. Ka’b is not bothered by her comment, I suspect mainly because his foster brother was calling. Those of us who, have foster children or brothers or sisters, know that such individuals are family. It is this sense of security, I believe, that delivered Ka’b to his enemies (by the way, using a family member to kill another was utilized at least twice by Muhammad. This incident is one of them. Ali Sina mentions another interesting story about a son plotting and killing his father. This is a behavior that can be seen in cult members – see Sina’s book 2nd edition, p. 232-3).

Ka’b’s wife still tells him about his foster brother, “By God, I can feel evil in his voice”. Even so, her words did not get through to Ka’b and he goes out to see the men, who came to see him. They play a cheap trick of smelling the perfume on his head and complementing him on that. Bin Maslama finally gets a hold of his head and tells his companions “Smite the enemy of Allah”. To his credit, Ka’b gave out a good fight, but with many men attacking him, he was on the losing end, and died. After that assassination, the four Muslim men involved in the incident go to the apostle of Allah, prophet Muhammad, at the end of the night and salute him while he was praying! (that must have been some prayer considering the evil he had plotted that very night!). Muhammad comes out to them and they tell him that they had just killed Allah’s enemy. One of the men was wounded and bleeding from the attack on Ka’b. Muhammad spat on the wounds and all men went back to their families afterwards. The Muslim Ummah had triumphed again, by assassinating another human being.

One of the interesting parts of the above story is having a foster brother of Ka’b, who is really just like a blood brother, involved in the assassination incident. It is very difficult to understand this without understanding the mentality of a cult member, and how a cult transforms family members to become dreaded enemies. It is this part of the story that made Ka’b vulnerable to the Muslims. Without his foster brother involved with the Muslims, we believe, Ka’b would have been able to live longer. However, this was not to be. Prophet Muhammad’s evil intentions against him fully materialized on that cursed night.

Hadith Narrations Regarding the Assassination of Ka’b

Sahih Bukhari 4:52:271:

Narrated Jabir:

The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf (i.e. a Jew)." Muhammad bin Maslama replied, "Do you like me to kill him?" The Prophet replied in the affirmative. Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say what I like." The Prophet replied, "I do (i.e. allow you)."

Sahih Bukhari 3:45:687:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "Who would kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf as he has harmed Allah and His Apostle ?" Muhammad bin Maslama (got up and) said, "I will kill him." So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to Ka'b and said, "I want a loan of one or two Wasqs of food grains." Ka'b said, "Mortgage your women to me." Muhammad bin Maslama said, "How can we mortgage our women, and you are the most handsome among the Arabs?" He said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." Muhammad said, "How can we mortgage our sons, as the people will abuse them for being mortgaged for one or two Wasqs of food grains? It is shameful for us. But we will mortgage our arms to you." So, Muhammad bin Maslama promised him that he would come to him next time. They (Muhammad bin Maslama and his companions came to him as promised and murdered him. Then they went to the Prophet and told him about it.

Sahih Bukhari 5:59:369:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Ka'b). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Ka'b and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food." (Some difference between narrators about a camel load or two.) Kab said, "Yes, (I will lend you), but you should mortgage something to me." Muhammad bin Mas-lama and his companion said, "What do you want?" Ka'b replied, "Mortgage your women to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our women to you and you are the most handsome of the 'Arabs?" Ka'b said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our sons to you? Later they would be abused by the people's saying that so-and-so has been mortgaged for a camel load of food. That would cause us great disgrace, but we will mortgage our arms to you." Muhammad bin Maslama and his companion promised Kab that Muhammad would return to him. He came to Kab at night along with Kab's foster brother, Abu Na'ila. Kab invited them to come into his fort, and then he went down to them. His wife asked him, "Where are you going at this time?" Kab replied, "None but Muhammad bin Maslama and my (foster) brother Abu Na'ila have come." His wife said, "I hear a voice as if dropping blood is from him, Ka'b said. "They are none but my brother Muhammad bin Maslama and my foster brother Abu Naila. A generous man should respond to a call at night even if invited to be killed." Muhammad bin Maslama went with two men. (Some narrators mention the men as 'Abu bin Jabr. Al Harith bin Aus and Abbad bin Bishr). So Muhammad bin Maslama went in together with two men, and sail to them, "When Ka'b comes, I will touch his hair and smell it, and when you see that I have got hold of his head, strip him. I will let you smell his head." Kab bin Al-Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said. " have never smelt a better scent than this. Ka'b replied. "I have got the best 'Arab women who know how to use the high class of perfume." Muhammad bin Maslama requested Ka'b "Will you allow me to smell your head?" Ka'b said, "Yes." Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka'b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka'b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf."

Sahih Muslim 19:4436:

Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS

It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes. He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job. And they killed him.

Muslims' Apologetic Defence of Muhammad’s crime in Assassinating Ka’b Bin Al-Ashraf

Sami Zaatari

Link: http://www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/rebuttal_to_silas_2.htm

In a response to a gentleman named Silas, who raised some issues against Muhammad regarding Ka’b’s assassination, Mr. Zaatari is keen on defending the prophet no matter what. According to Zaatari, Ka’b brought that upon himself. He says:

the prophet Muhammad killed Kab because Kab incited people to kill Muhammad. So therefore no crime was done.

Before we delve into the actual situation of Ka’b and the Muslims here, a simple method of logical analysis shows that Mr. Zaatari’s defence is flawed. Let us accept what he says above. This means that person “A” is morally justified in killing person “B” if person “B” encouraged other people to kill person “A”. I suspect no one will accept this nonsense. Ahmed cannot be morally justified in killing Ali just because Ali encouraged other people to kill or go to war with Ahmed.

Let us now go back to Ka’b’s story and Zaatari’s defence of the prophet

Zaatari’s defense rests on the fact that Ka’b went to Mecca and incited people to kill Muhammad. True, Ka’b did talk negative about the Muslims camp. His Meccan friends were killed by the Muslims. He was weeping with the Meccans in Mecca for the death of their honorable men who were also his friends. What would you do if those leaders of slain Meccans were your friends? Are you supposed to go to the Muslim camp and recite the Shahada? I find Ka’b’s reaction very understandable. But at the same time, he was not conspiring to assassinate Muhammad. In fact, the story of assassinating Ka’b shows that Ka’b never talked about assassinating Muhammad. It did show his belief that those who follow Muhammad are doing themselves a disservice. But it is evident he had no “killing” claims against the Muslims. His foster brother was one of the Muslims, and he, Ka’b, was willing to give them food they requested for sustenance. That does not tell me that Ka’b had it in him to kill the Muslims. The claim that Ka’b just wanted to kill Muslims does not stand critical scrutiny. But wait, this is not the total picture here. Let us assume that Ka’b did in fact incite the Meccans to go to war against the Muslims, does that make his assassination a morally acceptable behavior? Does not a prophet of Allah need to warn Ka’b about his behavior first? Does not a prophet of Allah need to have a direct combat with Ka’b if he wanted him dead? An honorable route of killing Ka’b would be a direct face-to-face combat with the Muslims. Did Muhammad do that? No. He resorted to treachery, lying and to sending assassins in the dark of the night. Is this the hallmark of a man who claims to be the messenger of God? By doing what he did, Prophet Muhammad set an example for his Ummah (Nation) to follow. This is what Muslims are doing today and will continue to do……

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Name: Ilham abdullah
Date: Sunday December 21, 2008
Time: 22:05:18 -0500

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Clearly the ' Phoney Prophet of God ' and his immediate (and later) followers were dealing with temporary mental illness brought on largely by the chaotic times in which they lived. I am an ex-muslim who happens to believe in god and has his own views on spirituality. All this stuff raises the question - How many muslims have actually considered what they are doing?.....

Name: Islamic Deceit
Date: Sunday December 21, 2008
Time: 23:33:36 -0500

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Deceit is an intrinsic quality of Islam.

Name: Zakir
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 00:25:47 -0500

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I am an ex-muslim who gave up Islam after studying it closely (ironically, because I wanted to become a cleric). Islam is an evil cult invented by Mohammed to satisfy his own ego and lust. It is really sad that so many are caught up in it. I wish I could help them all, but I can't. With this website, you guys are doing yeoman's job.

Name: Sean (USA)
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 00:31:48 -0500

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This is the kind of article I love to read. You just got to love exposing Islam for the evil ideoligy that it is when all one needs to do is use Islamic sources.

Name: To Zakir
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 00:54:53 -0500

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People like you need to be congratulated. Kudos for renouncing the deadliest menace to humanity.

Name: Truth
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 01:25:36 -0500

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Two rats called Ibn Kammuna & Ibrahim Lone bad mouth the prophet of Islam defending a man who deserved to die and was so evil like the rest of them… maybe he is worst than Ariel Sharon the man who is now stinks on life support. The Jews in Medina knew well the prophet of Allah and they refused to accept him like they refused to accept Jesus the son of Marry. The Jews came to Medina looking for the seal of the prophet mentioned in their old testament and this is what brought them to Medina in the first place. They even tried to kill prophet Muhammad by poisoning him, the rats Ibn Kammuna & Ibrahim Lone only quote the hadeath and the sirat when they want to proof one side of their argument, the hadeath and the sirat is full of those stories. If we do not believe history just look at what their ancestors are doing to doing today in Palestine.

Name: truth guy u r a real liar
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 01:42:30 -0500

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so called truth guy,u r a real liar.why ? i will tell u. if a book is from a real god,it cant have any mistakes. but yr fake book has lots of mistakes.q-2-222 says that women who menstruate are sick,but truth is menstruation is a natural ovulation cycle nothing to do with any illness.same way quran says in same chapter,that first imaginary allah created earth then turned to the heavens to make them,ie first allah chreated earth which is 4.5 billion yrs old,and then he created universe which is 14 billion year old.how is it possible ?? there r innumerable other mistakes.it proves muhamed and his arab ftriends never received any thing from any god,they just made koran on their own.truth shall stand out from error and so truth has stood out from error,leave yr fake religion or burn in hell forever u filthy pig.THERE IS NO PIG OTHER THAN ALLAH AND MUHAMED IS HIS POOPOO.

Name: Just for the record and to rebut your argument.
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 02:03:04 -0500

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The q-2-222 says the following: [2:222] They ask you about menstruation: say, "It is harmful; you shall avoid sexual intercourse with the women during menstruation; do not approach them until they are rid of it. Once they are rid of it, you may have intercourse with them in the manner designed by GOD. GOD loves the repenters, and He loves those who are clean."*. I do not know where it says the women who menstruate are sick. Only idiots like you want to the Quran to say something it does not say. Maybe I shall say Islam and the Quran teaches physical and spiritual purity unlike those who claim civility and are like animals, they approach their women whenever and wherever. *http://www.quran-islam.org/97.html

Name: TO : GUY WHO CALLS HIMSELF TRUTH BUT ACTUALLY IS FALSEHOOD
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 02:03:06 -0500

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to : guy who calls himself truth but is actually falsehood : i was also a muslim once,and wanted to defend it,but after really reading koran/hadith i left it.the main lure for muslims like u is not god,but the lrue of 72 virgins for sex,wine and 24x7 sex,sex and more sex. this is the reason of yr belief in fake religion islam,sex and wine.even osama bin laden does not believe in this lie,that is why he himself does not die in suicide bombing bcoz he know when he dies there is no heaven or hell.

Name: RE:Truth
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 03:04:30 -0500

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So you think we are rats, very well. It shows the kind of upbringing you have had ,inorder to use such words for people who really are able to analyse the truth and get rid of a nuisance called Islam. So what are the Jewish people doing to the Palestinians. The Palestianians are in a hurry to go to Jennah, and the Israelis are merely aiding them, is that so bad. After all you Muslims give such a high status to Mujahids. Hiding behing ordinary civilians, while they fire they train their guns at the Jewish population is a trademark of these Mujahids. Incidently they also try to protect their organ by covering it in some kind of Aluminium foil so that they dont miss out on the Heavenly pleasures which they believe they are to recieve. Kill innocent Israeli children, women by exploding thyemselves, while their friends on the other side of Gaza shout Allahu Akbar. Worthless creatures who are the by products of a useless civilization calling themseves the Holy warriors. These are the people Muslims hold in high regard and you call us rats.......

Name: dd
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 03:19:05 -0500

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http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/002.qmt.html#002.222 YUSUFALI: "They are a hurt" PICKTHAL: "It is an illness"

Name: osama knows there is no god/allah and no jannat,that is why he does not become suicide bomber
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 03:26:03 -0500

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osama knows that there is no god/allah and that after he dies there is no wine/houries in imaginaqry jannat,proof is : he never wants to become suicide bomber,he lets his followers go then married their widows and enjoys jannat here on earth as per reports from pakistan,and they say he is a saitn he marrie dthese widows,if he was real saitn he wud ask them to be sister,not fuck them. ANOTHER NOTE : same way all mullas all proponents of jihad,ETC KNOW THERE IS NO JANNAT OR ANY WINE/VIRGINS IN STORE THAT IS WHY THEY THEMSELF NEVER GO TO JIHAD BUT SEND YOUNG DUMB MUSLIMS BCOZ THEY WANT TO BE SAFE AND LET OPTHERS BE KILLED.if a muslim is real muslims he shud immediately stop all work and become suicide nbomber and blow himself up,so he can see forhimself there is no jannat its all a lie.the mullas and muhamed knews it now everyone shud know this.

Name: How evil minded this mad mohammad is?
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 03:44:18 -0500

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How evil minded this mad mohammad is?How can present day muslims still suppress thier rationality and conscience.Mohammad was the greatest villian in history nad more worst fellow than Hitlar.Now every one here must pledge to save humnaity and rationalise muslims.Mo just confused then arabs with prophet and revelations concept and twisted morals and rules to satisfy his animalistc desire.Even animals feel ashamed if we call Mo as animal as they do not harm any one with out any reason.

Name: The coward and evil assasin can be prophet?
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 03:53:34 -0500

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The coward and evil assasin can be prophet?Muslims are confuesed by quron and islam about the morals which are common to all humans.

Name: RE:The coward and evil assasin can be prophet?
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 05:24:36 -0500

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Muslims are not confused by the Quran and the Hadiths. This is an entirely incorrect analysis. They are actually confused by the Mullahs who claim to know better. Most of the Muslims dont even bother to read the Quran, even those who mostly dont understand what the Quran says, because they dont read the relevant Hadith without which it is impossible to understand the Quran. While the Quran on its own stands out as a stupid book, what adds to its stupidity are the relevant hadith and the Tafsir which add to its stupidity.

Name: RE:Just for the record and to rebut your argument.
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 05:34:32 -0500

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Now where does the Quran say that it is harmful to have sexual union during the period that a woman is going through her periods? The Quran and tafsir say that a woman is unclean or physically dirty during this time of the month and men should avoid contact inorder that they may not get unclean as a result of which their Salah will not yeild them the desired rewards. A god who first arranges for women to bleed and then to add insult to injury also calls them unclean is a Psycotic personality. Moreover the word unclean in Islam is not the same as impure as understood by the Christians and the Hindus. Unlean in Islam is something physically dirty which should be avoided inorder to keep one's self away from evil. The list includes Kafirs, faeces, urine, spit,dogs, pigs etc. So Islamically speaking women during their menses are not better than pigs or dogs. You know I would have forgiven the fool who had posted this message for all to laugh at, if only he or she had been an ignorant. However this one is not an ignorant. This person fully understands what Islam is all about and hence cannot be let go without a reply that satisfies those who still retain their ability to think critically.

Name: RE:Just for the record and to rebut your argument. 2
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 05:38:33 -0500

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And for the record your Prophet, used to enjoy physical pleasure with his wives even when they were in their menses. This has been recorded in inumerable Hadith. In one Ayesha the child wife of the Prophet said that "during the period of Idah, the prophet would ask us to put on a white cloth and then FONDLE us" This prophet never practiced what he preached. Moreover I really dont understand why Ayesha would reveil something so personal to others. Especially in one Hadith when she said that "None of you could control himself (sexually) like the Prophet could" I wonder if she had other sexual encounters which gave her an insight into the libido and self control of other men?

Name: Prasad Rao- God Bless India
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 06:36:14 -0500

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Muslims are not shy to wait for about the 72 big bosom houris or eternal virgins and rivers of wine of different flavors in jannat or paradise awaiting all devout Muslims.( a Muslim means he who adheres to and obeys the teaching of Allah, the one God ) If I live my life true, as how my creator wanted me, then I could substitute my own wife in this world who’s record I hope will be as good as mine as one of the 72 big bosom houris or eternal virgins in paradise. There will be Humans who will follow Islam and adhere to its teachings till the world ends or till they complete their term in this world, till our lord enters us to paradise, unlike most readers who are offended and blinded by the current atrocities committed by your people like in the 20th century, even after those unwanted wars and those fictional Gas chambers where 6million were supposed to have perished. The greatest menace started after 1948, when terrorist were given the power to rule a tiny created nation and now these people were able to dictate to the rest of the world about the lies of the past and how to rule by deception, and how to rule by invading and confiscating from the natives and raping and molesting the native who gave them temporary sanctuary when a fictional mad man wanted your people out of his country. These people are the Descendants who tried to confuse the God of Moses by erecting a Calf even after Moses saved them from the tyrant. These Line of Descendants are the same people who are responsible for the calling of death to the beloved prophet Jesus, but it was the creator who took him up and will send him back to mankind to warn them about the crimes that they have committed for not following the creators laws, but instead following man made laws which diverts them away from the creators path. So my dear you are the Descendants of those people who are the real murderers, rapist, plunderers, pedophiles. Beware your time is up. The world will put your crimes to the test. Its easy to say that the Quran is grossly distorted copycat of Biblical. That’s because all the Prophets were sent by the creator to warn mankind of the unjust doing and to encourage mankind to live as a community, by helping each other rather than fighting each other for personal gain. Who is the great? Is it the creator or the creations? Allah, has created everything in pairs. To account for bisexuals and Men having Nipples is like Questioning as to why there are believers and unbelievers of Allah and why people steal and like to grab from others in the name of God. Further you for got why certain animals like dogs can hear the so called dog whistle but humans cant? When God created man with a brain and some still with one who cannot use it? Its mankind’s duty to use it to Acquire knowledge for the benefits of the human race with his or her limited capacity, rather than been selfish and terminating the human race through deception. Now, I fail to understand why some people just cannot understand the above as I have come from an Unbeliever to believer of the God of Mohammad and I hope to Enter Janna by hoping to witness all these false acquisitions of Muslims labeled as terrorist and the real culprits brought to justice and the Islamic law used for there punishment so that all corruption in this world are eliminated.

Name: allah allah kaat de galla this is islamic ideology
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 06:50:56 -0500

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allah allah kaat de galla this is islamic ideology. it means allah allah slit throat of kafirs.this is isamic ideology.IF U JOIN ISLAM U HAVE TO CUT YR PENIS [ CIRCUMCISION IF U LEAVE ISLAM THEY CUT YR THROAT...SO FROM START TO END ISLAM IS JUST VOILENCE ]

Name: RE:Prasad Rao- God Bless India
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 07:25:11 -0500

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There is no cure for people like this one. They are incurable Islamists incapable of any sort of independenpendent or critical thinking. And yes God bless India? Isnt that supposed to be against the tenets of Islam to say something like that.... Did you consult your imam before posting that, huh! According to the guy all the problems in the World started after Jews went back to their ancestral land. How do you explain the Islamic invasion of Persia, Afghanistan, Egypt, India, Mesopotamia, Syria, Spain.... Anyway you are a dummy and the by product of a civilization which has proved itself incapable of elolving. And yes why did your God give men Nipples. Please answer my question if we are to take you even a bit seriously.

Name: Question to Truth from Promachos
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 09:38:55 -0500

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If, and its a BIG if, Islam truely is a religion of peace then why, in contradistinction to Christ who told his followers to spread the Gospel (if you belive in that sort of thing that is), did Mohammed say the following: “Narrated Abdullah bin ‘Umar: Allah's Apostle forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying (copies of) the Quran”- Sahih Bukhari, 4:52, No. 233. What on earth could the peaceloving people of Islam and their peaceful humanist text the Quran have to fear from hostile countries? And why would there be hostile countries and peoples in the first place? Could it be because the lodestar of the religion of peace contains passages like the following... قَاتِلُواْ الَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللّهِ وَلاَ بِالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَابَ حَتَّى يُعْطُواْ الْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ Kill those who believe neither in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyya with willing submission, and are subdued (9:29)? Adolph had his Mein Kampf, Mohammed had his Quran.

Name: Prasad Rao shows syptoms of typical evaise Musilm Behaviour
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 10:03:44 -0500

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M. Rao, I Ibrahim Lone challenge you, To prove that Islam is a peaceful religion. Give us your thesis to prove your words. Here on this Forum. Just pasting a few Suras from the Quran here and there mean nothing when it comes to proving something. Write an article in support of your beliefs, and I am sure that MR. MA Khan will publish your thoughts. If you have the guts to prove the above Challenge, well and good, if not stop spamming this site. Because this site is not a personal fiefdom of anybody (unlike your Islamic sites where people like us are not even given a choice to raise our opinions), it belongs to all those who have the courage who dare to stand up to untruth and falsehood. If you have it in you to prove that your ideology is true come forward. If you can't, it means that you converted to Islam without properly studying it and thus your conversion was out of gullibility and your apathy for your former religion. Prove us wrong and as the Challenge goes on this site, it will be closed.

Name: Rao the Appologist, all Rhetoric no beef!
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 10:38:07 -0500

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Rao Said "Further you for got why certain animals like dogs can hear the so called dog whistle but humans cant? When God created man with a brain and some still with one who cannot use it? Its mankind’s duty to use it to Acquire knowledge for the benefits of the human race with his or her limited capacity, rather than been selfish and terminating the human race through deception" Okay you here come with circular reasoning, rather answer questions you put forward more question to counter the intended questions. This is a typical tact of the creationists, especially the Muslims. Let me answer your questions. I doubt if you will understand the answer given your level of intellect. Dogs can hear the sound of the whistle because of genetics. They dogs evolved in a way that they developed the capacity to hear sounds at very low frequencies. This is what Evolution is all about. All humans have brains, some are evil others are not. There are a variety of reasons for this, it could be upbringing, peer pressure, excessive X chromosomes, etc or "Islamicaly speaking it is the will of Allah, or Allah had put the desire to do evil in the heart of the person". Of course it is the duty of the Human race to spread truth and knowledge, and that is our aim here at Islam Watch. Perhaps it would do Muslims good if they abandon their goal of conquering the world and helping serve Humanity. However this is not possible till the time they keep serving a man, who was the worst of creation. Now then can I have the answer to my Question Mr. Rao. Because according to science nipples just the appendix is a vestigial organ in males. It has stopped serving its purpose in the due course of evolution. Sadly if your Allah had given the cure for major diseases like AIDS, cancer, etc, we would have gladly believed in Islam, rather what Muhammad created was a creed of terrorists, pedophiles, mass murderers, misogamists, ignorant, rapists, killers, lechers........the list is endless.

Name: RE:Just for the record and to rebut your argument. 2
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 13:23:36 -0500

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funny how your to second comment already answer the first one. :) quran said during mens woman is sick,unclean,hurt,illness and other meaning. you read this as during period women should not be touch as dogs,kafir and pigs. while in second comment you said prophet touch aisyah, fondle her, BUT NOT HAVE SEX during the time. that is the true meaning of the ayaat. we can touch women,dogs and pig and of course we can touch you ( unless you dont want to :)) we just cant have sex with women during period, we cant touch dog saliva, we cant eat pig. and we cant be REAL friend with kafir( difficult when both side saying other will torture in hell :)). but think this. IF what you interpret on ayaat "Kill those who believe neither in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger" are true on all condition and not just war time, why there still kafir now? you all will be extinc hundreds years ago, when we lead the civilization of the world. think about it!!

Name: Non Muslim
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 13:50:16 -0500

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This muslim calling himself Truth (Pravda in Russian and we know what kind of truth this was) slanders the innocent victims of the pedophile prophet by turning them into the culprits. Pray tell me Truth, what was the crime of Umm Qirfa Fatima, a very old woman, so brutally murdered by the henchmen of the pedophile mass murderer?

Name: Joe
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 14:29:26 -0500

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"Truth" - Perhaps the Jews rejected Mohammed because he was bastardizing their own religion. Doesn't Allah say something like a person who saves a life saves the world? Well, a rabbi said that three centuries before Allah. The Old Testament does say that people should be wary of false prophets, like Mohammed for instance.

Name: Pathfinder
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 15:32:58 -0500

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Today a friend told me that a very learned and respected Islamic scholar had recently told that nowhere in the Koran Allah permits muslims to kill innocent people, be them nonbelievers. I never wanted to argue with my friend but told him that he should check the Koran himself. So this is the kind of lies muslims are prepared to tell to fool those who do not know Islam. No wonder they do it so easily. Their prophet was their teacher.

Name: muslim=anti christ
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 18:28:47 -0500

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jesus christ had predicted evolve of islam and muhammad antichrist.it is our duty as christians to rip muslim stomach and predate their family as ruthless as possible. we must pave jesus path to the earth . i warn you to muslim motherfuckers we give you a bad side of life and send u to hell for god consent.our group will increase every day and final war between us(christians)and muslim will occur.we clean the earth from muslims(shittest animals of world) the time is over!!!

Name: QWER to muslim=anti christ
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 21:58:25 -0500

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If you think "Jesus is Te Greatest" or "Christian is the one and best path", so you are typical with islam. Do you?

Name: RE:muslim=anti christ
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 23:37:22 -0500

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I dont totally disagree, with you. Love and compassion is not for those who dont understand it.

Name: Spiritualism
Date: Monday December 22, 2008
Time: 23:51:46 -0500

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The ultimate truth is within one self.Approach a living Master who can enable one to meditate.Do meditation regularly and one can find god within one self. What is required is not to lie,steal,aspire for others wealth or women and help others in whatever little way in case the other people are willing to take your help.Otherwise be at peace with yourself.For becoming spiritual you can belong to any religion but rituals can be ignored

Name: Prasad Rao- God Bless India
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 00:59:14 -0500

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God bless India is not supposed to be against the tenets of Islam. Muslims do not have to consult imams before posting comments! Most criminals cannot digest the saying “those problems in the World started after Jews went back to their ancestral land”. The Islamic invasion of Persia, Afghanistan, Egypt, India, Mesopotamia, Syria, and Spain.... began as these countries were plotting to destroy Islam, unlike the modern day invaders who do it to make their respective industries and corporations profitable by cheating mankind. I will answer your question about Nipples provided you give me a logical answer as to why mankind with brains do not use it, why don’t they use them eh..? Your comments about 9.29 the answer is given from 9.31 to 9.35. The Jews and Christians took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah, and they also took as their Lord, The Messiah, son of Mary, while the Jews and Christians were commanded in the Torah) and the Gospel to worship none but One God - Allah (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, far above is He from having the partners they associate with Him." (9:31) The disbelievers, the Jews and the Christians want to extinguish Allah's Light with which Muhammad has been sent - Islamic Monotheism with their mouths, but Allah will not allow except that His Light should be perfected even though the disbelievers hate it. (9:32) It is He Who has sent Muhammad with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah hate it (9:33) O you who believe! Verily, there are many of the Jewish rabbis and the Christian monks who devour the wealth of mankind in falsehood, and hinder them from the Way of Allah, And those who hoard up gold and silver the money, the Charity of which has not been paid, and spend it not in the Way of Allah, -announce unto them a painful torment. (9:34) On the Day when that money, gold and silver, etc., the charity of which has not been paid will be heated in the Fire of Hell and with it will be branded their foreheads, their flanks, and their backs, and it will be said unto them "This is the treasure which you hoarded for yourselves. Now taste of what you used to hoard.” (9:35) To those who have the courage who dare to stand up to untruth and falsehood. Your time in this world is only temporary. It is high time you choose from Allah’s way or the Devil path, who also disobeyed Allah. "Islamicaly speaking it is the will of Mankind, Allah has given the choice to man, if he follows the laws of Allah mankind will go to the strait path, while if he disobeys the Teachings of Allah he will go the wrong way and continuously be in error". Of course it is the duty of the Human race to spread truth and knowledge, and that is our aim to show that Allah has sent numerous prophets to mankind to guide him to the right path and so that mankind could continue the tradition of good works to human race unlike those who do not take Allah’s laws rather their own selfish laws which only benefit their own desires not Mankind’s. Muslims Never conquered lands for wealth unlike the present day administrators. Man is only the worst of creation if he disobeys his creator’s law but becomes the best of creations if he uses the laws of Allah to the benefit of all Humans. That’s why the prophet said “who ever saves a humanbeing is like he who has saved all mankind and he who destroys a humanbeing is like that who wants to destroy the world. The Jewish Leaders back then rejected Mohammed because he preaching that all life comes from Allah and in the end return to Allah. And none has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Allah has not permitted Muslims to kill innocent people, be them nonbelievers. Killing is only permitted for self-defense. The Messiah, son of Mary had predicted evolve antichrist, Even Muslims are waiting for the antichrist who they refer to Dajjal and This Dajjal will get humans to worship himself as God. The Prophet of Islam said that Allah will send Christ for the second coming to eliminate the antichrist and will rule the Muslims. The Messiah, son of Mary will continue the teachings of the Prophet of Islam end will further teach mankind that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Why should I write to MA Khan to give his feedback when I am trying to enlighten your errors which you are misquoting.

Name: christian-muslims=evil terrorist
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 01:48:48 -0500

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in srimad bhagwat puran written 5000 yrs ago,lord ved vyas clearly tells that in the kaliyug-age-there will be many charlatans and liar making false claims to be the only god,messenger etc.these people will be bellite the truth,freedom,love etc principals of humanity,and instead put their own fake brand of religion based on hate for all others.jesus says bow to me alone or i burn u in hell forever.allah=muhamad says bow to me alone or i burn u in hell forever.they dont care for love,compassion,truth,karma etc...just bow to gangster-jesuis/allah=muhamed or burn in hell.this is the basic theory of christianity/islam.

Name: koran is imperfect so also its message is hate absed
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 01:51:56 -0500

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if a book is from a true-perfect god,it must be without error,but truth is that there r many scientific errors in koran,which r proven time and again,so no need for me to go through it again and again.but these errors prove that koran is false book created by arabs with limited knowledge.even 10th standard physics,biology etc books contain more accurate facts than koran.THERE IS NO PIG BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMAS IS HIS POO-POO.

Name: To narrow-minded fellow who can't tell Islam from Christianity
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 02:53:47 -0500

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You better do a thorough research on Christianity and Judaism before equating them with Islam. Don't you know Christians and Jews are the avowed enemies of Islam? Research first before you judge.

Name: basic ideology of christianity is same : bow to gangster jesus or burn in imaginary hell forever
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 03:08:09 -0500

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basic ideology of christianity is same : bow to gangster jesus or burn in imaginary hell forever.so even if u never sdinned,but did not bow to dead man on stick jesus, or eat his flesh or drink his blood [ cannibalism ] u go to hell.gandhi as per chrtsinaity is hell bound and bush like osama will go to imaginary heaven bound.this is essence of christianity.

Name: mumbai attacks and islamic jihad...an eye opening for hindus
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 03:09:48 -0500

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mumbai attacks were eye opening for hindus.now more and more hindus r seeing judaism-christianioty inspired islam for what it is : raw hate for all other,they have woken up people and its sad that 300+ people had to die for ot.i hope the blood does not go in vain and islam is defeated along with its affiliated religions who have same hate based ideology.

Name: Volvo
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 04:13:58 -0500

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I should mention that according to "tha Sword of Muhammad" Muhammad had 26 opponents murdered. Ibn Ishaq in his "life of Muhammad"(Sirat) names 10 of them. Also see www.1000mistakes.com

Name: RE:mumbai attacks and islamic jihad...an eye opening for hindus
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 04:35:06 -0500

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How is Judaism and Christianity responsible for what Islamic terrorists do? care to explain?

Name: To misinformed anti-Christian
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 05:25:12 -0500

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--"basic ideology of christianity is same : bow to gangster jesus or burn in imaginary hell forever.so even if u never sdinned,but did not bow to dead man on stick jesus, or eat his flesh or drink his blood."--Can you pinpoint exactly the verse that says so in the Bible. Either you are a misinformed fellow about Christianity or you are a protege of Islamic Jihad deliberately sowing discord and division among infidels.

Name: to: Prasad Rao from Bill
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 05:25:59 -0500

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You seem to be a fair individual who is acting with good intentions. I would like to bring up several counter points to your posts. 1) Holocaust denial- i am Lithuanian christian and half of my ancenstors were gassed by the nazis. Russians brought them to the camp. It happened. 2) israel-terrorist state created? Yet you mention it was their ancestral home. Why cant it be now? Because Islam once owned it? I guess we better give spain to the moors as well! 3) islams wars were defensive-is it defensive because they were freeing people they thought were oppresses and needed to be brought into islam? Kafirs might say thats offensive war. Did you know the walls around the vatican were specifically built to repel muslim invaders in italy. Go on wikipedia and look up and look up "islamic conquests". 4). Superiority of Islam- why is over half the quran and haddith about the kafir and Allah's disdain for him. No other religion even comes close to the amount of negativity directèd to the òther. Why is Allah so worried about the òther guy? The bible's message is love for all. Allah not once said he loved the kafir only how much they should be hated. If islam is so superior why does the islamic world have one of the highest illeteracy rates, highest infant mortality rates, lowest Human developement indexs, and lowest GDP per capita in the world. Colonialism, imperialism, and the West had their negative impacts but it is noteworthy that about the time islamic expansion was brought to a halt was also the end of the 'islamic Golden Age." in addition it was also át this time that many islamic scholars were declaring philosophy(áristotle-critical thinking) as haram because it was viewed as a threat to Islam. I hope you see my statements/questiòns not as an attack but a sincere effort towards presenting a different View point. I am not an ignorant kafir but one who has read the quran, haddith, and countless òther works. Wishing you all the best.

Name: to : muslim i ask u,pls stick to koran and tell me is it perfect or imperfect ??
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 06:54:01 -0500

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a god is supposed to be perfect and so also his book written by him to be pergect with no errors,but koran has lots of scientific errors,so its proven its written by arabs who had no true knowledge of world.u r twisting and turning things to suit yr thinking.but this is truth : gandhi the apostle of peace gets to go to hell,but killer like osama,get wine and virgins in imaginary paradise,this is totally unfair and thus it proves islam is unfair and anti truth.

Name: WINE IN JANNAT IS HALAL, BUT ON EARTH IS HARAM...WHY??
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 06:55:56 -0500

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wine with virgins in jannat is halal,but on earth is halal.if u kill infidels u get virgins for sex in jannat.this is wrotten in koran/hadith,this proves koran is hate based.

Name: VERY IMPORTANT : http://www.santabanta.com/newsmaker.asp
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 06:57:37 -0500

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VERY IMP : http://www.santabanta.com/newsmaker.asp..................Mumbai terrorists promised sex with virgin in heaven The lone surviving terrorist of the Mumbai terror attack Ajmal Amir Kasab has admitted that he along with his militant partners were lured into the terrorist camps by the Pakistan army officers as they were made to believe that the ‘Jehad’ in which they are going to take part will offer them a chance to put an end to their quest for ‘holy virgins’. The 10 Pakistan terrorists who attacked Mumbai were indoctrinated by the Pakistan terror establishment. Jehad-for Virgins Scam was used to cheat teenage muslims to become terrorist. During the training Pakistan Army officers and Lashkar-e-Toiba commanders repeatedly told the terrorists that the moment you are killed in the Jehad against India in Mumbai attack, your body will emit divine glow and an intoxicating fragrance, before the body rises to heaven, to enjoy sex with beautyful virgins waiting for you, The Political Party.com quoted Kasab’s confession with the Mumbai Anti-Terror Squad (ATS). Kasab now believes that Jehad is an unholy quest for sex withy virgins in heaven. According to Political Party.com Kasab was horrified to see the dead bodies of his colleagues killed in the Mumbai attacks. Kasab is now accusing the Pakistan army officers and Lashkar commanders of cheating the teenager terrorists with promise of sex with beautiful virgins in the heaven, as reported by the Political Party.com

Name: Religionless
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 06:58:58 -0500

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After reading all these posts, I am more convinced that Man created god to explain the inexplicable. But each man believes that the god invented by his forefathers is true and all others are false. That is because his /her parents/teachers brainwash. Some at a later date due to difficulties in their religion embrace others and proclaim what they have done is correct. Remember the story of a fox which gets its tail dyed because it falls in to a paint pot and tells all should have their tails dyed. True each religion has many good thinkers to help humanity. But to kill to establish one's religion is inhuman. How could a god who is beneficent and merciful tolerate such acts? Why is this god- he she or it not protecting the innocents? All that a human being should believe is HELPING OTHERS IS VIRTUE AND HARMING OTHERS IS SIN. If only all religious fanatics understand this world could be aa better place to live. Some posts spit venom. People use brains if they can. If they cant they use their muscle or tongue. Mr. Rao, you appear to be a convert without application of mind. Converts are more dangerous than originals. Mallik Kafir distroyed more temples and killed more Hindus than any Moslem invader.

Name: MUMBAI JIHADI WAS PROMISED WINE AND VIRGINS BY PAKIS ARMY OFFICERS !!!!!
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 07:01:15 -0500

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MUMBAI JIHADI WAS PROMISED WINE AND VIRGINS BY PAKIS ARMY OFFICERS !!!!! , http://www.santabanta.com/newsmaker.asp , Mumbai terrorists promised sex with virgin in heaven The lone surviving terrorist of the Mumbai terror attack Ajmal Amir Kasab has admitted that he along with his militant partners were lured into the terrorist camps by the Pakistan army officers as they were made to believe that the ‘Jehad’ in which they are going to take part will offer them a chance to put an end to their quest for ‘holy virgins’. The 10 Pakistan terrorists who attacked Mumbai were indoctrinated by the Pakistan terror establishment. Jehad-for Virgins Scam was used to cheat teenage muslims to become terrorist. During the training Pakistan Army officers and Lashkar-e-Toiba commanders repeatedly told the terrorists that the moment you are killed in the Jehad against India in Mumbai attack, your body will emit divine glow and an intoxicating fragrance, before the body rises to heaven, to enjoy sex with beautyful virgins waiting for you, The Political Party.com quoted Kasab’s confession with the Mumbai Anti-Terror Squad (ATS). Kasab now believes that Jehad is an unholy quest for sex withy virgins in heaven. According to Political Party.com Kasab was horrified to see the dead bodies of his colleagues killed in the Mumbai attacks. Kasab is now accusing the Pakistan army officers and Lashkar commanders of cheating the teenager terrorists with promise of sex with beautiful virgins in the heaven, as reported by the Political Party.com

Name: TO : RELIGIONLESS-U DONT WANT TO ENJOY THE SEXY VIRGINS SO GET LOST
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 07:11:19 -0500

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TO : RELIGIONLESS-U DONT WANT TO ENJOY THE SEXY VIRGINS SO GET LOST,i am willing to kill innocent hindu christian jew kids men and women and enjoy the sex slaves as per holy book,u just shut up.i am getting ready for jihad now,my suicide vest is ready,the explosives r ready,i have done all this just to get the wine and virgins if i kill kafirs...hey what is this loose wire in the jacket,let me cheack......uh ohhh...oh no.....BBOOOOMMMMMMM !!!! [ HAHAHA JUST A SATIRE ]

Name: wine here is haram but halal in paradise.ok what about pig meat?
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 11:39:13 -0500

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wine here is haram but halal in paradise.ok what about pig meat?Stupid and cheat Mo just fooled then ignorent arabs.

Name:
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 11:54:39 -0500

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I can't believe someone would claim John Esposito of Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal center for Muslim-Christian understanding is not a Muslim apologist. Let's not kid ourselves. "The Jews do not deny in anyway that Arabs were there for centuries and the Palestinians tribes lived there even long before the Jews arrived." - Guess again. Just as you claimed Arafat was a Jersalemite when he born in Cairo and raised in Egypt, we think alot of you are full of shit. Same with Edward Said, whose parents are Lebanese and who raised him in Egypt, the fact that he as born in Jerusalem doesn't make him a Palestinian anymore than a white person born in Africa black.

Name: Re:RE:mumbai attacks and islamic jihad...an eye opening for hindus
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 14:42:54 -0500

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Hindus (at least the ones on this site) are obviously very bitter over the fact they keep getting beaten by the Muslims and only have the internet to anonymously lash out at other people, while their government sits on its collective thumbs. The US has bombed and killed 20+ Pakistanis since the Mumbai bombings while Hindu politicians like Pranab Mukherjee kiss Islamic ass. I guess I would pray for the death of Jews and Christians if I had to face that reality. Well maybe I wouldn't. I don't hold it against Hindus that so many of their ancestors cowardly bent over for the Arabs and their descendents threaten the West with terrorism and crime today.

Name: muslim=antichrist
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 15:08:51 -0500

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plzz notice to my worlds.some centuries ago muslims tasted christian,s power in crusades wars.and we had a good warlord named richard. and we had a powerful religion. and when people such as voltair and other philosophers weakened christianity(religion of peace and true religion) god enraged from us and now with coward that say we must give freedom to all religions we saw results of our weaks. muslims emigrate to our countries and dare to kill our people(van gough for example) and dare to mock our values and our way of life.when we wake up? when we belive in christ for our save? if you want to leave christianity and become atheist or another thing .here you are. you must bow against islam and live in misery. there is no choice . or live in jesus christ realm and enjoy all of good things or such as judas(traitor to christ) have a terrible life.

Name: to : christian,pls tell me what happen to eprson who does not bow to jesus alone ?
Date: Tuesday December 23, 2008
Time: 20:29:46 -0500

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landoverbaptist.com is a joke site making fun of christian fundamentalists. how stupid can you be?

Name: lw1
Date: Wednesday December 24, 2008
Time: 07:29:56 -0500

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The person who says that the Prophet Mohammed never hated mankind including those called kafirs is going completely against the main message of Quran. That message has led to killing many millions of non-believers (among other atrocities). With that habit of killing and other violence, Muslims kill even Muslims at the mosque of different sects. Except for Northrn Ireland I can't recall Christians killing Christians in recent times. Christianity has moved on , so should Islam.

Name: To this inquiring fellow
Date: Wednesday December 24, 2008
Time: 11:55:24 -0500

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--"to : christian,pls tell me what happen to eprson who does not bow to jesus alone ?"--Look at the Jews for the answer, they have rejected Jesus.

Name: ur mothers pusy
Date: Friday December 26, 2008
Time: 08:47:44 -0500

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u are all mutha fukers u mutha fuken dogs ur mums are sluts dat suck da holy spirits dick .and this website is bullshit because no muslim will become a cristian dog guess wat yous are all gunna burn in hell at least in our religion we are taught to respect all other religions so may god not have mursey on ur souls u fuken lying dogs all ur dads are all scums and ur mums became pregnent because they were working as pprostitutes in a brothel that doesnt charge money so piss on yous bitches :P

Name: lw1 to Prasad Rao.
Date: Friday December 26, 2008
Time: 12:22:58 -0500

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The Germans built the gas chambers and killed not only Jews but others totalling about 6 million.Germans as a nation have apologised for this. Everybody knows how difficult it is to say sorry,so are you saying that Germans are lying when they are apologising? Also can you give name/s of of the book/s where you read that Islamic invasion of Persia,Afghanistan,Egypt,India,Mesopotamia,Syria and Spain began as these countries were plotting to destroy Islam? You as a Muslim are saying 'God bless India',but Muslims in India have objected to saying 'Vande Mataram'- (I bow to my Motherland).

Name: To: Truth<< From : Ibn Kammuna
Date: Saturday December 27, 2008
Time: 17:18:47 -0500

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Hello. First, you are rude. Your comments show that. Second, you have mine and Mr. Lone's research article in front of you. Take anything we said, analyze it, and show us that we are wrong. I challenge you to do that my friend, instead of calling us rats. If we find out we were mistaken in our analysis and views, we will write a retraction to what we claimed. Fair enough! But please do it with a well-mannered language. No name-calling or rude expressions please. Filthy language is the specialty of True Muslims, who just want to defend Islam no matter what. Prove us wrong on this front and show us that you can be civil in your writing. By the way, we wish you a Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

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