Pakistan's Slide into the Abyss of Darkness
13 Sep, 2007
- Because of the above reasons, Pakistan today once again descended into the atmosphere of political instability, never seen before. Fanaticism and hate for the people of other sects and faiths, and encouragement of such a tendency have landed Pakistan in such a precarious situation that it has created worries and division not only among the people of Pakistan, but also its neighboring countries, particularly India and Afghanistan and even America. The dream of the former military ruler Zia-Ul-Haq to turn Pakistan into a land of fundamental Islamic principles has finally come true. Pakistan has become the centre for the fundamentalists and a major breeding ground for the terrorists.. All countries of the world and especially the neighbors India and Afghanistan are fed up with the fact that terrorists, who have been attacking them, get asylum and training in Pakistan. And now these terrorists have gone out of control of Pakistan's ruling machinery, who can even defy its powerful military power. In future, it is likely that Pakistan will be the great loser because of these activities.
Recently, the military operation Sunrise against the Red Mosque in Karachi, which had become the fortress of suicidal militant Islamists, including large number of women, is enough to make one understand that Pakistan is in deep trouble and is suffering from the monster of its own creation. After the military action against the Mosque, the terrorists have successfully aimed at the defense targets. All this makes it evident that Islamic terrorists have consolidated their powers to the extent that it is difficult for the government to control them. Recently, a report published in Afghanistan revealed that most of the terrorists operating there come from Pakistan or have received training there. It has also been speculated that Al-Qaeda chief Osama Bin Laden has gotten asylum somewhere in Pakistan.
Anyhow it is sufficient to understand that Pakistan is near its own destruction. The condition may blow up anytime. At this juncture, the anxiety for the world is that if the extremists or the like-minded fundamental religionists grab power in Pakistan, what will be the fate of nuclear weapons in its possession? If these weapons go into the hands of inhuman fanatics, who believe that by kill innocent people they qualify themselves to land in the Islamic paradise ― what would happen to the security situation of the world. This issue has become a point of global concern.
In the midst of this serious political volatility in Pakistan, there is a growing and vigorous struggle for capturing the power by various vested political quarters. General Parvez Musharraf's stern actions against the terrorists have made the fundamentalists and even the wider Muslim community of the country angry. The dismissal of Chief Justice Iftikhar Choudhary has spoiled the political atmosphere in Pakistan. The reinstatement of Justice Choudhary, who was widely supported by the fundamentalists, has given a clear indication that General Musharraf is loosing power to fundamentalist forces. Taking advantage of this political turmoil, the exiled former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif last week attempted to enter the country after seven years to reap political gains, which also puts more hurdles before General Musharraf. On the other side, Benazir Bhutto is also trying to take advantage of the situation by initiating talks with General Musharraf for reaping political benefits.
There is little disagreement that, not only in Pakistan, but everywhere in the world, the democratic forces must hold political power. Yet, in Pakistan, General Musharraf has undoubtedly taken steps against the dangerous terrorists, never taken before. Neither any elected Prime Minister nor any military ruler has taken such an initiative as dared by General Musharraf. Neither is it likely that an elected government will be able to take necessary stark measures against these intractable religious fanatics. Although these measures are absolutely essential, the militant Islamists, have been accusing General Musharraf of doing all these under pressure from America. There have been a widespread and perennial anti-American feeling in all Muslim countries and Bush administration 'war on terror' ― which Muslims see as an war on Islam ― have fueled anti-American sentiments among Muslims at all level of the society further. Politicians of ideological leanings in Pakistan are exploiting this anti-American feeling among the public to turn them against Musharraf.
In this condition, the political future of Pakistan seems descending into the abyss of darkness. The most important matter of concern is that of the nuclear weapons which must not go into the hands of the extremists. It is feared that if General Musharraf is ousted from power, those weapons may fall into the hands of the fundamentalists. The support of Jamaat-e-Islami fundamentalists, during Nawaz Sharif's unsuccessful attempt to land in Pakistan, points to a widening nexus of political power of the Islamists.
The welfare of Pakistan, lies in the fact that, it does not come under the control of conservatives and communal Islamist terrorist forces. Given the precarious situation that Pakistan is in at this time, the political control should be in the hands of those, be a political party or a military general, who must be secular and able to stand up to these dangerous terrorist forces. It will not be in the long-term interest of Pakistan if Nawaz Sharif captures power with the help of the fundamentalists.
Tanveer Jafri is a columnist from India, who have published actively in popular daily news papers and webportals portals in India and abroad. He is a member of Haryana Sahitya Academy and Haryana Urdu Academy. He is also a recipient of so many awards in the field of Communal Harmony & other social activities. he can be contacted at tanveerjafriamb@yahoo.com.
Name: Ananda
Date: Wednesday September 12, 2007
Time: 21:32:11 -0700
Comment
Tanveer Jafri is delusional. Musharraf may be secular, majority in Pakistan most certainly is not. Muslims love to mention Pakistani nuclear bomb, frequently. May be Muslims can nuke India, one nuke. I wonder if India would start searching the guilty party for prosecution in a court of law. I don't think so. Nukes are not like car bombs. If that was the case, Pakistan would have already nuked India and Israel. In short, before Pakistan lends its nukes to an Islamic terrorist group, it better dig deep trenches.
Name: vbv
Date: Wednesday September 12, 2007
Time: 23:08:55 -0700
Comment
Pakistan was created by muslim fanatics and their British supporters to cut India down to size ,not only literally but also in a figurative sense to give India a perenial headache and an ever-festering wound that would see India never to rise economically and politically. The calculations of the erstwhile colonial rulers ,however, did not fully succeed despite the frequent wars and skirmishes with Pakistan over the last six decades. The British are having their hands full now as the policy has backfired on them.Pakistan was an illegal creation ,whose history is just 60 years,while un divided India has a very long history of over 7 millenia. We still have the remnants of the Saraswati-Sindhu Civilization in a land swearing by an alien Arabic culture, a direct insult to our common ancestors who gave such wonderful urbane settlements such as Mohenjadharo, Harrappa, KotDiji, Lothal,etc. , while the contemporary Bedouins of Arabia around the same time wouldn't have had a proper lingo to communicate with each other,maybe a little better than apes. I don't want to denigrate the apes comparing them with arab and islam ,maybe bandicoots/tasmanian devils ?Or even worse. It is an insult that pakistanis have abandoned their rich cultural heritage to adopt a cruel,violent and barbaric arabic culture. Will there be peace in Pakistan or its neighbourhood? I don't think so ,not until they reinvent themselves to inculcate religious pluralism and tolerance as their cultural ethos,and give up the idea that they can annex more territories from India in the cause of advancing islam. But looking at the present scenario,all this seems an improbable dream.The stark reality is that the fundamentalists are going to take over Pakistan in the near future ,talibanize the whole country,try export talibanism to India(their favourite target),probably nuke India in the process.........such possibilities are frighteningly real! Pak has the warheads and also the delivery system from China and North Korea.I think Ananda is wrong to say that Pakistan would have already bombed India and Israel,if they had the capabilty. It is the massive aid and grants from the USA and other western countries that is tying their itchy hands from pushing the button. Let the Mullahs take over Pakistan,then you will see the unprecedented turmoil and bloodshed and the horrors of islamisation that will be worse than the Talibans of Afghanistan.We Indians will have to bear the brunt of human misery overflowing from our hopeless neighbour!
Name: tanveer is not a true muslim
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 00:13:58 -0700
Comment
tanveer is not a true muslim,which ever muslim wants peace with non muslims is anti islam.in koran allah himself ask to the muslims to fight non muslims. anyway it is proven fact that islam is man created religion. allah is non existant. man is evolved and is carbon based life form. man is not created from mud/dust which only pigs like by allah. tanveer wake up,and see the truth.
Name: MA Khan ------->>> vbv
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 01:59:31 -0700
Comment
"Pakistan was created by muslim fanatics and their British supporters to cut India down to size..." You have agreed that the British helped the Hindus to get rid of Muslim domination. Else, you will be paying Jiziyah till today in one form or another. You know or not, Kazi Mughisuddin of Sultan Alauddin's court (BTW, Indian left-communists consider Allauddin a true 'socialist') prescribed that after a Hindu dhimmi have paid the jiziyah, he must open his mouth so that the tax-collector can spit into the sinful Hindu's mouth. I think, the British did save a lot of indignity and humanity for the Hindus, which is liitle appreciated. I also feel that British did another great thing, but least appreciated, is the division of India. India have difficulty handling 150 million Muslims. Think about three times that number combined. In another half a century, a democratic India coudl well have been in the hands of Muslims agains. And Hindus pay jiziyah. I personally advise you handle the few Muslims left in India. It would be nonsensical for any Indian Hindu to ask for more Muslims in their country.
Name: sm
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 03:17:10 -0700
Comment
Hopefully the moderates lead by Mush succeed
Name: allat
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 11:24:40 -0700
Comment
vbv is absolutely right! The Brits gave India a Parthian shot. This is called revenge and royal hate. ----------- Sm: There is no such thing as a moderate islamic. The moderates look on, while the fundamentalists riot. They are accomplices, as well as letting the violent slime to the dirty work. The Turk is right: There is no such thing as Moderate Islam.
Name: allat
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 11:34:53 -0700
Comment
I also want to add, that I notice that, THAT is why India is in the state it's in- of poverty, because any time, the industrious Hindus built up, the islamics destroy. So how much manpower and money can be spent on this up... down ...up....down debacle? Yeah, the neglected, ancient Temples - those covered over in the jungle and in the cities -are NOT that way because of the passing of the centuries. (An aside: THe same with the Egyptian Temples - the a-y-r-a-bs don't kept them up JUST because they're Egyptians and love their history - but for the lucre from the tourist trade. In fact, the Egyptians of today, are NOT the same as the Ancients. IOf it weren't for the tourists, all the monuments and articles in their museusm would have been destroyed, long ago, as the islamics there HATE the "Others" ).
Name: kafir/infidel
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 12:06:12 -0700
Comment
This is addressed mainly to all those people - who are deeply honest, sincere & with clear, pure conscience mixed with kindness, compassion, determined to make this world a better place for fellow humans (brotherhood), democrats, peace, freedom loving, most tolerant & undogmatic. Undoubtedly ,the formation of pakistan is the most unnatural, most wicked, evil deed filled with demonism, by appealing to the baser instincts of humans - in this case well planned & perpetrated by the most evil minded ISLAMISTS & aided & abetted by Britishers to keep INDIA (HINDUS) weighed down forever. This is even infinitly when one thinks the historical facts- that ISLAM ( MUSLIMS) came from out-side as marauding murderous invaders, looting, destroying (thousands of temples were razed & mosques built on them) plundering, raping, killing, forcibly converting, subjugating-enslaving & finally ruling INDIA for nearly 800 yrs. With the arrival of ISLAM - the down fall of INDIA ( INDIANS ) started. Under ISLAM people became helpless,slaves,lost their soul not knowing what to do- how to get liberated ? Finally, when Gandhi ( a really noble soul )came on the scene to work for independence from British - obviously Gandhi was intimidated & helpless to deal with the most barbaric, inhuman, violent prone ISLAMISTS - this was evident from the fact that GAndhi at each & every stage of independence struggle gave in to the blackmail, intransigence, intimidating tactics of ISLAMISTS. Gandhi never has the boldness to oppose the evil demands of Moslems. Thus- even though INDIA has nothing to do with khilafat movement in the faraway place like Turkey - Gandhi supported this religious demand !!!!!! What conscience he has ? Gandhi supported many other evil,narrow ,divisive,harmful ( to the rest of INDIA) demands of Moslems. Finally Gandhi has to cave in to the monster demand of division of INDIA on religious lines by Jinnah , rahmat Ali, Iqbal & other Evil ISLAMISTS, despite the fact that Gandhi swore by unity of INDIA . By appeasing to the evil demands of ISLAMISTS - & ultimately for the division of INDIA, Gandhi gave a life saving tonic for the evil cult called ISLAM . At the same time, Gandhi gave a devastating blow to the noble HINDUS ( INDIANS ),from which they are still groaping hopelessly to find an anchor in their own motherland. Formation of PAKISTAN as the most fundamentalist-wicked country based on sharia -hoddood laws, has given new ammunition, new lease of life to the most inhuman ,cruel, barbaric ISLAMISTS. As pointed out by MR. M A KHAN - the other silver lining for the division of INDIA is that INDIA got rid of the most evil theology on the face of this good earth. Mr. Khan has his own optimistic explanation ( merely). As one can see from the past 60 yrs history - ISLAMISTS-Moslems are subverting from with in INDIA . Added to this mix is the other fascist - antinational -antiHINDU - GODLESS Communists, Always waiting for even the smallest opportunity to proselytize, convert, subverting christian missionaries, and the somewhat antinational congress - all combine to create a favourable ground for the divisive, antinational, theology driven MOSLEMS/ISLAMISTS. Formation of PAKISTAN is one of the most gruesome, wickedest thing done by humans by their maniopulation. Moslems - who came from outside - ruled INDIA for 800 yrs- how can they divide the country ? The victims were INDIANS (HINDUS ).Perpetrators were Moslems. Thus INDIA (HINDUS) were the biggest losers in the annals of human history. PAKISTAN stole INDIAN (HINDU ) land by force ,blackmail, intimidation ,threat of civil war ( for which Gandhi was afraid & gave in to the wicked demons of ISLAMISTS). Moslems had no legal, ethical, moral right to divide INDIA- but they succeeded by their most wicked mindset/tactics - floting this so called explanation of 2 nation theory !!!! ISLAMIST psyche is such cruel, inhuman, intolerant, dogmatic, hatefilled, fascist in nature. How can PAKISTAN be called democratic ? By the very fact that it was formed on religious demand makes it antidemocratic, intolerant, dogmatic, narrow, inhuman, fascist country. PAKI- SATAN is called as ISLAMIC emirates ( ISLAMIC republic ) with ISLAMIC laws,rule & quran as the arbiter in their society,lives. PAKISTAn can never be & must not be called as democratic - until it dismantles the ISLAMIC state - & introduce & put in place - a secular, democratic ,humanist liberal constitution, adopting international humanistic standards & human rights. As long as Paki-SATAN is ISLAMIC theocracy - it canot be &must not be a democratic, freedom, peace loving liberal humanist country with equality to all humans. ISLAM do not accept equality of all people , even ISLAMIC sects, women &children. one can see SAUDI, PAKI & Afghanistan rule under Taliban/Al qaeda. Formation of PAKI - STAN in 1947 with the connivance of western & British has sowed the seeds for the emergence of Taliban/Al Qaeda terrorism of today. Basic & core values, tenets of ISLAM will not accept equality, freedom, peace, democracy, liberty, liberalism. ISLAM is intolerant of other faiths & also extremely hostile . Mr.M A KHAN's theory ( idea ) would have been correct - had the country of INDIA was divided on religious basis into HINDU & ISLAMIC country - neatly - by allowing all Muslims going to PAKI-SATAN & all (only) Hindus live in INDIA . Alas it did not happen. Now INDIA is stuck with her follies ( mainly by congress- Gandhi-Nehru ) - allowing Moslems to stay back & now getting special, preferential treatment - better than Hindus in present day INDIA. This has become an insoluble problem. But on the contrary - in ISLAMIC paki SATAN - the miniscule number of HINDUS, Sikhs, Christians are barely surviving with fear under the ISLAMIC rule . NObody is even talking about the plight of these wretched ,hopeless creatures. IS there not even a single Moslem with kindness, compassion, with pure conscience - liberal enough to talk & to stand for truth - rights of Hindus, Sikhs, christians in PAKI SATAN today ? This is exactly expected in an ISLAMIC country with Moslem Psyche. This also can be proved without any doubt by citing the example of the recent converts from christianity to ISLAM- about 6 to 7 cases that came to light . recent convert to ISLAM - like walker , Padilla, John Mo ham mad, 1 or 2 Afro -Americans ( BLACKS), Belgian woman- have become terrorists for AL qaeda !!!! This means that ISLAM makes a person really cruel, wicked, killer, murderer, rapist. How can this be possible? The purpose of religion is to make a person better with kindness, compassion, tolerant, accepting equality. But in ISLAM the opposite happened. As soon as they got converted - they became killers, terrorists, intolerant, hateful. What more proof is needed to show that ISLAM makes a person & turns him into a murderer- rapist? A HINDU or Buddhist or Jain can never do such bloodthirsty act.
Name: Marie
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 12:09:57 -0700
Comment
Pakistan was created to be a Muslim state to satisfy the Muslims who could not tolerate the nonmuslims in India. British support of building a Muslim state was a good idea and prevented the loss of lives in bloodshed that would have occurred if the Muslims and the Hindus were kept in the same state.
Name: Ananda ----> M.A.Khan
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 15:50:37 -0700
Comment
(M.A.Khan, you have got it right)--- The Hindus & India owe their life to the British, the British exploited India's economy but not their soul. Can you imagine what was happening in Bengal & all over India, how creativity & enterprise was being stifled by the Muslim overlords.---The British created the Universities, the Railways, and an emerging middle class.---Gandhi agreeing to partition (reluctantly) is the salvation of India, although he did not foresee it.---I am glad Pakistan & Bangladesh was created as home for Muslims, but I am perplexed why the Indian Muslims are not migrating there if they want to enjoy living in Islamic Paradise.---Finally, I would like to rename "Aurangabad" to "Ajanta" & "Allahabad" to "Proyag".
Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 22:29:31 -0700
Comment
To all: Many things that bedevill the INDIAN polity ( And PAKI society-polity has to be discussed & brought to light here, in an effort to enumerate facts & tell truth from the real history of ISLAM/ISLAMISTS-current/past. People of the present generation INDIANS do not know or analyze the politics in right perpective. . It was Muslim league ( political party established in INDIA to only serve on religious lines exclusively to Moslems ) that used to treat congress party & Gandhi with derision & contempt. ISLAMISTS/Muslim league never accepted congress party - for all people.They propagated congress as Hindu party & Gandhi as Hindu - not as a national leader,which was patently untrue. Muslim league first proposed to have separate electoral rolls in the name of religion - only for Moslems- which the British Govt accepted !!! Then , the ISLAMISTS/Muslim league put the demand for referrendum for partition of country ( INDIA) in which only Moslems were allowed to vote & Hindus denied their right. So here the result was foregone. As was expected - the MOslems overwhelmingly voted for division of INDIA !!!!!! It is mind boggling to note that why congress party,Gandhi,Britishers accepted such demonic plots of Muslim league !!!! It is also well known that Gandhi went on satyagraha to make the INDIAN Govt pay hundreds of crores of Rs to PAKISATAN. It is also well orchestrated ISLAMIC plot to loot ,plunder & finally occupie all the properties of HINDUS - who were fleeing their ancestral homes in the present day PAKI-SATAN & Bangladesh. Bangladesh ISLAMIC Govt officially ceased the properties of Hindus who fled the oppression,persecution !!!! One should also remember that chakma BUDDHISTS from Bangladesh who are persecuted & from Tibet,who are persecuted by CHINESE Reds, are provided & sheltered in INDIA , currently. INDIA ,always received & sheltered all those oppressed people - long time ago - the Jorastrians- parsis from IRAN,Jews from all middle eastern Moslem countries, Christians from syria - all of whom were driven out of their mother lands. All of them were given safe haven in INDIA by Hindus. Even now MS. Taslima Nazreen is awaiting for her citizenship in INDIA- But the present dispensation of congie- commy -ISLAMOfasict-christian missionary Govt is refusing her citizenship application- obviously they ( the INDIAN Govt)want to appease Moslems of INDIA & Bangladesh - becoz they are afraid of the consequences. Commie - west Bengal Govt even banned her books. INDIAN Govt must immediately give citizenship to Ms. TASLIMA Nazreen - becoz INDIA is a peace,freedom loving liberal secular democratic country. But in this case the Govt is flouting all the human values by denying her citizenship. . A movement in INDIA ,pakisatan,Bangladesh is urgently needed to wean away Moslems & make them denounce,renounce the demonic,bloodthirsty,violent,hate filled cult that is ISLAM. Eventhough this is late- at least some good hearted people ( Moslems)will live in peace ,happyness,harmoniously as part of civilized democratic,progressive,free modern liberal world with peace.Now, in PAKI SATAN , really demonic darkness acts are committed by ISLAMISTS - namely abduct young teen age Hindu girls - force them to accept ISLAM/rape them & once they accept under force- then they ( the girls are automatically treated as Moslems under sharia ISLAMIC edicts. Then the girls have no rights to say anything. This happened even in INDIAN A.P state in Hyderabad city !!!! But the Govt kept mum !!!!Oppression,suppression,persecution of Hindus is ongoing & very common in PAKI- satan & B'desh. No INDIAN Govt dared to raise these matters.
Name: vbv
Date: Thursday September 13, 2007
Time: 22:52:47 -0700
Comment
M.A.Khan ----- Actually history is a mixed bag of many things.Nothing can be painted in absolutely black and white,there are shades of grey and lighter hues;except ,perhaps the entire islamic/muslim history,the dark ages of Europe or the crusades,or the communism of PolPot,Mao,Stalin,Nazism,etc. Hahaha,All those occupy substantial portion of history from 7th century till date!You are right there, for my experience in dabbling in such matters is indeed limited and I am only expressing my views as a layman. The Indian leftists are the most hypocritical of all,they mouth socialism for others while their kith and kin live a lavish capitalists' lifestyle.They are doublespeaking ,fork-tongued scoundrels to say the least. You are right to say that the British have done a lot to the Hindus just as much as they exploited and swindled this country. But then which invader is a mahatma Budha coming to enlighten the poor masses? All invaders come for the loot and if we Indians are an incompetent and divided lot based on cast and language considerations there's no point in wailing over our misfortunes. But all the same the least malevolent of them all was the British indeed. The British laid the foundation for modern education,railways,civil administration,a disciplined professional army,infrastructure facilities,post and telegraph,railways,etc. I am one of those who consider that we got our true independence on 1857 and political independence in 1947!Otherwise we would have been in dark ages,maybe paying 'jizya' to several sultans and nawabs! Further it was the British who opened out the long forgotten classics,philosophies,science of hindus through their scholars and indologists like Sir Wiiliam Jones (the founder of Asiatic Society). We in India are now becoming more wary of Indian muslims after the Bangalore 's Kafeel Ahmed,et al. Even today in South India the interaction with the muslims is generally friendly ,free and no ill-will at all.But after Kafeel's case,people generally find it difficult to trust anyone. I think you are mistaken that I was inviting more muslims into India,I was only stating that in the event of Talibanization of Pakistan,we may find people from that country rushing into India creating problems of human misery that would surely be insurmountably catastrophic! All I have suggested is that the people of Pakistan should remember our common ancestors and common heritage of Indus-Saraswati civilization,Budha,Ashoka,etc. instead of only islam and highly intolerant and bigoted arabic culture , it would bring peace and prosperity to both the countries . I hope you got the drift what I was driving at!
Name: DH
Date: Tuesday September 18, 2007
Time: 07:31:14 -0700
Comment
Pakistan was bound to embark on inexorable slide from ostensibly "homeland for Muslims" to "Islamic State". It was inevitable given the nature of Islam. Jinnah was allegedly a well-meaning secularist who just wanted to protect "Muslim interests". I don't believe a word of it! What can "Muslim interests" EVER mean but to be "free" to live according to the "Laws of Allah" - which includes "freedom" to kill apostates - and force the rest of the world to do so at sword point? The idea that Jinnah did not understand this is just too absurd to contemplate!
Name: kafir/infidel
Date: Tuesday September 18, 2007
Time: 12:37:55 -0700
Comment
To all humanists,freedom,peace loving democrats with honesty,sincerity,pure conscience,truth,facts on their minds - those who wants to make this world a better place for all without bigotry,narrow minded,fascist theologies with persecuting& killing nonbelievers as their main objective (day to day operations)- please note the truth. PAkistan - from day 1 of ot's formation was founded from the evil,demonic,most wicked ,most profane,most savage idea,intention,deliberate plan based on discrimination of nonmuslims & destroy nonmuslims by establishing the most brutal/savage/barbaric/inhuman regime based on ISLAM /sharia. First of all - ISLAM ,since it's birth 1450 yrs back in Arabian desert has no history of kindness, compassion, equality, humaneness, human rights, universal humanistic values. Alla the concocted God of ISLAM (by MO )- borrowed from the so called pagan religions was/is/will be a revengeful, bloodthirsty God with Bigotry, discrimination, cruelty, negative ideology, intolerant, dogmatic (and against nonbelievers in perpetuity,against women,against children ).This is evident from Qurran ,hadis,Sira. ISLAM & higher noble human values are diametrically opposite of each other. It is simply not possible to have democracy,secularism,equality,equal laws to all people,equality of all religions,equality of women with ISLAM as rule ie - also in any ISLAMIC country. ... It is totally wrong to state or write that democracy existed or will be possible in any ISLAMICc ountry even for a fraction of time . Once they declare a country as ISLAMIC country officially - means that ISLAM rules with it's hegemony,discriminating,persecuting,destroying,plotting the end of nonbelievers of ISLAM. is there any constitution in any ISLAMIC country- (stating in words,deeds,law ) that all human beings are equal,all laws must be applied equally for all humans, as human beings, as equal citizens of that country ,must be treated equally as human beings , must all religions respect,treat other religions as equal partners ? ... The very basis of ISLAM is to destroy nonbelievers, discrimination, revenge, killing, persecution,divisive, separateness ..... Once - if a country is stated as an ISLAMIC country - by the nature of iSLAM & it's evil theology- it means ISLAM/Moslems must have upper hand,hegemony of ISLAM must prevail, nonbelievers do not have any rights, nonbelievers must live under the oppression,suppression,persecution by Moslems/ISLAMISTS. Becoz all this is stated in Qurran..... Note that christianity is much better in this respect - as the church & state are separate in western Govts, & that church has no role in Governance & also becoz bible never has stated that nonchristians must be killed, or discriminated, or persecuted officially. Under ISLAM-persecution ,killing, discrimination, inequality,fear, intolerance, revenge against nonbelievers is sanctioned ,ordained,instigated ,encouraged by Qurran/Alla/Mo . So the author of this article is 100% wrong to say that PAKI-SATAN could be democratic even under elected Govt & even for a short time . If this guy - TANVIR JAFRI _ is serious,sincere,honest,& have good conscience & wants to lead a life with morals,ethics,with goodness in his heart - he must immediately &forthwith fight the eradication OF ISLAM - as it is an evil cult. No democracy,secularism,equality,equality of all religions,equality of all people,equality of women,kindness,compassion is possible with ISLAM . This - he must know,understand . other wise if he thinks contrary- he is at liberty to explain to us & all humans - how is it is possible under ISLAM to have all equalities ,human rights,civil rights, linguistic rights,minority rights,openness, tolerance,liberty, freedom,peace, democracy , a govt which treats nonmuslims with dignity,respect, equality,rule of law . ISLAM is uniquely evil & totally unsuitable for the future of humanity to live in peace,prosperity,progress,equality . We will wait for the response from Tanvir Jafri . ... Our recommendation is that ISLAM/Qurran?Mo - must be flushed into the sewage as they are totally incompatible with noble,universal humanistic values,oneness of humanity,peace,liberty,freedom,democracy of our human civilization. ISLAM simply destroys human spirit & mind by enslavement. ISLAM is also slavery.
Name: kafir/infidel ( & Ex-communist ).
Date: Tuesday September 25, 2007
Time: 20:50:39 -0700
Comment
Without wasting anymore space,time & reiterating all the demonic ,primitive,evil,wicked,fascist,totalitarian,intolerant,dogmatic,hateful,violent tenets of ISLAM/Qurran, again - suffice to say that PAKISATAN Along with IRAN & the people must denounce,renounce ISLAM/Qurran - if they want to live as good ,honest,human beings with good conscience desiring welfare,wellbeing,peace,prosperity,progress, to all people , & if Moslems want to make this world a better place for all humanity with equality- let the PAKIS / Iranians revolt & establish secular,liberal,humanist freedom,peace loving democracy in each one of them - stating that all human beings are one,equal,same,with equal respect,equality of laws. ISLAM must be eradicated as it is most primitive,against freedom,peace,oneness,and also against equality.
Name: t-mastr
Date: Wednesday September 26, 2007
Time: 19:17:08 -0700
Comment
to infidel/kafir,looks like some one from pakitan has molested u when u were young,thats why u r so obsessed withn pakistan,n nofin to do really apart from writing long,booring meaningless paragraphs.my advice is take a rest n forget what PAKISTAN has done to u or your family,or 15million are waiting to c ya wherever u are!