Muslim Brothers of Indian Subcontinent: It's Time for Homecoming, Part 4a
16 Dec, 2008
Editor note: We are in favor of leaving religions altogether. However, this article is published here, because, a peaceful appeal to Muslims for their return to their roots, from which they were brutalized to accept Islam, deserves a place here and everywhere else.
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Part 5b
Muhammad: The Prophet of Islam
Whosoever has the slightest knowledge about the life of the
Prophet of Islam and that of its first four rightly guided caliphs,
knows it well that their day-to-day affair does not reflect a bright
and sublime image of Islam. Although the first caliph Abu
Bakr's death is mysterious, the later three pious caliphs—namely
Omar, Usman and Ali—died to the knives and
swords of assassins. Given that Islam's brightest stars had been
killed by Muslim assassins at its commencement, the religion of
Islam does not reflect a creed of love, compassion and peace; it
does not propagate ever-pure and -eternal message. On the contrary,
it is reflective of a creed of hate, intolerance, terror and
bloodshed. Many great thinkers have expressed the same view about
Islam; many of them even thought that the world would have been a
better place for human living, had the bloody message of the Koran
not been preached to humankind at all.
While commenting on Islam, the Nobel Laureate poet Rabindranath Thakur once said,
“When two or three different religions claim that only their own religions are true and all other religions are false and their religions are only ways to Heaven. Hence conflicts cannot be avoided. Thus, fundamentalism tries to abolish all other religions. This is called Bolshevism in religion. Only the path shown by the Hinduism can relieve the world from this meanness.” [Essay “Atma Parichay”].
Had Islam been a religion of peace and compassion, Rabindranath would never have commented like this. In another occasion, he said,
“There are two religions on the earth, which have distinct enmity against all other religions. These two are Christianity and Islam. They are not satisfied with just observing their own religions, but are determined to destroy all other religions. That’s why the only way to make peace with them is to embrace their religion.”
[Complete Works of Rabindranath, Viswabharati University, 1982, Vol. 24:375, translated from Bengali by the author]
He also said,
“The Muslims are united in religion and rituals. The Bengali Muslims, the South Indian Muslims and even the Muslims outside India – all are united. They always stand united in the face of danger. The broken and divided Hindus will not be able to combat them. Days are coming when the Hindus will be again humiliated by the Muslims.” [A letter to Hemantabala Sarkar, 16th Oct. 1933, quoted in Bengali weekly “Swastika”, June 21, 1999]
Rabindranath further observed,
“A very important factor which is making it almost impossible for Hindu-Muslim unity to become an accomplished fact is that the Muslim can not confine their patriotism to any one country. I had frankly asked the Muslims whether in the event of any Mohammedan power invading India, would they (Muslims) stand side by side with their Hindu neighbors to defend their common land or join the invaders. I was not satisfied with the reply I have obtained from them…Even such a man as Mr. Mohammed Ali (leaders of the Khilafat Movement in India) has declared that under no circumstances is it permissible for any Mohammedan, whatever be his country, to stand against any Mohammedan”. [Interview of Rabindranath, Times of India, 18 April 1924, in the column “Through Indian Eyes.”]
Undoubtedly, Rabindranath, while being truly secular, was also great patriot and an honest man; he, therefore, did not hesitate represent Islam in its true color. But many dishonest people in the pseudo-secularist Indian media and the monks of R K Mission are trying to sell a hyena as an innocent lamb; they try hard to hide the violent foundations and bloody history of Islam and project it as a great religion of love, compassion and humanity. Islam is such as poisonous snake that it will come back to bite these pseudo-secular pimps of Islam real hard; they, along with the entire Indian nation, will have to pay a heavy price for their treacherous, deceptive portrayal of Islam in due course of time.
It has been emphasized earlier that Islam has nothing that may be called spiritualism. In this context, it would be relevant to quote an observation of Bertrand Russell on Islam. He said,
“Among religions, Bolshevism is to be reckoned with Mohammedanism rather than with Christianity and Buddhism, Christianity and Buddhism are primarily personal religions, with mystical doctrines and a love of contemplation. Mohammedanism and Bolshevism are practical, social, unspiritual (doctrines), concerned to win the empire of this world.” [Practice and Theory of Bolshevism, Allen & Unwin, London, 1921, p-5].
A few months ago, a group of Bangladeshi ex-Muslims issued a statement telling, “Why they have deserted Islam”. The said declaration was, later on, aired by the British Broadcasting Corporation (or BBC).. In that statement they have also explained why they do not consider Muhammad a prophet. It reads,
“One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life.
He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations of the Koraiza Jews and enslaved their women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their “right hand possessions” (Quran 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way.”
The statement continues,
“Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.” [One may find this statement at http://www.apostatesofislam.com/].
It is really strange that, such a man is being fanatically revered by the Muslim community throughout the world.
At the age of 52, Muhammad migrated from Mecca and arrived at Medina on Monday, 28th June, 622 AD. At that time Muslim population at Medina was insignificant. But, within a few years, after the migration of his disciples and kin from Mecca and the new converts added to it, population of Muslims at Medina increased to a sizable extent. In addition to that, Muhammad became the chief administrator, chief of army, chief lawmaker and chief of judiciary of Medina; he became the "uncrowned king" of Medina. At this stage the idea of spreading Islam by sword came to his mind and he invented the doctrine of jihad (from Old Testament). So, he formed a gang of hooligans that started to oppress the non-Muslim native population of Medina, in the name of jihad, with the sole intention to convert them to Islam.
Muhammad’s Lust and Sexual Perversion
At that time, his first wife Khadija had died which provided him the great opportunity to marry other women. At first, he married an elderly widow called Sauda. Then, in the first Hijra, he married Ayesha, the daughter of his closest friend Abu Bakr, when Ayesha was a child of 6. Then onwards he started marrying women one after another. In 3rd AH, at the age of 56, he married Hafsa bint Omar and Zeinab bint Khozaima. Next year, he married Umme Salama, in the 5 AH. Then he married Zeinab bint Ash (the wife of his adopted son Zeid) and Zaeria bint Habis. In 7 AH, he married four wives namely Umme Habiba, Safia bint Hujaya, Maimuna bint Habis and Maria, the Coptic slave girl. In this way, he created a harem of 11 wives. The above narration reflects that Muhammad married 12 wives, but according to Shia scholars, Muhammad married 22 wives in his declining years. So, it becomes evident that the Bangladeshi apostates are right while they paint Muhammad as a lustful pervert, not a man of superior character. For that reason, they refuse to accept Muhammad as a messenger of God.
It should be mentioned here that Muhammad forbade remarriage of
his widows. In the present context, one may recall an episode of
Indian history. In 1659, when Afzal Khan organized a military
campaign against Raja Shivaji, he had 63 wives in his harem. Just
before launching the campaign, Afzal put all his 63 wives to sword
so that in case of his death his wives might not be enjoyed by
others. It is not difficult to comprehend that a similar psychology
led Muhammad to forbid remarriage of his widows.
In this context, it should also be mentioned that the mullah and maulavis keep ordinary Muslims in the dark about this aspect of Muhammad’s life. In several occasions, this author was surprised to discover that most of the Muslims even do not know that Muhammad, at the age of 52, married Ayesha when she was a child of 6, and at the age of 56, Muhammad married his daughter-in-law Zeinab, the wife of his adopted son Zeid.
To be continued
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Name: Every one here must try to enlighten atleast one muslim
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 07:46:37 -0500
Comment
Every one here must try to enlighten atleast one muslim. It can and should be done not just for their sake but for entire humanity. but average human can not live with out god as it gives him all emotional and psychological security that weak and average minds need. So buddhism may not be solution for all. Sikhism is better for them.
Name: NO RELIGION IS BETTER THAN ANY RELIGION
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 07:57:39 -0500
Comment
NO RELIGION IS BETTER THAN ANY RELIGION : we saw what happened in punjab due to sikh terrorism, killing of hi9ndus but sparing of muslims, so sikhism is also not 100% good, as it also leads to extremism. BEST IS NO RELIGION. RELIGION IS A DISEASE AND TRUTH IS THE ONLY CURE.
Name: EVEN I DID NOW KNOW MUHAMED RAPED 9 YR OLD AIESHA TILL I WAS 22-23 YRS OLD
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 08:01:43 -0500
Comment
Even i did now know muhamed raped 9 yr old aiesha till i was 22-23 yrs old,i started to read koran when i was 22-23 and till then i never knew any of the horrible sins muhamed did,and after reading koran i simply gave up islam in 1992-3.now i am free from religion and happy human being.just imagine yr shock when u come to know that some guy u r supposed to follow,married 6 yr old girl when he was over 51 and then had sex with her when she was 9...i actually remember that daqy i felt sick and almost cud not eat food,but finally after talking to some mullas in byculla masjid in mumbai they confirmed it. I asked them how do they consider this child rapeist as a model and they ahd no answer but to threaten me...i realsied the deep desire of mullas for imaginary wine and virgins is the root of the ignorance of the muslims.
Name: WHY MUSLIMS..
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 08:03:14 -0500
Comment
No all-cap postings... -- Editor
Name: mhw
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 10:02:02 -0500
Comment
I once asked a Muslim why, if Mohammud was beloved of Allah and given the many women he married, why did he not have any male child. The Muslim was like a deer caught in the headlights for a moment then recovered and launched into his "Islam is a religion of peace" audiotape.
Name: RE:NO RELIGION IS BETTER THAN ANY RELIGION
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 10:07:19 -0500
Comment
My dear friend tell me where it says in the Sikh scriptures that Sikhs are supposed to kill innocent victims. What happened in Punjab was not a result of Sikhism, but the result of constant neglect of the Sikh population of India. These very Sikhs had sacrificed their lives for their Hindu brothers. If it had not been for Sikhs, it is quite possible that not even one Hindu would have survived the Muslim onslaught on India. So its better than you start looking at things in perspective.
Name: Ilham Abdullah
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 10:54:23 -0500
Comment
In the long-view of history - Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler were petty criminals in comparison to Mohammed. ----- Though some of the leaders and their followers in the democratic west have made mistakes and behaved injustly, no ideology has done as much damage to the well-being of human-kind as islam has.
Name: Buddhism and Sikhism.
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 11:03:03 -0500
Comment
Someone wrote-So budhism may not be solution for all.Sikhism is better for them. My friend, actually like Buddhism, Sikhism too does not believe in a creator. Hinduism is the answer because here there are all school of thoughts. What is common to all these three religions is the doctrine of Karma which is central to their philosophy.
Name: sikh were never neglected its wrong to say this
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 11:16:01 -0500
Comment
sikh were never neglected its wrong to say this.yes politicians have neglected entire india, look at up,bihar etc....its neglected. sikh were never neglected like up, bihar. and even if u r neglected u can protest against it, why kill hindus who never did anything bad to sikh ??? if indira was the culprit they shud punished her, why kill innocent hindus ? i remember reading in newspapers how sikh used to drag out hindus from busses and shoot them, same as in kashmir. but k.p.s gill the true nationalist saved punjab. unfortunately tehre is no k.p.s. gill in kashmir, all this due to politicians. WE IN MUMBAI FEEL NEGLECTED BY DELHI,WE PAY OVE RS60000 CRORE RUPPES IN TAXES EVERY YEAR AND DELHI GETS RS40000 CRORES TO MAKE OVER THE CITY AND MUMBAI HAS BECOME A DUSTBIN,SO SHUD WE ALSO TAKE UP ARMS ?? no,the answer is democracy. so dont say sikh were neglected, bcoz even mumbai is neglected by congress-shiv-sena-bjp but we r fighting in democratic way, not taking guns into our hands.
Name: Reverse Brainwashing?
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 15:00:44 -0500
Comment
Let ´em listen to Oprah 24 hours a day. They will disappear like a candyman in the sun.
Name: continuum
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 18:36:25 -0500
Comment
"If it had not been for Sikhs, it is quite possible that not even one Hindu would have survived the Muslim onslaught on India. So its better than you start looking at things in perspective." Sikhs were hardly able to even maintain a kingdom of their own and they brag about saving entire India. Sikh gurus were forced to live like bandits by powerful islamic armies. Sikhs could hardly save Punjab and it is a wonder they speak as though they saved entire India. Please stop this bull shit. The truth is if it were not for the large number of Hindus in the country, Sikhs would have been wiped out like insects by Islamic armies long back. Islamic armies were busy dealing with Hindus, Sikhs etc. at the same time and on multiple fronts.
Name: seeker
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 20:19:02 -0500
Comment
Sikhism developed as a peaceful, reform sect of Hinduism. It turned into a martial religion in a very later course of its history under Guru Gobind Singh. This happened due to the persecution of Sikhs and Hindus under the Mughals and invaders. There was a tradition in those times that every Hindu household in Punjab had to have one member of the family as a Sikh. While the Sikhs and the Hindus have shared a very close history and heritage in Punjab it is wrong to say that the Sikhs saved all the Hindus in entire India. This is a very tall claim. Who said the Govt neglected the sikhs. Punjab is the richest state in India.
Name: Rashmi
Date: Tuesday December 16, 2008
Time: 23:21:30 -0500
Comment
Dear Mr radhe shyam, Regarding home coming of muslims i would like to say, first there is no conversion to hinduism. There are two religions which do not believe in proselytising one is sanatan Dharma (Greek gave the name to people living beyond river indus as indoos and later arabs called it as hindus slowly termed as hinduism, christians called us as pagans) and Judaism (jews). Further if they wish to even join their ancestral religion how many of us will accept them is a practical question. Knowing the hypocracy (which includes political and visual),intellectual bankruptcy and bigotry of present day hindus who themselves do not know what is hinduism and sanatan dharma i doubt this will happen. Though vedas and text written by enlightened seers i.e upanishads (which is commentary on treatise of vedas writers inludes manu, Veda vyas ji, valmiki, rishi kannad, maharishi dayanand saraswati etc.), presence of living yogis and there life depicts there is no sectarianism/casteism promoted by God it is only varnasharam as vedas advocate, we still practice jativaad.Our intellectual media which is fully secular still say dalit president etc. None of the media publicise that it is varnashram (division as per deeds is only to be accepted not by birth)and not casteism is against the ethics of indian scriptures.If they (politicians, media) propagate these truths they can not divide and rule and subjugate others which will not serve their interest. Further brahmins means who are learned of vedas (shabd brahmam) and further by the hard practice of astanga yoga have realised God in samadahi (para brahmam), only such enlightened souls who have experienced divinity in self are alone entitled to preach about God the vedas and upnishads say clearly else false Gurus will propogate self made paths of worship which will be dangerous to humanity. If we look around yourself that is happening.Very few Gurus today posses Knowledge of vedas and posses divine insight which comes with actual realisation. Our own hindu brother and sisters are now entangled in net of Dowry (which is against vedas) and all superstitions. Many of us still want sons thinking son can only liberate us whereas Vedas and seers talks of souls which is Gender less, it takes genders as per its deeds and the body in which it resides.Present day brahmins in some cases only think Girls can not learn vedas,Where as in vedas itself there are more than 30 rishis who happen to be ladies, the Guru of King Janak and sita ji was a women Bal brahmachari Gargi.There are many things which we as Hindus are suffering from, real yogis and spiritually enlightened souls who were foundations of this land and have guided us prefer to stay away from present society seeing the degenration in morals, ethics and everything.Then we have whole brigade of secularist leftist etc.Further about Sikhism Guru Nanak ji have kept vedas in high esteem in Gurugranth sahib he has said veda omkar niramaye (never say vedas are untruth), even he has said never say rama and krishna are false, he himself was the enlightened one, see he is called Guru not God.If you read every yogis biography they say we are humble servant of God whether it sai baba of shirdi/ramanna rishi etc.Valiant rajputs,Sikkhs and marathas only fought mugal invasion.Sikh were Guided by Guru Govind singh ji, Shivaji by his guru swami Ramdas (please note this).Hindus forgot the real message of Gita and veda, you should search God but same time should unite and fight the enemy(whether internal or external) only sanyasis are not allowed to take shastras as per vedas.Though Rishi Vashistha, Vedas vyas ji had all divine power but they never killed, on their behest Lord Rama and Krishna killed Rakshas (evil doers). So what to describe our own shortcomings lacked without unifying vision hindered by short sighted goals devoid of nationalism. I have read a Good article in Hinduism Today on dalit(this naming itself is wrong) hindus , this magzine is an eye opener.So when we invite our muslim brothers for home coming we should tell them what is your ancestral religion,what are its foundation who are the Gods and Goddess worshipped today etc. Infact one last thing i would say Devi and devta are sanskrit words which have vedic origin and meaning, it means follower of vedas who have realised God by practise of Astanga Yoga in samadhi.You will find all the names of devi and devtas in vedas becos sages used to keep names from vedas, but rarely today people will tell this truth as the business will stop.So we have to search God with in ourself, Righved says God reside in the heart of human being and explore vedas.Great scientist like carl sagan, einstein have said inspiring thing about our culture and scripture and unitedly we should fight our enemies both internal and external.Indian culture has its root in vedas, yoga and spiritualism stemming from it, but same time we should not forget our duties towards nation and socity.
Name: Spiritualism
Date: Wednesday December 17, 2008
Time: 00:16:47 -0500
Comment
There is one system emerging from southern India for worship through light in the heart, which is catching on. This system is followed through love for all and universal brotherhood.
Name: Dump all religions
Date: Wednesday December 17, 2008
Time: 01:04:22 -0500
Comment
Why do Muslims need to go from one quagmire to another? Let them be good people without a religion.
Name: Approach arya samaj and they will formally intiate Hinduism.
Date: Wednesday December 17, 2008
Time: 02:28:31 -0500
Comment
approach your nearest branch of arya Samaj and through the vedic chanting and some purification rituals they will take you into the fold of Hinduism. You will even be given a certificate to enter Hinduism.
Name: ISLAM A RELIGION WHERE : if u join they cut yr penis-circumcision...and if u leave it they cut your throat
Date: Wednesday December 17, 2008
Time: 04:53:12 -0500
Comment
ISLAM A RELIGION WHERE : if u join they cut yr penis-circumcision...and if u leave it they cut your throat, so in ether case if u join or leave and every-where inbetween there is only voilence and more voilence.al-ham-dull-illll-aaahhhhh
Name: what is better? [by kafir atheist zakir kaskar]
Date: Wednesday December 17, 2008
Time: 04:57:11 -0500
Comment
what is better any religion? why cant we live just as humans, in hinduism, there is 1 branch of though-NASTIK THOUGHT -atheist thinking WHICH SAYS THAT NATURE IS ALL THERE IS. this is developed by RISHI CHARAVAK.so karma, deeds and good humanity is more important and belief in truth=nature is most important. believe in anything its ok, but dont believe in hate based ideology of judeo-christianity-islam, which if not controlled will lead to nuke world war 3
Name: who ever writes or maintains it is defintely towards his end and hellfire is waiting for him deperately.
Date: Wednesday December 17, 2008
Time: 18:31:42 -0500
Comment
who ever writes or maintains it is defintely towards his end and hellfire is waiting for him deperately.
Name: To:"Whoever writes or maintains......."
Date: Thursday December 18, 2008
Time: 01:19:19 -0500
Comment
Brother, You are sending your own muslim brothers to torturous death or death burning in the name of jihad as happened to 9 terrorists and so many suicide bombers.How do you believe the non-sensical claim of one mad person about hell fire.
Name: hell fire for muslims virgins wine and sex 24x7 for kafirs
Date: Thursday December 18, 2008
Time: 01:22:32 -0500
Comment
as per bible truth shall set u free,as per koran truth shall stand out from error,as per ved truth alone shall triumph and truth shall give salvation-heaven.what is truth ? if bible/koran claim exclusivity and from a real god then they cant have even 1 mistake,bcoz even 1 mistake gramaticl,or scientific or logic means its man created.but bible/koran is full of scientific error.chapter 2-222 says women who menstruate r sick,but truth is they r ovulating natural cycle,koran in chapter2 says first imaginary allah created earth then turned to make the heavens,it means as per koran forst earth which is 4.5billion yrs old was created then universe which is 14 billion years old was created,there r many more errors.it proves that bible/koran is full of error.so anyone who believe in falsehood ie,jews christians,muslims r hell bound.but those who choose truth over judeo-christianity-islam will get liberated-get salvation and get wine and sexy virgins 24x7 in jannat.so kafirs will get jannat,muslims will burn in pig fat in janannam.
Name: vbv
Date: Thursday December 18, 2008
Time: 02:19:25 -0500
Comment
Islam flourished because of banditry, loot, rape, enslaving women and children while mercilessly butchering the male adults and even the adolescent males. Today a billion zombies are entrapped in this cult with death being the only way out.If people decide collectively in large numbers to come out of this barbaric arabian cult ,the death threat will not hold. The zealots and fanatical fringe will carry out bombing and gunning a la Mumbai style to intimidate the apostates, for they are just cowards. But the majority population ditches them they will go back to Taqiyya art of deception like Zakir Naik, et al. But people should stand up and call their bluffs, only then the death knell will be nailed on islam.
Name: saraswathipuram
Date: Thursday December 18, 2008
Time: 09:22:53 -0500
Comment
this should be downloaded and sent to all secular politicians like Mulla yadav, laloo etc.,
Name: Concerned
Date: Friday December 19, 2008
Time: 01:42:00 -0500
Comment
Many readers of this site have the tendencey to club Islam and Christianity together. Please understand that Christianity is not on the warpath in this modern world. It could have committed mistakes in the past. But it is not in the same league as Islam as far as human rights, freedom of opinion, feminine rights , democracy etc. are concerned. It is not a threat to the world. It is against the spirit of this website to spew venom against or shower encomiums on other religions. Kindly remember that we are all in this together to defeat Islam.
Name: The enemy of my enemy is my friend
Date: Friday December 19, 2008
Time: 02:57:25 -0500
Comment
The nemesis of Islam are the Jews, the Christians, and the West. Those fellows who pretend to attack Islam but at the same time attacked the Jews, the Christians , and West are really protege of Islamic Jihad out to sow confusion and division among the infidels.
Name: dd
Date: Friday December 19, 2008
Time: 22:18:19 -0500
Comment
"Please understand that Christianity is not on the warpath in this modern world." You should say that to the missionaries sowing discord in India, to the Fijians who as soon as a hindu was elected as president started persecuting hindus using the army. The only reason that Christianity is not like Islam these days is because it has broken up into numerous pieces each vying with the other for converts. Any monotheistic cult when mixed with conversion drive is dangerous to this world. Until the breakup of Christianity Europe was under a worse dark ages than what Islam is under now. So rethink about your religion and leave it if you can. No I am not a Hindu, though I was once.
Name: dd
Date: Friday December 19, 2008
Time: 22:26:36 -0500
Comment
I give the same advice to Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari, though Hinduism is harmless, it doesn't make any sense to fool yourself with imaginary ideas like gods etc. It is better to rely on reason, observation, experimentation, verification, science rather than fantasies. So rethink about Hinduism and leave it if you can.
Name: dd
Date: Friday December 19, 2008
Time: 22:33:54 -0500
Comment
If you can't leave Hinduism at least BURN the vedas, read how disgusting it is: http://islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/women_in_hinduism.htm. All the verses check out to verify use http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/index.htm. All these books are best kept in a museum and forgotten.
Name: dd
Date: Friday December 19, 2008
Time: 22:55:35 -0500
Comment
Thats not to say ALL of Hinduism is bad. Parts like Yoga, Buddhism, Ayurveda etc are good and can be retained and followed. I am doubtful about Hindu Astrology though, my science background balks at believing it but I have seen it predict many things unerringly so I reluctantly admire it, though I can find no reason in it.
Name: re dd
Date: Saturday December 20, 2008
Time: 03:46:27 -0500
Comment
First you say Hinduism is harmless. Then you say burn the vedas. Hinduism is tolerant because of the vedas. Understand this. The Geeta is the core of the vedic philosophy. It is hard being an athiest. Ask MA Khan. Please read the debate between athiest Sherman and spiritual guru Deepak Chopra if you can. Dont comment on things you dont know. Its not trendy to call yourself an athiest.
Name: To dd
Date: Saturday December 20, 2008
Time: 07:25:33 -0500
Comment
Please be aware that Jesus Himself said to be on guard against false teachers using His name out to deceive the unwary. To discern which is which, use this analogy, the tree is known by its fruits.
Name: dd
Date: Saturday December 20, 2008
Time: 11:38:44 -0500
Comment
"Hinduism is tolerant because of the vedas." This just shows that you have not read the vedas, which is mind numbingly boring to read go and read it now. Hinduism is tolerant because it is polytheistic not because it has the vedas. Dont comment on things you have not read. "The Geeta is the core of the vedic philosophy." This shows you have not read the Geeta either. Geeta expounds killing your kith and kin is ok. I am a pure vegetarian and abhor killing anyone let alone my family. So I pass you can keep this shit book. Though I like the Gist of geeta that "what ever happened, happened well" stuff, you know what I read the geeta from top to bottom and I could not find it anywhere inside the gita, it must have been tacked on by some later sage who thought that the gist of geeta was that. "It is hard being an athiest." Its not hard at all if you make a firm resolve to make ONLY reason and logic be your guide. I am pro-Hindu if you keep arguing for Hinduism I am likely to turn against. "Please be aware that Jesus Himself said to be on guard against false teachers using His name out to deceive the unwary. To discern which is which, use this analogy, the tree is known by its fruits." Then you should be on guard against the bible because it was not written by Jesus. Take the bible and turn to the book of Jesus, what! you cant find it?
Name: To dd
Date: Saturday December 20, 2008
Time: 12:12:28 -0500
Comment
Jesus did not come to this world to establish a new religion. He came so that mankind will know God's love. God's law states that the wages of sin is death and the death of Jesus bought for all mankind the opportunity of eternal life. Jesus resurrected from the dead as witnessed by the apostles. His ascension unto heaven was again witnessed by the apostles and He commanded to spread the Good News to all nations, the coming world government with Jesus ruling over mankind in His second coming in the midst of a nuclear war, Matthew 24:22, " And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." Before the advent of nuclear weapons, no human mind could have conceived the idea of a war that could erase all humanity on the face of the earth in 1st A.D.
Name: dd
Date: Saturday December 20, 2008
Time: 21:27:01 -0500
Comment
"Before the advent of nuclear weapons, no human mind could have conceived the idea of a war that could erase all humanity on the face of the earth in 1st A.D." If you look at hindu scriptures they talk of a weapon called Bhrama astra that can destroy all life on earth, and of Bhrama's days and years and centuries which is trillions of earth years long after which the entire creation is destroyed and recreated. Now before the advent of nuclear weapons no human mind could have conceived the idea of entire cities being destroyed let alone the entire universe being destroyed and recreated. Now do you accept that hinduism is the true path? Just because a few paranoid people can fantasize the destruction of everything doesn't mean that what they say is true. "Jesus did not come to this world to establish a new religion" Every prophet has to say this in order to grant eternal status to his cult only then he can steal the followers of previous prophets. "Jesus resurrected from the dead as witnessed by the apostles. His ascension unto heaven was again witnessed by the apostles and He commanded to spread the Good News to all nations" You should really take a course in logic and bull shit detection. This drivel is no different from what is found in the quran. If I tell you that my mother got resurrected after she died and she ascended into heaven and it was witnessed by my friends and I get them to swear about it and therefore I and my friends are apostles so you should follow us, you will immediately KNOW that I am bullshitting you but just because you have been brought up into Christianity or brain washed into it you are not able to tell bullshit from sound logical reasoning.
Name: dd
Date: Saturday December 20, 2008
Time: 21:43:53 -0500
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"Every prophet has to say this in order to grant eternal status to his cult only then he can steal the followers of previous prophets." The interesting thing is, fraudster mohammed went a step further and added a clause stating that he was the last prophet so that future fraudsters will not steal from his cult while he could steal all he wanted from previous fraudsters.
Name: To dd
Date: Saturday December 20, 2008
Time: 22:02:52 -0500
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You have your own set of beliefs. As long as you don't harm people because of your belief that is fine with humanity. As for faith in God this is what I say, for those who believe no explanation is necessary, for those who don't believe no explanation is possible.